HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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so do we know what Missandei means by "the Masters speak only one language?" What is Tyrion going to say when he spams every other city in Slaver's Bay?

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

whether i actually like this show is a question i have been grappling w for yrs

I laughed. I don't know if you intended the level of grave seriousness and torment I imagined.

This is my favourite show. It's the only drama I still follow. It's very uneven in all respects but I unashamedly love it and still get excited about the next episode.

I'm guessing a lot of people here watch with friends and family without actually intending to watch it, but I've seen 70% of Big Bang Theory that way and have never went to the thread to complain about how harrowing that was for me.

Some of the dialogue in this episode has been making me worry. Varys just doesn't seem himself.

Was Arya caught with poisons or was that some test she was doing?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

from the looks of it, a girl passed a test

nomar, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

a girl can now take AP Chemistry

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

the poisons stuff was to train acuity in touch, smell etc. to go along with the daredevil sonar fighting

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I like how the evil maester was able to co-opt varys entire spy network by giving little kids candy

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

When you see people constantly show up to a thread for years to pick it apart and/or complain about it, that means we're all fans that are deeply invested in the story and hold it to high standards. When it doesn't meet expectations we get upset at it and we keep watching it.

ILX also has this superiority thing where we all want to remind each other that we don't find the writing or acting satisfactory. However, even reddit can't stomach the sand snakes for instance.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

they're bad! Badly acted, badly written and very silly.

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I think theres been quite a few people who say it sucks and they don't know why they keep watching.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

I agree that young Ned was perfectly fine. I was wowed by the guy who played Dayne, though -- double-handed long-sword ninja! Except he's supposed to have a single huge broadsword in the books, but whatevs, the show version is clearly a player.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

I laughed. I don't know if you intended the level of grave seriousness and torment I imagined.

when u watch the game of thrones, u win or u die

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, 9 May 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

I think theres been quite a few people who say it sucks and they don't know why they keep watching.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, May 9, 2016 12:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cause they feel guilty about the fact that they're invested?

And yes the sand snakes are objectively terrible I wasn't saying anything contrary to that.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

the dialogue is just really exceptionally bad this season. the scene where onion knight was talking to jon and telling him he needs to fight on was terrible. tyrion being bored w/ worm dude. sam having boring chit-chat on stormy boat. brann having boring arguments w/ tree-man. cercei and jaime having boring attempts to join the council. head sparrow giving boring speech about virtue to tommen.

Mordy, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

Are you going to watch the next episode?

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i've already seen all the other episodes - i'm pot committed at this pt.

Mordy, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

they could have gotten a lot more mileage out of Jon Snow's return tbh, like more of a reaction from the wildlings and certainly some kind of reaction from Alliser and co. i was looking forward to a moment where they bring them out for execution and their executioner is...whoa Jon Snow omgwtf. or some single moment where his return is more of a big deal. i am totally cool with him coming back but i think they sort of fucked it up a bit. looking forward to the bastard and whoever joins him facing off against the Bolton crew though.

nomar, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

i'm personally enjoying Bran and the ghost of christmas past and their tour of old timey westeros. i thought the ned casting was good, he had the bean look.

nomar, Monday, 9 May 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

like more of a reaction from the wildlings

Hey Tormund's pecker zinger was plenty good!

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it was really weird that they didn't react much to the reborn Jon.

I did like how Tormund looked like he was about to fall asleep during the execution.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Tormund's Peckerzinger is Finland's #1 Cookie

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

Nothing on this thread is as bad as the S6 season premiere open thread on Balloon Juice: https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/04/24/winter-is-coming-2/

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

I stopped watching this show around last season and only check this thread to make sure I'm not missing anything lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

they could have gotten a lot more mileage out of Jon Snow's return tbh, like more of a reaction from the wildlings and certainly some kind of reaction from Alliser and co. i was looking forward to a moment where they bring them out for execution and their executioner is...whoa Jon Snow omgwtf. or some single moment where his return is more of a big deal. i am totally cool with him coming back but i think they sort of fucked it up a bit. looking forward to the bastard and whoever joins him facing off against the Bolton crew though.

― nomar, Monday, May 9, 2016 12:57 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agreed, all a bit rushed and anti-climactic. Not upset with it really, just kind of surprised. Even up until the end when Jon exits the scene more like he needs to take a shit really bad and less like he handed over the responsibility of lord commander over to his very best still living friend (besides Sam). I'm aware they were showing how that execution was the last straw for him but the "I died technically so this is allowed" loop hole should have maybe been a bit more accented?

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Jaime and Cersei are totally going to have Ser Strong kill everyone on the Small Council. Kevan should have kept his ideas to himself.

Smalljon Umber is totally playing Ramsay with the offer of hostages. Ramsay's dead before the end of the season.

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

What makes it so significantly bad to you / how does it stand out? Isn't it just (arguably) one of many occasional clumsily written and acted scenes?

Oh man, two baby shots? No revelations except that "Old Town Is The Most Beautiful City In Westeros".

I hate this show.

I watched the first season, was transfixed. I read the first three books, and realized in Book 2 that I had no interest in Daenarys or Jon Snow and started skipping their chapters. I read online that Books 4 and 5 were bad, so I didn't read them and decided to let HBO read them for me.

I've gone from "caring about all but one character" to "not caring about any". All of the potential plot seeds that were sown in Book 1 went nowhere. Too many competing mythologies and religions rubbing up against each other.

I privately hold that GRR Martin is a faker, he's Dan Brown without an ending, that there is no arc in place, that he's been winging it, and that there will be no resolution to this series. The show will be cancelled next season and no further books will be published. All the cool theories that people've come up with online (i.e. Arya will band together with White Walkers and there will be a climactic battle of ice zombies vs. dragons) seem cool but unplausible given GRR Martin's glacial pace and feeling that we're treading water. I watch the show now to complain about it and to watch it expire, or perhaps settle into an long-running ecumenically written soap opera.

I did notice that the score changed dramatically this past episode and believe the budget was possibly cut for this season.. I think more perceptive people have noticed similar things about the CGI

fgti, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

congrats to Eddison on his new position, btw

Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

i suspect we will remain at the wall for a bit next episode (looked like sansa was arriving there in the preview?) but i suspect we won't see it again until the white walkers overrun it at some point.

nomar, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Xpost score for season 1 was cheap sounding and dimwitted, iirc he did a lot better for season 2 and 3 but I haven't noticed it much these last few, other than the incessant fucking taiko drums, and L Shankar style violin whenever we are overseas

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

I'm so glad Natalia Tena / Tonks / Osha is back on the show btw.

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Yeah but she's in nightmare city now :/

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

I privately hold that GRR Martin is a faker

You have failed this adverb

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

That's probably true about GRRM TBH.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

how the fuck did they make those big ass stallion sculptures btw?
please note i don't actually want an answer to that question

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

magic!

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

the way they scale in this shot they are fucking gargantuan and kind of impossible to imagine how they would be erected (especially by a nomadic tribe... that has a capital city?)
http://static6.techinsider.io/image/571fddbe52bcd022008bf1c5-1920-1080/vaes%20dothrak%20overview%20season%20six%20game%20of%20thrones.png

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

where's waldo bonus points for the one white lady in that shot

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

why did umber even bother to bring osha w/rickon?

dynamicinterface, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Some of the things in this shot are small..

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 May 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

Isn't Vaes Dothrak where they also bring all their slaves and captives? presumably at some point some Khal got the idea to raid him some braavosi caravans or something and bring back some ore, a few sculptors and architects, et voila

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

Did they show the statues when we went to Vaes Dothrak in S1?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

yeah and they were nowhere near that size; that's part of my beef
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/0/0d/Dothrakhorses.jpg/revision/latest%3Fcb%3D20150924094615

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

wow they were MUCH smaller! damn

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

statues were recast obv

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

prob by daario

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

They just raided and stole some bigger horse statues, nbd.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

hardmode vaes dothrak

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Monday, 9 May 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

If pulling explanations out of our asses helps, then perhaps ancient Dothraki cultures were more advanced, and all that remains to show for it are those giant statues.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

maybe the producers wanted it to look bigger so they made it bigger

ulysses, Monday, 9 May 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link


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