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How hard is it to poison a kid, kids eat any shit

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link

I was fine with the dead guy adjusting his tie too

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:16 (eight years ago) link

yeah i mean for a show that was about storytelling rather than "realism" they still never stooped as low as brother mouzone.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link

Ha I have high threshold for the cartoonish but that was corny as hell, yeah. Again I think they sold it tho

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:22 (eight years ago) link

I like to imagine that Walt just stridently approached Brock in broad daylight at like the playground or something and was like, "here, kid, eat these" and Brock was like "okay".

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:23 (eight years ago) link

yeah.

"hello brock, would you like to eat these berries?"

"yes."

some people have no imagination.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link

I think the only reason people are hung up on this is because we didn't see it. If they'd shown Walt slipping him the poison in whatever absolutely ridiculous scenario, they'd accept it the same way they did a 50 year old with lung cancer digging a huge money hole in the desert or whatever

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link

Or like he's just sitting there on a park bench when he knows Brock will be walking past and he's miming eating the berries and rubbing his tummy and is like "MMMMM, oh man, these are the best berries I've ever eaten." And Brock is naturally curious and is like, "hey, mister, can I have some of those berries?" And Walt's all coy, like, "I dunno, these are some pretty good berries, you might be too young to fully savor their deliciousness." But Brock is like totally hooked in now and he's like "pleeeeeease can I have some of your delicious berries?" It's the kind of scene you could have a lot of fun with, maybe play some jaunty music in the background, you know.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link

Feel like he enlisted one of those meth gang bike kids

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

shit you must have spent a while writing that, i can visualise it in my mind xpost

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

The most likely scenario is that he used his scientific knowledge to develop a sort of berry catapult or gun so that he could launch berries into Brock's laughing mouth from afar while Saul was telling him jokes.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm sending my writing packet in to Gilligan this afternoon, btw.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:00 (eight years ago) link

that makes sense. i had imagined he posed as the school nurse for berry suppository day, but i hadn't really thought it through and in some ways your idea is more plausible.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

though not sure how he would have managed to fire the suppositories such that they were taken.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link

Ooh, berry suppository day is a good angle. Walt's goatee might be an impediment to posing as the nurse but I imagine he could employ a method similar to that used when Richard Pryor posed as a maid in The Toy. Yeah, this is really coming together.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

it would explain brock's reaction to seeing walt again. a mix of "i know this man from somewhere" and "this is an unpleasant man"

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link

do we know there wasn't enough time for walt to have set up an organic jam food truck?

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

quality work here guys

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link

I'm going to be so sad next week when this season is done.

Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

i got pretty tense watching that. not a feeling i usually get w this show. good stuff

Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Mike and Good Samaritan, Jimmy and Chuck---maybe. Whether Chuck checks out or not (brain damage?), think Kim might break with Jimmy because of all this.

dow, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

Anyway, pursuing a case against Jimmy (DNA samples?) wouldn't be wise, in terms of all the weird Chuck ways Jimmy has unavoidably observed while caring for his poor big brother (things which could be corroborated by Ernie and others) But Jimmy---goaded by Kim, if understandably so---panicked, and helped bring on this melt-down and accident.

dow, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

The bit with the hearing, knowing the mistake was coming to light, probably made me as uncomfortable as this show/BB ever has

kinder, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

when he told her she was "muddying the waters" haha

Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

nearly 15 minutes before there was a scene with Jimmy!

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

Despite the undeniable dramatic highpoints, let us not forget Jimmy and the flag, which cracked my ass up.

a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die

jane was a decent person. chuck is an asshole.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Kim was pretty spot-on when she fake dressed him down. Karmically speaking, he kinda asked to get Slippin' Jimmied (his injury aside).

a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:49 (eight years ago) link

It's a stretch to say Chuck never supported Jimmy when Chuck got Jimmy the mailroom job at HHM

JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link

love the small moment where mike asks if it ever snows in albuquerque

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link

xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.

a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link

And the waitress telling mike he can shovel her driveway

calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:43 (eight years ago) link

the van driver saw mike's car clearly. So mike was the one who had a senior moment, not chuck

calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:45 (eight years ago) link

I wish the show didn't show us the forgery. would have put us in Kim's shoes

calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link

That was some old beater, not Mike's regular ride.
xp

Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think his regular ride is a brown old beater.

a spate of non-fatal hammer attacks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:02 (eight years ago) link

xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.
― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm repeating myself now, but as underhanded as that was--particularly when Jimmy was the one taking care of him--Chuck had every reason to think that Jimmy would be dangerous as a lawyer. And we know, from the events of this series and BB, that he was right. (And, although he stood in the way of Jimmy's being hired as a lawyer at HHM, he never stood in the way of his solo practice.)

Of course, we can (and should!) speculate about how things might have turned out differently had Chuck been completely supportive. But I don't think he's an asshole for being reluctant to get fully behind his career con-artist, family-business-bankrupting* brother's fledgling law career.

*supposing this is true

JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link

Mike was smart and had a different car parked there, yeah

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

My favorite part of this episode was Kim immediately concluding that Chuck was right about Jimmy forging the documents. I really didn't see that coming, but it makes sense: she knows Chuck too well to think he'd make that kind of mistake, and Jimmy too well to put that kind of determined, meticulous, fraudulent sabotage (on her behalf) past him. And there's something sweet about the fact that with her, as far as we know, Jimmy never even tries to deny it. (And she stays with him!)

Reading the AV Club review of this episode got me thinking: what was the point of that scene of Mike buying a round for the house at the bar? Will that come back to bite him in some way?

JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:23 (eight years ago) link

He still has a soft heart in there for humanity. He's pretty much all for his granddaughter by BB.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:36 (eight years ago) link

xpost I was thinking while watching how much I appreciated that most of the main characters are so mentally nimble. It's such a marked change from so many other shows that depend upon abject stupidity to prolong dramatic tension.

We haven't seen Mike's endgame yet. Lots of as-yet-unanswered questions re: his motives and actions against Salamanca.

a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:38 (eight years ago) link

Two things I've learned about Rhea Seehorn (Kim W.) tonight:

1. She has an inordinately charming Twitter account.
2. Her first name is pronounced "ray"!

JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 03:08 (eight years ago) link

I keep thinking how Jimmy doctoring the docs is the BCS equivalent of WW blowing up Tuco's office. Same thing of using what they're good at to fuck shit up but in Saul's world it's not a cool guy explosion but a tiny detail that derails some paperwork, which of course he's good at because he used to make fake IDs in high school.

orifex, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 05:01 (eight years ago) link

Chuck is kind of a smug dick but I don't think he's been totally unreasonable in what he's done. I really don't know the whys and ethics etc of who should have mesa verde though so can't tell if HHM were underhand or acting totally normally to try and get/keep them.

Interesting that through all his grievances with Chuck, Jimmy hasn't thrown his dubious illness in his face

kinder, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 08:28 (eight years ago) link

Orifex otm

kinder, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 08:28 (eight years ago) link

KIm brought in the Mesa Verde account because of personal connections she had with one of the heads of staff there. She was at school or college with the brunette or something wasn't she.
I think she had brought in the firm to try to get her advanced from the backwater role she'd been demoted to. & wasn't very happy that she hadn't been put on the account she had brought in. Am I remembering that right?

So since she had the personal connection which is how she had brought in the account originally the account going with her would probably be more natural except for the reasons that Chuck had brought up. That is the new law firm might just be a little small to give the large account the attention it needed, Chuck should be able to ensure taht several people were wroking on it at any one time.
But has Kim decided that she is going to be spending all of her time on the account, which would mean trying to run a small law firm wouldn't really be remunerative realistically would it? Not quite getting that bit since the new law firm isn't actually running yet.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link

Part of Kim's pitch was that Mesa Verda - which she researched and wooed and brought to HHM, only to get coldly kicked to the curb by Howard - would be her sole client, and that she would dedicate all her time strictly to them.

Chuck's involvement is where if not ethics then morality gets involved. Howard was prepared to let Mesa Verde go, and let Kim have it, but Chuck's vindictiveness would not let him leave it at that. He risked his health not really to get Mesa Verde but to get it away from his brother, which Jimmy recognized. So was Chuck within his rights to get Mesa Verde back? Yes. But Jimmy was also right that it was about more than that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/petergould/status/716331573197451264

ulysses, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link


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