great piece
it's not a question of their ex politics so much as their upbringing I suspect
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link
I feel kind of sad about Dale Winton's unexpected heel turn. or had he shown inclinations of this sort on previous occasions, and they'd passed me by?
http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/dale-winton-donald-trump-is-he-hero-or-villain/
― soref, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
I'm guessing a celeb of Winton's stature hasn't lived in the real world for a very very long time.
― it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link
Some BRWPs and their Twitter clout
Milo Yiannopoulos: 234k (this has rocketed up from 60k or so within the last year but I get the impression he does go in for fake follower shenans)-Louise Mensch: 97kDan Hodges: 65.5kToby Young: 51.2k-James Delingpole: 28.3kMelanie Philips: 23.7kDavid Vance: 22kJon Gaunt: 19.8kSarah Vine: 13k (has duly quit Twitter)
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 May 2016 09:59 (seven years ago) link
Are there any BRWPs who make their point with class and elegance? Apart from NRQ obv
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link
Oborne? Is he still alive?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link
Yiannopoulos is US-centric these days? That might explain why he's 10 times more popular than, er, Melanie Phillips.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:08 (seven years ago) link
Oborne came out strongly against Goldsmith recently.
Parris is one of the more sensible ones, though presumably considered a bit wet, and Hitchens seems to be winning friends on both sides atm.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens was on R4 last night, talking about his SWP days and his path to enlightenment.
― calzino, Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
oh it's true, Oborne has written some fairly decent things in vague memory. i'm sure he's also said some horrid things too but that's the nature of it
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
he seems to cleave to a sort of Peter Mannion-esque old-fashioned-Tory-decency shtick
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link
Extremely Mannionesque.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens seems to be winning friends on both sides atm.
He's insane though. I'm assuming he is not on Twitter.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:23 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah28.7k followers
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link
Had to check who David Vance was, he's some piece of work that guy.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link
Lotta ironical lols when you GIS him though.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link
Had Peter Hitchens in my place of work earlier, very polite and decent fellow, on first impressions.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
He's the absolute worst.
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
just clicked that link to Hitchens' twitter feed, and saw this interchange (under his pinned tweet), ice cold:
Philip Redbrooke @PK_Roe Jul 7@ClarkeMicah hello sir, I am a young (ish) Tory activist in Herts. Would like to talk with you about Social Conservatism at a conv time. TaPeter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe I debate with readers on my archived, indexed blog.Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe But if you are an activist in the Blairite Tory Party the only thing I have to say to you is 'resign now'
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe I debate with readers on my archived, indexed blog.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah Jul 8@PK_Roe But if you are an activist in the Blairite Tory Party the only thing I have to say to you is 'resign now'
― soref, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
You'd think so, but he was very pleasant to deal with. Kwasi Kwarteng came in later, now he is a dick.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
Hitchens is not the worst, Delingpole is https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/05/james-delingpole-article-calling-ocean-acidification-alarmism-cleared-by-press-watchdog?CMP=twt_gu
― Neil S, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
can't get over this photo of Peter Hitchens from 1969
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6f/55/6c/6f556cd56570db6384477dbc9e5a4226--interesting-history-peter-otoole.jpg
― soref, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link
His campaign for real Conservatism, the crusade against cannabis and for the restoration of the death penalty. They were just little acorns of thought in his mind at this point.
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link
He makes me lol so much when refers to Blair as a Marxist. I mean you'd think someone who used to dress like that would know a Marxist when he sees one!
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:52 (six years ago) link
I could imagine a grizzled + ageing (i.e. looking past getting ID'ed) Owen Jones being more right wing than Hitchens in the future.
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link
Long hair and sideburns, but still looks like an arrogant twat who knows what's good for you.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
Having that smug type of countenance that silently says "your'e wrong and I'm right you fucking pleb!" is probably quite a burden! Or is it something you just naturally grow into?
― calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:11 (six years ago) link
I listen to Radio 3, and occasionally they get this cunt on to talk. Here's your smug patrician countenance:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Simon_Heffer1-xlarge.png
As if Anne McElvoy on Free Thinking wasn't bad enough.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link
I am ashamed to admit I was once in a lift with that cunt and didn't stab him. Not that I had a knife on me at the time.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
that's truly a horrible old england face
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Simon_Heffer1-xlarge.pnghttps://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/26/1366993851778/Sir-John-Houblon-pictured-011.jpg
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
unngh
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/24/article-0-1AB6DBCE00000578-814_634x326.jpg
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
Think I've come around to Peter Hitchens a little in so much as I still think he's wrong about almost everything, but is at least operating from what appears to be sincerely held beliefs and is at least courteous (if not respectful) to his opponents (which seems to be basically everyone)On the other hand my dislike of Matthew Parris, who seems to be treated as one of the good uns, knows no bounds.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 6 October 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
Man alive...
A few more of the guests we've got coming up on #AftertheNews - join us from Monday after the @itvnews at Ten pic.twitter.com/19OuQco0B6— After The News (@AfterTheNewsITV) October 5, 2017
― nashwan, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link
Beyond The Facts
― nashwan, Friday, 6 October 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link
I am not sure JRM is especially conservative. https://t.co/qVNsEvCETC— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) October 7, 2017
― calzino, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
As you must be aware, true conservatism is now the counter culture, so you and Rees-Mogg are slowly gaining rockstar status here in the US— ReaIity Kid (@ReaIityKid) October 7, 2017
― calzino, Saturday, 7 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
This Paperchase pearl-clutching is all very amusing
Day 1 of the RW Columnist Paperchase anti boycott boycott. Rod Liddle has had to burn all of his tropical fruit scented pens. His hair smells of molten plastic & mango. Tim Montgomerie is suspected of owning a cactus print A5 academic year planner & is hung as a witch.— Then he went 'eurgh it's me really' & stabbed me (@Scriblit) November 21, 2017
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:11 (six years ago) link
Quite an amusing New Statesman article yesterday pointing out that Paperchase presumably know their customers and in any case *this is how the free market they usually love so much is supposed to work*. But I suspect most of this is primal fear of more advertisers following suit and their columns/paycheques disappearing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link
the hypocrisy would be breathtaking if I hadn't lived with it for 40 years
― faked potato (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link
I'd find this all more amusing if I didn't know its all going to kill the conversational vibe at family Xmas dinner this year.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:05 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your wrapping paper was from Paperchase?
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your wrapping paper is the Daily Mail?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:56 (six years ago) link
when you reveal your rapping granny is chasing paper?
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link
when you reveal paper granny wrapping frozen elsa pregnant spider man?
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link
there it is
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
fped you all FYI
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link
with sellotape and knives
― Mark G, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/british-journalism-awards-2017-nick-ferrari-is-journalist-of-the-year-full-list-of-winners/
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 06:45 (six years ago) link
British journalism is in a healthy state I see.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 10:13 (six years ago) link