big moves, bad dialogue, felt forced
― ulysses, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
When he was in a cell being held by the Starks.
― dan selzer, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
Alton Lannister. Jaime killed him to get out of his captivity in season 2.
A funny mention, since there definitely is a bunch of kin-slaying going on this season.
― Frederik B, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link
I kinda like watching this show again after it caught up to the books. It's pretty clear that George RR Martin is much more concerned with the rules of his word than the Benioff and Weiss. Which is okay, of course, but I do scratch my head a bit if Ramsay Bolton can get away with killing his father, brother and (step)mother, without his men rebelling.
― Frederik B, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link
But I still liked the episode more than I liked the last few I watched.
― Frederik B, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
So Melisandre was able to reanimate Jon because she had lost her faith, right? There was something in that Brotherhood w/o Banners storyline about how a priest lost his faith and then somehow woke the dead iirc
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
i think she was able to reanimate jon because kit harrington is pretty popular
― ulysses, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link
Yeah. I'm not sure if they intended any sort of connection between corpse-revival-powers and loss-of-faith. I'm assuming a coincidence unless they reiterate it somehow. For instance, the Brothers priest guy was still able to revive their guy even after his faith was restored the first time it worked.
― Evan, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
I don't think the power gets revoked if your returns
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
Thoros then confesses how he had always had a large lack of faith in the Lord of Light and never took his duties seriously because of them, until the day that Gregor Clegane killed Beric, his friend, and Thoros was called upon him to revive him. When he saw that it worked, Thoros's faith was restored.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
So you're saying there's a trial membership to get you hooked?
― Evan, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link
i was thinking there would be some focus on "king's blood" as being special and as a foreshadowing of future revelations but other than showing her sponging him down for a weird amount of time that didnt happen.
― ryan, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link
Yeah it would have been a little stronger if the "king's blood" had been a more significant element in the scene. I agree it certainly seemed that way with all of the sponging.
― Evan, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
p funny how the show ppl were so adamant abt saying he was dead and not coming back and no one believed them and then he only stayed dead for less than two eps
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
real quality cliffhanger they pulled off there
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
alliser thorne's no good very bad day is about to get worse
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
stoked for jamie to kill the sparrows
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
they probably shouldn't have said anything. i think the fact that melisandre was there at the end of the season was the problem, like if she'd shown up at the beginning of this episode that would have been better for a cliffhanger. they should have kept him dead and brought back robb stark, complete with dire wolf head. that would freak out the squares even more.
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
i have real beef with the idea that whatshername the kennel sadist girl falls off the castle wall and is hella dead but sansa and reek leap off a 60 foot embankment and are taking off on foot unharmed
― ulysses, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
didn't she land on dry ground and they jumped into a snow pile?
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
― ryan, Monday, May 2, 2016 12:28 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
Waiting For Gendry
― 龜, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
i believe there was a snow pile down there, plus feet first vs head first
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
xp i don't think we saw what they jumped into at all and the clear implication was that they'd rather commit suicide than deal with psycho mantis again
― ulysses, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
a john snow pile
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
the greyjoy/iron islands shit feels a bit removed from the main action but it's awesome doom metal action, polar opposite of the cafe del mar court intrigue poisoning sullen teen BS of dorne.
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
ya iron islands r tite
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
whos the guy who pushed the king off the bridge its his brother? whats the deal
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
his name is like euchalele or something
― 龜, Monday, 2 May 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
eunuchalele actually
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
euron the crow's eye, he crazy, i like y'all's suggestions better though
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
eunuch ukulele
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
idk why the karstarks would prefer to ramsay to roose
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
the show has three key supporting characters who are eunuchs a fourth might be pushing it
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
also is max von sydow's name really just 'three eyed crow' ?
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
need to balance it out with a guy who has four dicks imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
well it would make sense because eunuchs come in pairs
― 龜, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
the show has a bunch of Starks but that didn't stop them from bringing in Car-Starks
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
are car starks just starks who drive cars
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
really missing concepcion's ask the maester pieces this season
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
karstarks seem deeply unchill, their dead leader killed a couple lannister kids in S3, which seems more a ramsay move than a roose move.
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
p sure it's kars in westeros but yes that's the main difference
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
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apparently u cn receive them via the ringer newsletter theres a link to one upthread
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
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the book sez it's brynden rivers, i think, i wouldnt be surprised if they brought it up at some point
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
books say that Hodor's real name is Walder too, not Willis as in the show
― pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
whatutalkinabout walder
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
Karstarks' name is explained as basically some Starks that took control of the Karhold & made a portmanteau
― pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
I think Ramsay was giving the Karstarks a chance to climb up over the other big Northern houses.
Jaime killed Rickard Karstark's sons (both of them?), and he was hellbent on avenging the loss of his heirs, it was pretty consistently characterized (perhaps more so in the books).
― Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
xpost they already have a Walder tho
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
subplot of the shit in the north is people who have been pissed at the starks for decades or centuries finding their chance to take revenge
― nomar, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
I find it best not to pay attention to the North stuff too closely
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link