Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

not saying that there is any connection in either of those instances --- more observing that the movement from military to police brings with it weapons AND culture. and that affects not just veterans in the force, but everyone: a rookie internalizes the idea that they're patrolling a warzone filled with potential enemies, and pops off because he gets scared. an aggro asshole justifies his aggression on the grounds that he's the only force for order in an otherwise savage environment. that some cops might have undiagnosed combat-related PTSD and/or TBI is noted simply as a possibility, and one that might figure in significantly into at least a few police interactions

xps

being a cop is plenty to give u ptsd on its own

i bet

i am so completely unimpressed by ppl's reactions to this shit. you really have a problem with bad cops? go be a good cop.

http://www.kare11.com/mb/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

maybe robot cops will be less likely to kill black people indiscriminately

white supremacists also promote the idea that policing in black communities is some kind of "warzone" activity, I mean there are a lot of things in media, police subculture, and conservative middle class communities in general that contribute to cops having at a minimum a subconscious idea that a black person is threatening.

apparently from the Castile arrest xxp

maybe robot cops will be less likely to kill black people indiscriminately

― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not if they let white ppl program them

self-driving car that crashed didn't see color, iirc

We taught a twitter bot to be racist and anti-Semitic in like three hours, turning a robot into the dog from White Dog should be child's play.

Recently revisited this piece from last year:

Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People
The dangers of turning police officers into revenue generators.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/police-shootings-traffic-stops-excessive-fines

http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/robocop_top.jpg

newt gingrich said this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm25nXqWEAAX7X3.jpg

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/08/newt-gingrich-white-americans-dont-understand-being-black-in-america/

honestly the most shocking thing so far

police need to be trained like monks, or Jedi or some shit

Trump said (in a Facebook post mostly about Dallas), "The senseless, tragic deaths of two people in Louisiana and Minnesota reminds us how much more needs to be done."

so it WAS Newt in the Jheri curl

xpost I believe he initially said "two motorists": http://hinterlandgazette.com/2016/07/donald-trump-finally-addresses-alton-sterling-philando-castile-shootings-get-slightly-wrong.html

I am likewise flabbergasted by that Newt Gingrich statement.

trump not actually going so far as to admit racism exists (outside of anti white racism of course)

In terms of risk, I was just talking to a friend about how Castile was reported to have a prior "record" of 31 minor traffic infringements. He was a school cafeteria worker (i.e. low wage) who presumably needed a car to get to work. Being poor plus black = missing insurance payments, not being able to renew license right away, not being able to fix stuff like broken tail lights, etc., and being black and riding in an old clunky car = being WAY more likely to get pulled over every single time you slip. So just thinking about how many more interactions with police he had to go through than the average person and then how much more likely it was that police would be aggressive with him each time it happened.

I mean that's fucking crazy, 31 times. I've been pulled over exactly twice in my life and have definitely done my share of speeding, driving without proper documents on me (even if I had them), violating minor traffic rules, driving with a light out, etc.

(to be clear he was probably pulled over more than 31 times, assuming some of those ended with a warning).

(er also I guess there could have been multiple infractions on a single stop, but w/e, that's a lot any way you slice it).

classic Newt - go from eye-opening legit cogent point to a totally irrelevant cultural dogwhistle about hip hop

I take that back, a more generous reading of his statement about alienation leading to sloganeering is certainly possible

woke newt

lol

I'm still boggling at that statement from Gingrich

also lol: so it WAS Newt in the Jheri curl

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13620723_10101088199830621_8507605349493606196_n.jpg?oh=aa0ebb9937aaee4d11abbb35884bc155&oe=57F05CA3

what the fuck

http://i.imgur.com/tFVzEEB.png

is that dumb tweet about the diverse people of our nation, and, if so, are latinos...tabasco??

i guess this is glaringly obvious but maybe it's time to change this model of choosing among the dregs of the public labor force to roam the streets with a license to kill

feel like she was just having feelings while eating breakfast

omg lagoon, the response to that Geraldo tweet

maybe robot cops will be less likely to kill black people indiscriminately

― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:02 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not if they let white ppl program them

― lag∞n, Friday, July 8, 2016 1:04 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and not if they teach them use historically "effective" heuristics and training data to train them

i think the tabasco is blood : [

http://66.media.tumblr.com/3746f585883ea8daa1e9aef64764811a/tumblr_ntp5nnKPKA1qagxv6o1_1280.jpg

the gingrich thing is bizarre. in the same breath he offers empathy to black folks and suggests they are not "normal." it's like he can't sustain an anti-racist statement without at least one implicitly racist undertone.

xposts -- aren't cops in big cities paid pretty well? even rookie cops around here are paid more than 2x what i've ever made.

regardless I think we all can agree that is a terrible attempt at a haiku

+ generous benefits, pensions, etc.

xposts

let's bury Geraldo in Al Capone's vault

aren't cops in big cities paid pretty well? even rookie cops around here are paid more than 2x what i've ever made.

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, July 8, 2016 1:49 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it really varies i think like in ferguson which is a small department in the middle of a big city their cops werent making much over minimum wage

right, it varies pretty widely. but i don't think "poor pay" is a universal condition of being a cop that somehow helps explain the broad institutional problems.

Apparently this was really just one guy.

In most jurisdictions, cops are well-paid in the same sense that public school teachers are well-paid - good benefits, a decent middle-class/lower-middle-class income (before overtime and side-gigs for police). You won't starve but in urban areas it's not going to be easy.

Dallas PD had an issue a couple of years back about how few city cops could afford to live in the city itself if they wanted to raise a family.

some of the shitest dunmb assholes that i went to high school with are now cops

I think whoever had the idea to blow the shooter up with the bomb robot probably should have to answer some questions, definitely don't think that is good procedure, even if they had to act immediately

Whoever made that call probably could have a pretty good future in software development with ideas like that, though

someone tell the NY Times, they still had "two snipers" 20 mins ago

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