okafor is more likely than most of these but i like middleton i guess
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link
they dont want okafor is my feeling
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
doesnt really solve all their problems though since he'd be replacing a good player in the lineup and not a jared sullinger
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
xp yeah i get that sense too or it'd be a done deal
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
middleton and crowder can both play some four i think itd be ok
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link
pick bender cos he has a cool name obv
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
i would pick bender i think
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link
benders stock is plummeting according to draft xpress hes down to 7 on their mock idk why
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
seems to be a general clusterfuck after the top 2
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link
apparently most teams have kris dunn at 3 now but its wildly divergent after that
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link
wildly divergent in part because everyone's systems for evaluating talent are so unreliable
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
dunn at 3 seems crazy to me
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link
wheres the upside! have we all forgotten abt upside!
i could hear the argument for brown but he is prob more in the stanley johnson/justise winslow mold and idk that feels a bit redundant to me for the celtics. i wonder if he would have enough room to grow when you have smart, bradley, crowder, turner etc all more or less occupying that same sort of role.
there's no one on the celts who can do what bender could do tho, he's a very unique talent even if he prob wouldn't help them much this year.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
i guess i could see danny picking kris dunn if he feels they just really need offense for this coming season but that feels like a waste to me given all they did to get this pick
yeah i dont think the celtics have dunn at 3 just saying thats what the pick represents for a lot of the teams theyre shopping it to
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
i highly doubt they draft dunn. would be fine with bender if the pick can't be traded by thursday evening, brown is ok but seems like a considerable project and doesn't at present offer what bender might (namely shooting)
if they trade it, middleton would be fine. my dream is still the 3 pick + avery bradley + maybe james young or terry rozier + some 2nds to the bulls for butler (it allows the bulls to draft a point guard at 3, which they desperately need), but that seems more and more unlikely at this point.
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
ya unless butler is srsly forcing their hand bulls wld be nuts to move him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link
i mean it seems reasonable because the bulls prob need to do a top-down rebuild - being in the middle has gotten them nowhere for 5 years - but i think they see butler as the cornerstone around which to rebuild (not sure if that's the case, but pretty positive it's what they believe)
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
trade for curry
― am0n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
i would consider doing that at if i was the bulls the ultimate problem in talking about this pick is that there's nobody good to pick!!!!!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
theres def someone good to pick teams just dont know who it is
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
i mean theres always someone good left at #3
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
the record of everyone in the world at predicting whether a draft is strong or not is very bad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
wld say the only thing ppl are good at predicting is if everyone agrees theres a cant miss player at the top of the draft then thats generally true, tho the whole league did favor oden over durant so even thats falible
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
health/injury busts are different from straight up not actually being good at basketball busts
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
anyone think oden wldve been better than kd even if he stayed healthy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
not to mention there were tons of red flags re his health before the draft
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
the best draft ever
http://i.imgur.com/lVijZ5V.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's true that most drafts end up with at least a handful of very good (and above) players but like compare 2013 to 2015 and i think people's reads on those drafts will end up being correct
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
this is unconscionable cherry picking and a fallacy jordan i demand a retraction
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
what's crazier, vonleh being picked at 9 then or him having a decent amount of minutes in the 2nd round of the 2015-16 playoffs, against the friggin warriors?
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
the only outright bust in that top 10 is probably stauskas - rest aside from wiggins and parker (and...maybe gordon? idk?) were just overrated. but yeah, def not worthy of the hype level it commanded
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
wiggins was really overrated
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
vonleh really not that bad in the grand scheme of things
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
jury still very out on a number of those guys
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link
which i guess makes sense considering it was only 2 years ago
a down low potential horrible pick is hezonja i forgot he went #5
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
he seemed so fun what happened
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
maybe theres still hope idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
he's a 21 year old euro gotta give him some time im just saying if he turns out to be a quasi-bust it looks like they passed on a bunch of really good players
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
i think skiles might've broken him, but there also may not have been much to break
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
he didnt play a ton this yr but when he did he didn't really do anything
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
his shooting %s were fine he just didn't really shoot much
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
he gets a one year pass for skiles
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link
if fournier gets moved then he'll get a lot more usage
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
sounds like most of the 'rumored' deals were never really on the table, only the sixers are interested in the pick
i think drafting bender is correct at this point but if they don't like him then i'd rather they get okafor than draft someone else
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link
brown has major upside potential imo
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
we still have the nets pick the next 2 years though so i'm always down with just drafting a high upside guy (bender) and then having a strong team in 5 years rather than now
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
there cant possibly be 3 weak draft classes in a row right?????
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
this one might not even be weak who knows!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
the nets will prob get a lil better tho via throwing money at third tier free agents
yeah i think theres a reasonable chance that we have a top 5 pick again next yr though. theyre starting from a pretty low point
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
tru wldnt be surprised
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
i'm not sure if hardwood paroxysm is just trolling or what but they theorize a boogie cousins trade http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2016/06/22/2016-nba-mock-draft-lakers-76ers-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
i support this theorizing and sacto is absolutely stupid enough to do it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
its been my dream forever but i'd long since resigned myself to it not happening. still don't think it will, but...
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
if they get boogie durant becomes possible, im not saying remotely likely, but real
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
boogie seems very unlikely if they can't get khris middleton but sac front office...
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
sac trading away their star for parts with the new arena opening seems like <1% though
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
they cld get middleton for the package described in that piece
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
thing w boogie is we dont know just how bad his relationship w the org is, its at least pretty bad but it cld be nearing unworkable, maybe hes already demanded a trade who knows
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
im sure they want to see if boogie will take to joerger
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
that's the main reason i think it's unlikely - joerger clearly vibes well with dudes who are often known for being prickly (hairston, barnes, z-bo, etc.) and it's not unreasonable to think that could happen in the coming season. the minute it doesn't, tho, sacramento totally starts shopping boogie around the deadline
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
jeerer will be great w boogie. question is can he shield boog from everything else wrong with the franchise, answer is no, obv
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
boogie if ur listening demand a trade to the celtics now thank u
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
if teague is gone are the hawks also looking to move millsap? bc if so i'd be willing to part w quite a bit for him
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
dont think the hawks are tearing it down cld be wrong tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link
rumor now is they're shopping 12+21 around, i think they just didnt like teague for whatever reason
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
prob felt he was expendable w schro behind him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/745703967062167552
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
oh whoops thats already in the other thread why do we have so many threads
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link
Celtics should just take Bender and hope
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
10 years ago we had Kevin Love, Kevin Hope, and Kevin Dreams
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
2014 wasn't weak at all!
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
oh i meant 16 17 18
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
Schroeder is ready and it seemed like maybe he'd passed Teague
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Oh sorry. Yeah one of the reasons this draft sucks is some guys waited for 17.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link
I think his rookie season went fine considering his role. He had a couple breakout games when they started him. Big thing with him is turnovers. Stan Johnson and Winslow didn't exactly set the world on fire.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 15m15 minutes agoLeague sources tell @chadfordinsider and me: Philadelphia is ramping up its efforts to acquire tonight's No. 3 overall pick from Boston.
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 13m13 minutes agoNumerous rivals describe Philly as the most active team in circulation ... with a trade involving Nerlens Noel looking more and more likely
:)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
Yes would trade
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link
We're well stocked on 6-5 to 6-8 somewhat above average swing men and also combo/semi point guards, there are glaring spots available for a rim protector/pnr roller, true stretch 4, and generic superstar, turning a mediocre pick into one of those would be a score
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link
lol philly has disavowed the process but theyre still forced to behave in a process like manner cause the process only bothered to draft frontcourt players
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link
srsly abt to trade their most nba ready player to draft a risky point guard
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
hinkdawg was interested in length to a borderline unhealthy degree; the only normal-sized human he drafted was MCW
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
if the celtics do get noel i wonder if he'll leave gatorade, weed roaches and poop all over the apartment he rents http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-nerlens-noel-accused-of-doing-really-gross-things-to-a-rental-home/
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
celtics apparently gonna take dunn if they make the pick
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
its a bluff imo cause thats who philly wants
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link
when u looks at team need and upside it doesnt really make sense
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
tho i guess he is kinda they type of player danny likes
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really only moderately gross when u consider his age and gender
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
oh i'm personally not remotely offended by that, boston landlords are complete douchebags and deserve all the headaches in the world. the whole tombstone allegation is weird af
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
ya def some sort of beef going on there
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link
ay its kris dunns shot chart
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClplKssWYAE6tws.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
personally think red = low green = high is a better color scheme
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
yeah def
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
really loves the straight on 3 huh
thats my shot too :]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link