HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

Can I just say, are all of you who seem to know every damn characters name and how to spell it, readers of the books. I cant keep all these people straight in my head!

lol Trayce me too, I can barely remember who the Baratheons were let alone two separate characters called Beric

There's a place near my parents' called Castle Drogo so I remember that one.

There's admittedly some spellchecking involved :)

Wait, are there two characters called Beric?

Didn't you even know that? pfft.

Actually there are three. I only know this because I searched the GOT wiki for 'Beric'. Two of them are 'not expected to appear in the series, being dead by the time it starts'.

Beric Dondarian, Beric Jeter, and Beric May.

Oh, right. Beric Dondarion, his father Beric Dondarion Sr, and his his cousin Beric Oscar Dondarion (or Bod! as he likes to call himself), son of his uncle Oscar Dondarion.

http://i.imgur.com/QRKxcFa.png

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34500000/sansa-and-joffrey-sansa-stark-34551621-610-342.jpg

I've made a huge mistake

Jon Snow leaves Castle Black to Charlie Brown music.

ok I didn't realise this was a thing
http://arrestedwesteros.com/

but it's a brilliant thing

http://67.media.tumblr.com/e3bc4634c12741b9be0e8af8de325aa9/tumblr_o6l8wsPNcj1qk2t5co2_r1_1280.jpg

ok i'll stop now

I don't read the original story but I remember the names well enough. But all the discussion probably helps.

I'm guessing they are going to unify some of the magic soon. I'm convinced that Daeny birthed dragons by stumbling onto the resurrection formula, with Khal Drogo being the royal blood. I could see Hodor being an imperfect resurrection.

i just reminded myself of what went down at the red wedding and i hadn't realised before that it was roose bolton who killed robb stark, i think in that period of the show i was struggling to tell apart the vast number of stern white men who haven't shaved for a while

There's a new excerpt of Winds of Winter released. From Dorne. It's a pretty fun reminder of how different that stuff is from the show (the POV character isn't on the show, the people she's seeking out aren't on the show) It's really not well written at all, though, as in, even worse than usual. Right? But it's a draft, so that's probably ok.

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/

p weird that he is sharing drafts. is his confidence totally shot or something?

As far as I can tell, it's described as a 'sample' or an 'excerpt' rather than a draft - where are you getting that from, Frederik?

It replaces one (an excerpt from the next book) that's been up there for the last year, I think it's just something he does as the lowest possible level of "I haven't forgotten about this book".

http://imgur.com/IqaFJFh

That fight reminded me the silly Phantom Menace swordplay too.

That excerpt was rough. Reminds us why we're glad Dorne has been backgrounded on the TV show...

Why did everyone start calling Gregor Clegane/The Mountain by the name Robert Strong now?

I think in the books we don't actually know he's the mountain. is that right?

We don't ~officially~ know that the Mountain has been reanimated, but it's like the "Is Jon Snow really dead" cliffhanger.

I presume that Qyburn came up with a pseudonym because people knowing that he brought the Mountain back from the dead would freak them out.

Except didn't he/someone call him Clegane in the more recent ep? I guess it's more mysterious in the book, where you can't actually see a 7 foot, 300 pound killing machine.I love how people are predicting a Cleganebowl. That's funny. Just the word/concept.

they definitely called him Sir Gregor in the latest ep. but maybe just amongst Cersei/Jamie/Clyburn.

xpost poly that's correct. in the show it's always been explicit to the viewer and known to cersei's circle. to what extent any will or consciousness that could be called gregor clegane is left under the helmet is another matter.

So to help my addled brain Ive been doing some reading back of plot summaries and the like. Apparently in the books Balon was killed way back before the red wedding? I wonder why they waited so long in the show? It also raises hope that maybe zombiestark will happen after all.

tbh I was confused they brought up the entire pike islands kings moot business at this point. I thought that was something that was going to be kept out of the show to keep it simple. Maybe it's a bigger part of the plot? The "next week" previews already has Theon back on Pike but in the books I don't remember where he was left.

well dany's whole fleet and harbor got burned and a bunch of insane pirates who know their way around westeros could prove useful, is my guess why they didn't streamline the pike plot out entirely

Theon was last seen jumping off a Winterfell wall with Sansa in the books, IIRC.

in the books sansa and theon haven't met again since she split for king's landing in book 1. she's last seen off glad-handling with littlefinger in the vale. theon/reek is stuck in winterfell being theon/reek.

Theon was last seen jumping off a Winterfell wall with Sansa in the books, IIRC.

Except it's not actually Sansa in the books

At this point I think I'm just going to skip reading those books altogether. I tried once years ago but was quickly put off by the heavy handed prose. Maybe if GRRM actually finishes this I'll give it another go but at the moment it all seems very confusing. .

Oh right, it was the fake Sansa, right?

Fake Arya.

reading those book summaries is kind of hilarious

so the real Mance Rayder, not the fake executed one, helps rescue the fake Arya
ok dawg

fake Arya and Theon had escaped and were chilling (very literally) with Stannis in the woods at the end of book 5.

Yeah, and to make fake Mance Rayder even more fun, it's all explained through Theon's eyes, who don't know who Mance Rayder is, so I for instance managed to not get that was him at all...

i recall it being fairly clear that fauxMance was exactly who he was ... could have been context clues or another chapter idk

Oh, iirc Jon says that's what's going on. You're told Mance Rayder will go to Winterfell, and then somebody who looks like Mance Rayder shows up in Winterfell. I just missed it anyways.

I just remembered Craster's liberated ladyslaves. Wonder how they're all getting on.

http://i.imgur.com/7DtSPu3.png

Interesting that both Snow and Dondarrion were resurrected by people who had lost their religious faith at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2MGg_8TF9g

Terrific and really well thought out review of the Tower fight scene

DANY FUCKING TARGARYEAN

booooooo

ramsay's apple slicing skills are v suspect. the end was cheese city

I wouldn't have guessed I would get sick of Jonathan Pryce prattling on but ok, enough, I'm ready to confess, please

or convert

A lot of Dhany's victories come from her having dragons and/or being able to withstand flames (I always forget about that one...good job GoT for not overdoing it), plus the music was terrible and I always slightly groan at all the bowing-before-the-Queen business (even though I get it, she killed all the Khals and withstood fire).

AND YET I still get a thrill from Dany being a total badass in just the right way. "You are all small" etc was just perfect.

Will be interested to see what happens when her pro-slavery Dothraki hordes start hanging in Mereen. Or what she's going to think of Tyrion's "negotiations".

I liked the High Sparrow's speech. Feel like they would normally have written him off as just the villain by this point waiting to be dispensed with but they're admirably sticking with it and trying to flesh out his character. Plus Pryce is too good.

Fuck that Osha/Ramsay scene.

Also, Story Movement!