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Thanks so much guys, this is all really good info.

of course plenty of international students (tho for the most part expect they speak english.)

International students with English as a second or third language do often want extra tuition, as well as guidance in academic jargon, and they also (usually) have more money to spend on tutors than working immigrants. When I was doing my course I did think that I would like to specialise in academic tutoring and do a sideline in volunteer work for those who couldn't afford classes. Of course, things went to shit and I haven't used my qualification at all yet.

ailsa - no, not going this year. Just couldn't face it. I mean, I barely leave my flat at the moment so upping sticks and moving incredibly far away is kind of a ludicrous idea, but something has to change. Might as well be location.

emil.y, Friday, 8 July 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

You'd certainly get a lot out of the music scene here, I think. You have friends here, and I know people who have done what you're considering and it's worked out very well for them. I think it's a city that would suit you.

ailsa, Friday, 8 July 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

And I'll be sorry not to share late night beers and space-station-watching with you this year.

ailsa, Friday, 8 July 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

I'm also in Mount Florida - I think Cozen and I live on the same street as we often bump into each other - and it's a nice area, but yeah, you'd maybe want somewhere a little more central as a newbie.

A friend just got a 1bed in Govanhill for £300 pm (which is what I pay for a room in a 2 bed) and it's fine. But yeah, it's a bit of a crapshoot. The bit between the Queen's Park end of Victoria Road and Pollockshaws Rd is lovely though and still quite cheap. Also proximity to Allison Arms and Kurdish is a boon. Pollockshields/Queens Park would be my ideal location - handy for town and with its own community feel.

Shawlands I'm not quite as keen on, but it certainly has its nice bits, not least the 60s modular block. Glad Cafe is really good for gigs and there are fun places like the Ex Serviceman's Club which puts on indie and northern soul dance nights, as well as the odd gig.

Southside bias, but I kinda think the West End is over. There are no gigs there anymore - other than Laurie from Golden Teacher's infamous house gigs - and while it's got some nice places to eat and drink, I do feel it's lost something of its community feel. Perhaps there's also the thing of many of my friends having left the West End, so I don't find myself going over there all the time. Living in Woodlands or Maryhill is certainly handy if you're going to shows at Sleazys, the CCA, Art School etc but it's easy enough to get the nightbus south.

For arts subjects, Glasgow Uni is probably the place. And I say this as a recent graduate of Strathclyde! The latter has become increasingly business oriented - home of "useful" learning. Still a good English department, but you'll have more choice of people to work with at Glasgow.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

I would agree the West End is over - I've always thought of it as just a mix of students and false glamour, to be honest. When I lived outside Glasgow I would never feel it worth the extra effort to travel a few extra miles beyond the city centre for it.

Finnieston and Dennistoun both feel like they're undergoing strong changes and while I'm a fan I might find myself less drawn to them in the next few years. emil.y I don't think you're much of a clubber at all from what I've seen of you on ILX but _jed's monthly club night near Finnieston is really good if anyone else needs to be told that.

I've only been here a few months but I really like living in the Southside. Most places are better than where I was (Paisley) to be fair, but I feel like there's so many amenities right on my doorstep, and it's so quick and easy to get into the city centre. I like being able to wander up to a main road and find a gig on for a fiver any night that I'm bored. I'm not in Govanhill but I think it gets an unfair rep - the troubles and tensions are overplayed massively, and I have friend living on a notorious street who loves his flat as it has enough room for him to have a full band rehearse.

I went to Strathclyde Uni and I didn't particularly enjoy the student culture at it. It's been nearly ten years since I started my degree, but I always felt the prevailing lad culture in the union was unpleasant in a way I've never noticed when I've been the QM at Glasgow Uni. We didn't have a student radio either but Glasgow's is really good. I'll second the postiive words about the English Dept at Strathclyde too.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 9 July 2016 09:58 (seven years ago) link

I stay in Mount Florida too! I really like it here but there's not much of a music/pub scene nearby. It's a safe, quiet area with some really good parks nearby. I can highly recommend Queens Park, Kings Park, Pollok Park and Linn Park if you're into parks. There are good public transport links to the city centre (this applies to pretty much all of the southside) and you can cycle there in about 20 minutes or so. West End is cool for a visit but I wouldn't live there because it's expensive and there's a lot of hipster students around who make me feel old

The best areas in the southside are probably Mt Florida, Langside, Battlefield, Shawlands, Strathbungo, Pollokshields. The area around Paisley Road West (Cessnock, Kinning Park, Ibrox) is supposed to be pretty decent now too, it's an up and coming part of town I believe. I've got a pal who stays in Cessnock and he says it's cool

As mentioned above, SAMH is good for mental health advice. NHS services are about the same as other parts of the country as far as I know. Free/cheap counselling is also available from Lifelink and the Tom Allan Centre. There are quite a lot of private therapists available. You're probably aware of this, but the climate in Glasgow is pretty grim in winter especially and from November to February there's not much daylight at all.

paolo, Saturday, 9 July 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Overall, Glasgow is a great place to live if you can cope with the cold and rain :)

paolo, Saturday, 9 July 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

I've got a pal who stays in Cessnock and he says it's cool

Oh hi dere.
Obviously I like Cessnock/PRW a lot but I'm not completely certain I'd recommend it to someone moving to Glasgow for the first time. I think the prediction was that the developments at Pacific Quay with the BBC etc moving in would make it into an 'up and coming', trendier area like Dennistoun or Finniestoun but it hasn't exactly worked out that way; instead it's just a fairly normal, friendly, affordable area.
Lots of decent local shops and very good transport links into town but despite that can feel oddly cut-off/separate from the rest of the city, which is why I maybe wouldn't suggest it for a newcomer. Also there's the sectarian/aggressively blue-nosed aspects that go along with the proximity to Ibrox, which I've just got used to tuning out, but sometimes you stop & realise that e.g. a pub flying the red hand flag is not normal or OK.

I agree with everyone that most parts of the Southside are a good bet. Try Southside More :)

Option 1 : Do Nothing (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

https://youtu.be/k8WSDpz5-mk?t=2m28s

conrad, Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:31 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, I should have said the same about Dennistoun re. orange walks. They're pretty regular up Duke Street at certain times of year and the noise is a pita at 8am on a Saturday morning. And noise aside, the whole thing made me feel a bit uncomfortable.

Madchen, Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

That's one of my favourite Limmy sketches but I should point out that not everyone in Glasgow speaks like that :)

paolo, Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

Hi emil.y, I moved up to Glasgow from London almost exactly ten years ago and have never regretted the decision. Glasgow has got pretty much everything you'd want from a big urban city but as cozen says it is still relatively compact and is - maybe Buchanan Street on a Saturday apart - nowhere near as 'full on' as London. Transport links are fine pretty much whatever part of the city you're in, and taxis are cheap (unlike in other parts of Scotland, where they can be shockingly expensive eg Aberdeen). And if you do decide you want a break from urban life, there's some magnificent countryside very close by - Loch Lomond, for example, is less than an hour away by train, and quite a few of the bigger islands are reachable on a day trip.

Until about six months ago I lived in Dennistoun, and was on the whole pretty happy there, although the tenement block I was in got to be quite dilapidated and dirty, a consequence of different people moving in and out. You can easily walk into the centre of town from Dennistoun, there's lot of parks, charity shops and supermarkets all around you, and as Madchen says, the only drawback is a particularly strong Orange Order presence in the area. There are definitely some boozers I wouldn't care to go in, and a few places where I would be wary of walking round after dark (Haghill!), but in ten years up here I've never once been threatened or attacked.

I would strongly suggest you getting in touch with a housing association in an area that you like, if and when you do move up here; they would take into account your mental health issues when they assess your needs, and you would have guaranteed accommodation at a low price, and no private landlord.

Good luck.

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 9 July 2016 12:25 (seven years ago) link

as someone currently at the end of his tether with london and considering heading back up north this is all good information for me too...

maybe you'll be able to answer this stew (or maybe someone else will) - what's glasgow's ~intellectual community~ in the philosophy / critical theory / cultural studies etc area like? i don't expect the london standard of 100 people turning up to see someone talk about their latest book on structuralist temporalities or whatever, but it would be nice if there was something to latch onto.

Well, if I move there then you'll have at least one jaded philo/crit theorist friend.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

(Btw I never did get round to reading yr thesis, I just remembered. Will make that a priority read.)

emil.y, Saturday, 9 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

i have for a while been trying to persuade other jaded philo/crit theorist friends to make the glasgow move without being entirely serious about it myself, maybe it's finally time for us to be the vanguard

Intellectual community is pretty good. Helps if you're tuned into uni/art school networks of course, but there are quite a few public events at both Glasgow Uni and GSA that will end up on Eventbrite - guest speakers, artist talks etc.

The CCA often has artist talks as well as writing groups and screenings, while community spaces like Kinning Park Complex, Govanhill Baths etc have quite a lot going on.

Glasgow Women's Library is doing really brilliant things - recent speakers have included Lindy West and Carrie Brownstein - and they've got lots of workshops, reading groups etc.

There's also a new Glasgow Autonomous Space, so it'll be interesting to see what happens around that.

Activist networks are also really strong - even if you're not interesting in activism per se, it's well worth signing up to the Glasgow AFed mailing list to get updates on events.

Happy to join any phi/crit/cultural studies groups btw! I have been thinking it would be good to join some sort of reading group for that sort of thing now I've finished my PhD. Must be something out there along those lines.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, 9 July 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

Glasgow is less of a destination for English schools than Edinburgh or Brighton but it does have quite a few students, particularly at Glasgow Caledonian, who would have issues with academic English to some degree. Glasgow, rather than Edinburgh or Brighton, also has more of a market for English leading to citizenship / settlement which may be of interest. Going down that route, it would be worth looking into developing a familiarity with the UKVI IELTS and Trinity exams as that does tend to be what a lot of people are looking for help with.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 9 July 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

A bit tired for a full post right now, but I just wanted to give a wave from Dennistoun! I'm even a Haghill resident technically, but on the fringe, so I can actually leave the flat after darkness. :) I've been here for years and like it a lot.

I would concur with what everyone has said so far. I don't have any great fondness for the West End anymore, apart from usually heading that way when visitors come. Southside seems a lot more interesting nowadays. I love it, but I think Dennistoun maybe needs a wee while longer to really come into its own - changes are positive, but slow.

My mental health care experiences with the NHS in this area have been excellent also.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 10 July 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

back visiting next month for a week, nowhere near long enough. mon eh glesga.

jim in vancouver, Saturday, 16 July 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link

Was there for a paltry 5 days last week. Never enough time, despite it's size.

Gukbe, Saturday, 16 July 2016 08:37 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Our flat in Shawlands was robbed yesterday. Two laptops and a tablet stolen, and it seems to have been part of a spate of break-ins. Be vigilant, I wouldn't wish this on anybody.

boxedjoy, Friday, 26 August 2016 08:22 (seven years ago) link

:(

conrad, Friday, 26 August 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link

oh scott, i'm so sorry to hear that! were you insured? I mean it's awful either way.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 26 August 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

Oh, that's shit. I have a few friends round Shawlands way, I'll be sure to let them know.

ailsa, Friday, 26 August 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

I had been insured until last year. We were intending to set up a joint account to pay rent/insurance/etc that we never got around to doing. I'm more upset about losing all my photos and demos and files - my laptop had a dud battery and keys missing so the actual laptop isn't a great loss, it's just that it had basically all my life on it. His laptop was the opposite though - fairly new and a model worth over one thousand pounds. It had a fair amount of his own music on it though, including stuff for a gig a week today. It's a fucking nightmare. I've resigned myself to losing all my digital media stuff but I am desperately hoping to get the actual machines back.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

That's awful, sorry. I hope you do get them back.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

Jesus, that's terrible. I completely forget about the value in backing stuff up. A stark reminder. Is there anything any of us can do to help?

ailsa, Sunday, 28 August 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

I don't think so. I've been on ebay and Gumtree and all those Facebay pages religiously but nothing has turned up yet. Thanks though, I do really appreciate it.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 28 August 2016 08:19 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

worth a revive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIVkfCIunLc

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 26 February 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

Will never not be funny, that one.

Been a while since we failed to organise a Glasgow FAP, eh?

ailsa, Sunday, 26 February 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

We were in the same room on Tuesday, does that count?

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 26 February 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

I guess :-)

ailsa, Sunday, 26 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link

lol that Rangers fan is priceless! Coincidentally I just clicked on this while listening to a radio program about swearing.

calzino, Monday, 27 February 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Is that Peter capaldi in the balmore glazing ad? 1:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFoiJs7Injc

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 09:30 (seven years ago) link

that is not peter capaldi :)

conrad, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 09:52 (seven years ago) link

Is it not?

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 10:01 (seven years ago) link

aye that's definitely no capaldi

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

Definitely not.

ailsa, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

Reminds me more of Andrew "Andy" O'Brien:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_O'Brien_(EastEnders)

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

actor who played him was from my home town of uddingston

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

It's him, I tell you.

https://www.peter-capaldi-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Love-Child.jpg

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link

:)

conrad, Thursday, 2 March 2017 07:27 (seven years ago) link

I was just reading about it. Peter worked for Balmore Glazing and the guy who was cast didn't turn up on the day so PC had to fill in. It was how he got into showbiz.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 2 March 2017 08:13 (seven years ago) link

:)

conrad, Thursday, 2 March 2017 09:40 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

whit? it was actually capaldi?!

I'm going to be in the dear green place a week from now, the 6th, til the 15th. any culture happenings of note going on (other than celtic v kilmarnock which i will be attending)?

gimp in wankouver (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah also apart from counterflows, which i know about

gimp in wankouver (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Guy in the advert is George Drennan fae Kilmarnock.

everything, Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

knew it wisnae him

really specific from everything there

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

my mate told me his address. i thought "oh that's in queens park", then i google mapped it and saw it was in govanhill, and then i realized id just been thinking of the whole of govanhill as just an extension of queen's park.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link


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