same here! comcast. fuckers. must have been some issue
― akm, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link
i figure mike's plot is supposed to feel a bit death wish, he has the skills and the icy exterior but isn't quite yet the hyperrational and calculating crime guy he becomes.
hope jimmy gets him to snipe that utter bastard chuck
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Jimmmy was the favored son and how unfair that was in light of Chuck trying so hard to do everything right and Jimmy being the fuckup that he is. No one should give Jimmy a shot because it's unfair that someone who refuses to follow the rules should be at all favored. It's just not fair!
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L-R: Chuck, Everyone in the world but especially their parents, Jimmy
― Plasmon, Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link
The tape recorder was a little like the end of every episode of diagnosis murder, where dick van dyke tricks the murderer into confessing and then barry van dyke comes out from behind a thing (he's been hiding behind a thing the whole time)
― ulysses, Thursday, 21 April 2016 01:19 (eight years ago) link
Chuck's swoon looked like typical syncope (fainting), not a stroke or a seizure. He hit his head hard enough to get a concussion but that's unlikely to be fatal. The forces involved weren't enough to produce a skull fracture and epidural hematoma, or even a contusion / subdural hematoma.
Harder to sort out the neurological status in Chuck's case because even without a specific brain injury, he can be very drowsy / encephalopathic just from his usual (psychological) hypersensitivity to EMR. Would be no surprise if he doesn't wake up for awhile even if the scans and other testing are OK. But he should recover.
― Plasmon, 15. huhtikuuta 2016 17:57
I thought was kinda funny that this is pretty much exactly what happened, the doctor even used the word syncope. I guess we should always trust the specialist in the house.
On a more general level, I really like how this show puts so much attention to detail and avoids a lot of the accepted movie/TV cliches, which having Chuck die from hitting his head would've been. Or how they showed Mike calibrating the sniper rifle like it should be done, instead of just taking it from the case and starting to shoot right away, which is how it typically happens in audiovisual fiction. There are still some absurd things happening in the show, but they result from human behaviour, the technical details are almost always correct.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:54 (eight years ago) link
Xp ha I think I did see that but forgot about it
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link
in some ways what BCS is about at heart (and you can say the same thing about Breaking Bad) is the nature of premeditation. They really like you to see the unseen.
― ulysses, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link
I did roll my eyes a bit when the doctor suggested they needed a CT because Chuck might have had a stroke -- strokes rarely cause loss of consciousness at onset, and when they do, the patient doesn't wake up a minute later. Also they could've cleared his C-spine clinically since he was awake and lucid by that point, the scan isn't really needed if he isn't having neck pain, especially given such a low impact injury.
But it's fair to say that the scans are standard practice in cases like that, and Jimmy is completely reasonable in feeling there'd be a risk of forgoing them.
The ER trauma bay scene was very realistic, I wonder if they used real medical staff for the dialogue, or at least to write it.
The show's also done a great job of handling Chuck's psychological condition, showing the suffering is very real even if there's not anglicized reason for it. His ability to rise above his symptoms at least temporarily when he really needs to is a common feature of similar cases I've seen. I often say as a neurologist that it's the patient's best performance (for Chuck, something like the meeting where he helped retain Mesa Verde) that points to their underlying neurological diagnosis (in Chuck's case, he's normal), even though patients tend to define their conditions (understandably) by their worst moments and the prolonged or recurring nature of their suffering.
― Plasmon, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
* a tanglible, not "anglicized" -- thanks spellcheck
― Plasmon, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
Plasmon I always appreciate yr expert input on this kind of thing!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Yes, you deserve a medical consultant credit for sure.
― Fat Idiot (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link
Plasmon, you should listen to the BCS podcast (ep 210) where Gilligan and his co-writer for this episode talk at length about their Medical consultant's advice both during writing and on set. Interesting stuff.
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link
btw i know nothing about medicine and the whole stroke suggestion made me roll my eyes too.
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link
Or how they showed Mike calibrating the sniper rifle like it should be done, instead of just taking it from the case and starting to shoot right away, which is how it typically happens in audiovisual fiction. There are still some absurd things happening in the show, but they result from human behaviour, the technical details are almost always correct.
― Tuomas, Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:54 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fun fact: All the through the scope shots were actually filmed through the actual rifle scope. no long lenses. no effects.
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
I was just thinking earlier that a real bare bones, TV Guide-esque summary of this season could easily make BCS sound like the most boring show on earth. "Jimmy makes a commercial. Mike watches people from afar and almost kills some people but doesn't actually kill anyone. Chuck has an episode after he mistakenly believes that he made a clerical error."
― Trash Sandwich (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
much as i enjoy the show's methodical pace and personal intrigue etc i did feel this was somewhat lacking and a little abrupt as a finale :/
― r|t|c, Friday, 22 April 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
xp "Jimmy Makes some photocopies"
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 22 April 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link
that's basically how Mad Men episode summaries used to read. "Don takes a trip. Roger has a problem at the office."
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link
Chuck's gonna be flatlined and it's going to fall to his next of kin to pull the plug.― Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Friday, April 15, 2016 9:11 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkChuck would def have wanted the plug pulled tbf― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, April 15, 2016 9:14 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Friday, April 15, 2016 9:11 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Chuck would def have wanted the plug pulled tbf
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, April 15, 2016 9:14 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link
But on this show, coulda gone any number of ways.
― dow, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
I thought this was a great episode.
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
I keep trying to predict developments as if I were still watching Breaking Bad. I was very good at forecasting the long game with BB, not so much with BCS.
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link
I thought the first episode was pretty good. I'm going to give it eight out of ten
― paolo, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going to say that this is a nine out of ten show. Not quite as good as the holy trinity of The Wire, Breaking Bad and The Sopranos but not far off
― paolo, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 08:23 (eight years ago) link
Lols weren't from the prediction but the electricity joke xps
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link
Be interesting to see what Chuck does with that tape, since we know Jimmy doesn't get disbarred/convicted
Do we know he doesn't get disbarred?
In BB, he's practising as Saul Goodman so perhaps this is the start of his journey down that road.
― groovypanda, Friday, 17 June 2016 08:20 (seven years ago) link
passing the bar under a fake name seems like it would be p difficult but idk
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 June 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
especially living in the same town where he's already had his face on billboards and tv ads
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 17 June 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
Spoiler depending on how sensitive you are...........Did anyone else see the christiantimes.com article naming 3 BB regs appearing in S3??
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link
No, and no thank you! One is fairly obvious. If you follow the threads on the obvious one, I can think of maybe one or two regular supporting characters that would make sense. I'm certain that Flynn is one of the three, though.
― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link
Clearly Holly.
― chap, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link
if we're throwing out guesses the most obvious one is Gus, other two could be just about anybody at this point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link
lol "Flynn" I forgot about that
― O, Barack: flaws (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
The beloved fan favorite Tyrus will return, obvs, if Gilligan & Co. have any sense.
It seems at least possible that Hank will show up eventually. That's probably the most likely path to a possible Walt cameo, however inconsequential and unconnected to the larger narrative of the show it would be.
― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link
Ugh I don't want that
I'm thinking ppl related to gus's operation plus maybe saul's receptionist and huell
― O, Barack: flaws (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link
I don't want that, either, but I'm accepting that it'll probably happen. I just hope it happens in a way that makes sense and compromises the integrity of the narrative as little as possible. These guys and gals can handle it.
― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I'm crossing my fingers for Huell.
― chap, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
I don't really see any reason for Walt to show up in this but who knows
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link
at this point I def trust the showrunners not to do some clumsy shoehorning fan service bullshit tho
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
They've at least hinted at possible cameos from Walt and Jesse. I'm sure that, when and if it happens, it won't be much more than a quick winking nod. Like in half focus walking through the background at the grocery store or something.
― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
Hank is a definite possibility. Maybe Gale, too. He was involved with Gus before the events of BB, no?
― JRN, Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
I'm certain that Flynn is one of the three, though.
― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:59 AM (4 hours ago)
can't tell if serious
― k3vin k., Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
such a useless character
it's pretty amazing how much better the characters are in BCS than BB btw, gus notwithstanding
Maybe Gale, too. He was involved with Gus before the events of BB, no?
my memory is that Gale is Gus's original cook so yeah I thought he might be a possibility too
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
xpost I'm totally serious. We never got to see the oft-alluded to story of Flynn's summer job as an intern in Saul's office.
― some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
Or the time that Flynn accidentally bumped into Tuco at the mall.
― some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
Lol Flynn!
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
Taste the family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrFLOu71Ip8
― nashwan, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link
yessss
i have been craving the return of BCS
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link
I was just thinking about BCS earlier!
― kinder, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link