HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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Wonder who's idea it was to give Jon a man-bun?

Next episode preview shows the Lannisters gearing up to stop Margaery's walk of shame.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

i was hoping the uncle wld just drown and everyone wld be all welp

― lag∞n, Monday, May 23, 2016 9:15 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was so ready for this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

Me too.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link

How did none of those guys notice them slip away and run off to the boats, though?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

they were at the beach but the rest were at the marina

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

I love Eurons hubris. "oh. they took all our boats. WELP! LETS GO BUILD MORE COME ON PEOPLE HUP HUP"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link

Shit is certainly happening i guess.

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 06:31 (seven years ago) link

Lol at the idea of 50 ironborns making a thousand boats though.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 06:48 (seven years ago) link

the euron guy is a p terrible actor. that whole scene was amusing but the "ironborn cheer and chant euron's name"/"ironborn murmur approval" were all kinda thin.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 07:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm so bored of interminable scenes of Arya and that other girl stick fighting.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 07:58 (seven years ago) link

The Euron guy is Danish actor Pilou Asbæk, who is pretty good in films such as A Hijacking, but clearly don't have the necessary grasp of the English language to play an intimidating leader.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link

Emilia Clarke was good this week. Sansa/Brienne v Littlefinger scene was great. Lots of forward momentum storywise; good ep.
Was it Euron who was behind the burning of Dany's fleet of ships? He seemed to know a lot about her situation, and that she would be needing some boats asap.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

this show is going down the dumper very quickly. not having read the books there was so much of this that made no sense and/or was boring. The Bran storyline especially feels like it's been cut to ribbons. Characters / creatures just seem to turn up unannounced and without explanation. It's really hard to feel a connection to any of them when I literally haven't a clue who any of them are, what they're questing for, what they're talking about or why they're even doing all this stuff in the first place. 'Hold The Door' has to be the biggest shark-jumping moment of the show so far. And don't get me started on Arya. Why replay the same scene over and over again, week in week out with her getting beaten up and then getting told she's not ready yet when, y'know, they could explain who the tree women are or why some white walkers can walk through fire and others can't or even maybe who half the characters on the Bran quest EVEN ARE and why they're blindly helping this kid??

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 09:23 (seven years ago) link

I think there's enough info for what is the biggest unfolding mystery of the story. I'm not really confused about any of the info so far.

I'm guessing the White Walker kings are just cold enough to withstand that level of fire.

'Hold The Door' has to be the biggest shark-jumping moment of the show so far.

Honestly?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

I figured the white walker boss men could cross the fire because Bran got scratched by the Night King - there was a line of dialogue roughly to that effect.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

Hold the door was a nice, and quite affecting, reveal. The show seems to be gaining momentum now it isn't so beholden to the books.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:39 (seven years ago) link

I think the dialogue was about them being able to find and/or enter the cave, not cross the fire. I assumed the senior civil servant white walkers are just able to cross fire but the minions are not.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

I quite liked "hold the door" but the mention of Lost upthread has soured it a little for me. It did have a bit of that about it.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

I enjoyed the mummer's play actually - nice that it can still ease off the blood n zombies every now and then for that kind of textural world building detail. Plus Kevin Eldon. Didn't recognise Richard E Grant at all till he had de-wigged.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:44 (seven years ago) link

I think Hold the Door worked well, felt like something GRRM had planned since the beginning.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link

The white walkers can deal with fire, the zombies can't. I don't think the fire was the magic, the white walkers destroyed the magic with the pounding of the ground and the shaking and all that. That part of it was definitely weird.

Also, the show has kinda fallen down on the companions to Bran (except Hodor). Jojen and Meera Reed are introduced in book 2, and have much more depth in the books. Bran keeps on having visions, and dreams, and discussions with other people about things like the Children, which helps a lot when they show up. I also think another child pops up in book 3, in a completely different story, and they cut that out on the show. So that whole thing has kinda been underdeveloped. It's pretty weird and complex and dreamlike, though, so it's not that easy to portray.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 10:51 (seven years ago) link

the mummers play was good yeah. not sure what the point of it was, other than showing that maybe the Starks (particularly Ned) weren't all as respected as we might have thought?

the whole 'Bran being scratched' thing - why did the tree man jeopardise him by taking him there in the first place? seems a bit weird.

Think 'Hold the Door' was a bit ruined for me by a fan theory which i shouldn't have read that said that Hodor was a warg and warged into Ned's sister's horse one too many times. I'm still a bit confused as to who was warging into who and from where at the end. I thought it was Bran in the past warging into Hodor in the present via his past self? Or was it Past-Hodor hearing the same voice as Bran and taking it on himself to warg into his future self so he could hold the door? Why doesn't Present-Hodor just hold the door anyway without any warging? I dunno...

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

so is there a difference between walkers and zombies now? what about those goblin things that chased Bran in the last episode of s5?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

And who are these tree women? I don't remember them ever being introduced properly, they just seemed to rock-up? The whole a-ha moment with them creating the Walker-King felt very rushed and ill-explained because of that. I take it they're nature spirits or something, but why would they lose control of the Walkers if the were the case? Another climate-change analogy?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

The whole 'White King can see you and find you now' is very LOTR Wring Wraiths. I don't know why they decided to hang around a bit to do more pointless warging considering the very real and imminent danger.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

are you doing something else while you are watching the show?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

Mummers play was to show Arya not being able to let go of Stark past and become nobody or w/e

Tree man didn't take him there. Bran touched the tree without guidance or permission and ended up at the same place but in the present.

Hodor is normally a cowherd and wouldn't have hodor'd without being warged into.

Pretty sure Bran was warged into Hodor both in the past and the present creating the link that destroyed his mind.

Always been a difference between walkers and zombies. Zombies don't get the cool ice swords and undead ice horses and don't get to wear death metal costumes. Goblin things you mention were zombies iirc

Children of the forest weren't introduced very well, if at all.

I'm guessing tree man knew that Bran needed to be there at that exact moment in time for history to be fulfilled and Hodor to Hodor. The fact that he encourages Bran to warg into Hodor while in the past supports this.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link

paying attention so you don't have to

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

The walkers are ancient beings, there aren't that many of them. The zombies are dead people raised again by the walkers, there are more and more of them. The children of the forrest are the first inhabitants of Westeros, before the humans came over from Essos thousands of years ago, though most people believe them to be legendary like the walkers.

I get the confusion, though. If it wasn't for the books giving out a guideline for people like the guy doing 'Ask the Maester' I think there would be a whole lot more confusion.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:29 (seven years ago) link

don't get to wear death metal costumes.

More like black metal costumes if I'm allowed to be a metal pedant.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

the mummers play seemed to presuppose a lot of political knowledge from the commoner audience, everybody in braavos must read the newspapers closely

A show has no plot

calstars, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

I thought the play mostly showed how the commoners rely on rumor and prejudice. It's all blamed on Tyrion, who wasn't even in Kings Landing when it happened, he only became Hand of the King afterwards. Stark is portrayed as a stupid bumpkin with a weird accent, probably anti-Northern prejudice. Robert is fat and farting. The heroes are the blond and beautiful.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

I also liked how they were terrified of Tyrion marrying Sansa. A completely pointless thing in the grander scheme of the plot, but for everyone outside, the thought of a middle aged dwarf marrying a beautiful young maiden is absolutely horrifying, and must be proof to hist lustful evilness.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:22 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/WRCnkuT.jpg

, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9uJ4CZu.jpg

, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link

I can't believe Hodor's origin story turns out to be the punchline to a racist joke I heard in middle school.

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:35 (seven years ago) link

hey guys I was confused during that flashback Arya was watching. Did they totally recast Ned and Joffrey and Tyrion? Contract issues? Sansa's boobs were a body double's right? Show is going down the dumper.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

Nah, it just looks different than you remember because every actor and actress has gone through puberty since then.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

they obviously can't guarantee getting sean bean or joffrey to come back for it, but duh, that was tyrion. dwarves are allowed to have a different haircut too!

xpost

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah guess i was fooled by the fake nose!

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

And how could it be anyone but roly poly lovable Northern rogue and star of the Full Monty Richard E Grant as King Robert?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

it was nice they evened up the nudity by that split-second shot of possibly a ballsack

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

1 ballsack, 10,000 breasts

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

the golden ratio

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

6 seasons and a ballsack

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

I can't keep track of any of the characters in this show. Was the guy farting on the stage the Night King?

Evan, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

I quite liked "hold the door" but the mention of Lost upthread has soured it a little for me. It did have a bit of that about it.

It at least established that everything we've seen so far has either happened because or in spite of what Bran does in the past. So if he can change bits of the past he can't change the events of the show (ie magically saving Ned or whatever). Which would be a massive shark-jumping moment.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link


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