Yeah, that was cool.New album, btw, is increasingly crazy and weird and original. Not what I expected.
New album, btw, is increasingly crazy and weird and original. Not what I expected.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 16 April 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
New album is his best in years and years I think.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 18 April 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link
Oh, I agree. It's the first thing he's done in decades that approaches a new form, at least at times. It's like he finally applied all his generative ambient programs to singing. Even the way it's sequenced is strange and wonderful. I hope there is more where this came from.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 03:02 (eight years ago) link
where are you hearing it? I saw the preview of the one song but don't see the album up on spotify or apple music.
― dan selzer, Monday, 18 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link
only "the ship" is available on spotify but it's awesome
― Karl Malone, Monday, 18 April 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link
Xpost it leaked a couple of weeks ago
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 18 April 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's a wonderful record. I like both the eno/hyde albums as well. feels a bit like a rebirth for him
― akm, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Reading the interviews with him acknowledging that his voice has changed as he's gotten older, combined with this being a rare foray into vocals at all (in any form), plus Bowie dying (a few years down from Lou Reed) and the album ending with a version of "I'm Set Free" (that he recorded 12 years ago), gives the whole album a ghostly vibe, especially the haunting track with the generative voice (speaking with a Flemish accent, which is the accent of his mother) delivering the random word scramble lyrics like a robot reading poetry.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
Ignore the Kanye bait and focus on the other stuff in Whiney's interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/brian-eno-on-kanye-west-david-bowie-and-his-immersive-lp-the-ship-20160414
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link
got to give the people what they want
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
there's a good idea for a piece in the history of incrementally revised / remixed software-esque editions of the 'same' album, there is absolutely no need for anyone with a mind to credit Kanye with that kind of innovation in an Eno interview. John Coltrane's 'Ascension', Grateful Dead 'Anthem of the Sun', 'Music For Films', Ground Zero's 'Revolutionary Pekinese Opera v1.28'
looking forward to the new album
― Milton Parker, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
yes, why didn't i mention ground zero's revolutionary pekinese opera v1.28 instead of the most famous contemporary pop musician on the planet in a rolling stone article, what a fucking bonehead move that was!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
ha! that is of course not what I was suggesting of course
I totally get why Kanye's name is creeping into interviews with avant musicians, especially in this case where it's one who's been doing this for decades
good interview btw
― Milton Parker, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link
thanks, MP! :D
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it's a good one. Eno is easy to talk to. Very engaged.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
It's lovely, one of Lou's best songs.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link
Eno has amassed an awful lot of cultural credibility and "I'm Set Free" is a nice song, and the line "I'm set free to find a new illusion" is vaguely profound, but this is about as exciting as Jad Fair doing a Shaggs cover or whatever. So Eno won't sing for like a billion years, and then he decides that VU karaoke is the best way to channel his talents?
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link
I thought he recorded it 12 years ago?
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link
Sorry, one billion - 12 years.
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link
That's better.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:25 (eight years ago) link
So Eno won't sing for like a billion years, and then he decides that VU karaoke is the best way to channel his talents?i know what you're saying, but still -- this cover is really nice.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
i thought there were vocals all over the album. he can't throw in a cover of a song from his favorite album?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link
I've been listening to covers of "I'm Set Free" and am pretty sure that none of them are bad. Like, if you can't successfully cover I'm Set Free there should be an agency that takes away your hands and vocal chords, because you aren't qualified to perform music. Failure to adequately perform I'm Set Free is up there with inability to sing Happy Birthday.
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:50 (eight years ago) link
So?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link
I've never heard a cover of "I'm Set Free" tbh.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link
only other one i can think of off hand is yo la tengo's ... which is also good! it's a great song, true.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link
I mean, I'm not saying I don't like the Eno version. Don't want to be Scrooge about a perfectly decent song...
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
There is singing all over the new album almost in the most literal sense, but rarely conventional singing a la "I'm Set Free," which was indeed recorded eons ago.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9IL_bOwjZU
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
I mean, anyone who wants to argue that Eno's version is better than the above is welcome to have a go.
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link
what if i told you that i know of a song (not I'm Set Free) that is even better than that children's chorus video? that would obliterate the quality of their singing right? THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE GOOD SONG
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link
we're moving toward a world where there is only one good song. the good song prompts millions of cover versions, all of which vie to be the only good song. but every once in a while a new, different good song appears and disrupts the entire asymptotic system. the maps are redrawn and the old good song is thrown back into the gigantic heap of mediocrity that provides balance and order
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
It used to be Hallelujah.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link
if lou has a "hallelujah" it's "perfect day."
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link
anyhoo, checking out the ship finally, and yessss this is great.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link
the one good song is still L'Homme Arme, fuck all these tryhard comelatelys.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link
Nah, it's Everywhere With Helicopter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igvtCo4KoIg
― dlp9001, Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
Actually, fuck Brian Eno. I'm off to buy the new Shine Children's Chorus album.
just finished this one and yeah, I've never quite heard anything like this. it's really good.
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 April 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 22 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
eno stopped not singing in like 1990, this is his third vocal album in 3 years
― Erse Máire Paddy (wins), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/artist/634-Brian-Eno?sort=year%2Cdesc&limit=25&filter_anv=0&subtype=Vocals&type=Credits
can't believe a guy who sings all the time recorded a cover
― Erse Máire Paddy (wins), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link
RIght, doesn't he sing in a church choir?
― PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link
Context from the RS interview:
I went to see a performance by Hofesh Shechter, the Israeli choreographer. And it was an amazing, amazing piece of frantic choreographic activity. And then suddenly, at the end, it all stopped, and a Joni Mitchell song, "Both Sides Now," but the orchestral version, started up. And it was such an incredible mood shock, to go from that franticness of the dancing to this amazing-sounding huge orchestra and smoky, big warm sound. So I remembered that. I thought, “What a great idea, to just have a change of that kind into that sort of warmth.” And I think the reason I loved that song was because of the, well I think it's a beautiful song musically, but the key line is, "I'm set free to find a new illusion." And that's what I really like. The idea that you don't go from illusion to reality, but you go from one illusion to another one, or one story to another one. That seemed to me to be a nice way to seal that record.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 April 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link
bonus context:
“The first time I ever heard [The Velvet Underground] was on a John Peel radio show… it was when their first album came out and I thought “This I like! This I want to know about!”. I was having a huge crisis at the time. Am I going to be a painter or am I somehow going to get into music. And I couldn’t play anything so music was the less obvious choice. Then, when I heard The Velvet Underground I thought, “you can do both actually”. It was a big moment for me.“That particular song always resonated with me but it took about 25 years before I thought about the lyrics. “I’m set free, to find a new illusion”. Wow. That’s saying we don’t go from an illusion to reality (the western idea of “Finding The Truth”) but rather we go from one workable solution to another more workable solution.Subsequently I think we aren’t able and actually don’t particularly care about the truth, whatever that might be. What we care about is having intellectual tools and inventions that work. [Yuval Noah Harari in his book “Sapiens”] discusses that what makes large-scale human societies capable of cohering and co-operating is the stories they share together. Democracy is a story, religion is a story, money is a story. This chimed well with “I’m set free to find a new illusion”. It seems to me what we don’t need now is people that come out waving their hands and claiming they know the Right Way.”
“That particular song always resonated with me but it took about 25 years before I thought about the lyrics. “I’m set free, to find a new illusion”. Wow. That’s saying we don’t go from an illusion to reality (the western idea of “Finding The Truth”) but rather we go from one workable solution to another more workable solution.
Subsequently I think we aren’t able and actually don’t particularly care about the truth, whatever that might be. What we care about is having intellectual tools and inventions that work. [Yuval Noah Harari in his book “Sapiens”] discusses that what makes large-scale human societies capable of cohering and co-operating is the stories they share together. Democracy is a story, religion is a story, money is a story. This chimed well with “I’m set free to find a new illusion”. It seems to me what we don’t need now is people that come out waving their hands and claiming they know the Right Way.”
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
it's kinda corny but 'the big ship' sounds really good as a coda to 'the ship'
the last five minutes of 'the ship' is amazing
laughter. wave.
but what kind of wave* head explodes*
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 April 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link
'The big ship' is a particular track that makes me heart swell fit to bursting it's so fuckin beautiful.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 24 April 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
ya i'm p certain the big ship is my favorite song ever. i want it played at my funeral
― dynamicinterface, Sunday, 24 April 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link
i want it played at my funeralBeen telling my wife this for years.
― Jazzbo, Monday, 25 April 2016 11:32 (eight years ago) link