woody allen

My chief impression of Soon-Yi from the rather scarifying wILD mAN bLUES doc was that she's self-possessed.

His point was (pretty much) that the media fears retaliation. Allen retaliates. Point proven.

But Treeship to the defence! Good on you, for always having the back of people like Allen, Yacht, Trump-voters, and everyone else accused of sexism, racism and everything worse. Must be a busy job.

Fred you really are a p.i.t.a.

how did you get that from "woody wants to avoid being asked questions about that situation," which is self-evident?

xpost

fuck you frederik

My chief impression of Soon-Yi from the rather scarifying wILD mAN bLUES doc was that she's self-possessed.

^^^

they've been married for nearly 20 years, they have kids, both publicly express happiness about their relationship. it's creepy to litigate their relationship as if she has no agency.

x-post: At this point what must be thousands of hand-wringing posts all over this site. Sorry Treeship, but it gets extremely annoying after a while.

Good on you, for always having the back of people like Allen, Yacht, Trump-voters, and everyone else accused of sexism, racism and everything worse.

when have i ever had the back of trump voters? or woody allen for that matter. yesterday i posted this:

as a young woody allen fan i used to be all c'est la vie about the soon yi thing and didn't think it had any bearing on the dylan farrow thing. but now i think it's pretty strong evidence that he is a person who is selfish beyond words and i wouldn't put it past him to hurt a child.

― Treeship, Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't see what's creepy about Woody's relationship, it's only the same as the judge guy in Sweeney Todd

fwiw I totally think the circumstances of their relationship is bizarre - but it obviously works for them and they're happy with it so who cares

I know, who cares? I basically hope all my friends who are dating people with young children wind up marrying them

people are so uptight

hey as long as the kids are totally okay with it, let's not deny them their agency

she is not a child

telling a grown woman she doesn't know what's best for herself, always a good look

yes that's exactly what people are doing.

tbf as a grown man i know i certainly have a clear-sighted and objective perspective on my parents

@NickPinkerton
Someone should write about how news or allegations about an artist's personal life might affect the reception of their work.

Allen was never Soon-Yi's father, and she was not a child when their relationship began. It's weird that this needs to be restated 20 years later.

xp

Treeship, you're constantly writing this stupid handwringing waste of time. You're response to me was stupid - how would Allen know that the THR reporters would about Dylan and that nobody else would? - and I almost always find what you think or worry about to be annoying. And I'm clearly not the only one. Hey, carry on, do what you want, say what you think, you honestly seem like a good person. But please don't write to me, I don't have time for your stupid whataboutery.

And I'll shut up now.

the closer analogy is idk something like the lyrics to Dolly Parton's "Travelling Man" where a woman's daughter steals her mother's boyfriend.

xp

lol

interesting

bottom line which should be screamingly obvious, without any psychoanalyzing of Soon-Yi, is that for Allen to enter into this relationship, instigator or not, lol, was morally unconscionable by any reasonable standard

otm

goddamn right

btw fuck woody allen

no thanks

shush

for Allen to enter into this relationship, instigator or not, lol, was morally unconscionable by any reasonable standard

agreed

And I'll shut up now.

― Frederik B, Thursday, 12 May 2016 16:50 (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey Fred!

This isn't useful unless you put the end date on it. Gives us an idea of how long we can enjoy it for.

Ta

Dmac

Fred, I think in a popularity contest between you and Treesh... well, there is no contest tbh.

coddled motor-mouth POLL

Wait, I thought in "travelin man" the mom runs off w/Dolly's bf?

Also Fred u suck

haha you may be right I might have that backwards lol

I think the setup is that her mom would be super upset about her seeing this shady travelin' man and the mom stealing him is the twist ending.

can't help but feel that the disgust at Woody and Soon-Yi's weird marriage could have something to do with a "conservative" view on sexuality, that a lot of those condemning their marriage would also condemn fx gay marriage - but that's just speculation

So bougie to just not understand how a man can fall in love with the woman he was intimately involved with as a pre-pubescent. For shame, squares.

he was not intimately involved with her as a pre-pubescent

why do I bother

xps some people have a knack for speculation. others don't.

ah, Gigi...

Treeship when are you gonna start defending me

He started dating her mother when she was between 7 and 9 years old. You can try to handwave away "involvement" but fuck anyone who chalks up looking askance at a guy later fucking that prepubescent child to "sexual conservatism."

hi i heard this is the thread where the men are talking

so the thing with woody is he met soon-yi when she was 15

no one argues that you have to be a sick man to have romantic or sexual feelings toward a 15-year old when you're 50

how far gone mentally does woody have to be to disassociate the 15-year old daughter role from the "oh just another woman" role to let himself develop any of these feelings for her

that sounds more sick

i used to love his movies. now this sick man is making me download his movies from torrent sites just so he doesn't pocket more royalties

i judge and am judged

circle of lyfe

think of the gaffers

If he met her at 15, he would have been dating Mia for 5 years without meeting one of the kids?

there's a picture floating around of him, mia and family from 1986 so that's where i'm getting that number from