Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

rapid fire shots in a tight urban environment would reverberate and could sound like multiple shooters firing at the same time

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i wonder to what extent cop dramas and films condition regular police officers to believe that their jobs are far more dangerous than they are. /notippergore

― Mordy, Friday, July 8, 2016 2:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hollywood def hangs heavy in the mind of authoritarian america, but also part of it is cops do have incredibly stressful and more dangerous than most jobs, they work literally in the field of violence, so its not much of a leap to overestimate how much their lives are in danger imo

cops returning fire plus ricochets/echoes?

doesn't seem that crazy to me that an army vet could do the shooting alone since there were a lot of cops to aim for and they were standing out in the open, and he was likely in a secluded position of defilade

+its a self aggrandizing belief so there u go xp self

hollywood def hangs heavy in the mind of authoritarian america, but also part of it is cops do have incredibly stressful and more dangerous than most jobs, they work literally in the field of violence, so its not much of a leap to overestimate how much their lives are in danger imo

i don't have the figures handy but i've definitely seen stats that suggest that there are many more dangerous jobs in america than law enforcement

7/11 clerk in bad neighborhood

I have a friend who will testify to that very assertion.

its not the most dangerous job but its def moreso than sitting at a desk, its also prob the most violent job xp

i would be willing to bet that's true but i think the constant possibility of violence (some of which is obv exacerbated or created by the presence of police!) makes it a form of psychological violence on the psyche of officers. much of this once again is completely self imposed and much of it comes w/training, like "be ready for anything".

conspiracy theories about a shooting in dallas seems natural

difference between violent vs. lethal i think

like garbage collector or fishingperson may be more lethal jobs than cop but neither requires you to violently subjugate people and be frequently present in situations of high animus, its just a fucked up brutal job that cannot be good for ones mental health has got to be a big part of the equation

and it is also relative to most jobs pretty dangerous

i mean im not looking to excuse any cops here they made their choices and have to live with their moral standing within our police state but to some extent theyre getting chewed up by that same sick system too

being brian williams is a v dangerous job iirc

some say the gunfire made him lose his mind

i mean if i had to be an instrument of oppression think id much rather be a prosecutor or judge

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm3LJxmWAAA97PY.jpg

was the robot bomb used cuz he was camping the spawn point

one guy was prob just like "you know what wld be some cool shit"

snopes confirmed second shooters are an urban myth

was the robot bomb used cuz he was camping the spawn point

― am0n, Friday, July 8, 2016 3:44 PM (3 minutes ago)

lolz

https://nplusonemag.com/issue-22/police/seeing-through-police/

i thought this was quite good. little sketch of a goffmanian micro-sociology of the police.

This Fucking Guy: http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-ambush/2016/07/08/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-calls-dallas-protesters-hypocrites-running-snipers-bullets

https://nplusonemag.com/issue-22/police/seeing-through-police/

i thought this was quite good. little sketch of a goffmanian micro-sociology of the police.

― j., Friday, July 8, 2016 3:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great piece!

What an asshole. Even the governor, who's also a big asshole, had a fairly level-headed response by comparison. Really makes it painful to live when I consider that the people around me willfully vote for these shit heads, not to mention John Cornyn and Ted Cruz. What a rogue's gallery of awfulness.

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This Fucking Guy: http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-ambush/2016/07/08/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-calls-dallas-protesters-hypocrites-running-snipers-bullets

― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain)

Sentiments like this have helped me purge my Facebook page quite nicely.

Painful to live here, that is

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I hope Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick bravely resists the pull of his misunderstood definition of hypocrisy the next time someone demonstrates how amazingly punchable his face is.

i wonder to what extent cop dramas and films condition regular police officers to believe that their jobs are far more dangerous than they are. /notippergore
― Mordy, Friday, July 8, 2016 1:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i imagine the grind of the job, day-in day-out probably gives them a more specific sense of this…. that’s like asking "i wonder to what extent welcome back, mr. kotter conditions high-school teachers to believe that their jobs are far more fun than they are."

(er, typo in name of tV show, but you get the idea)

i adore the show welcome back mr kotter i trust youve been well

read a secondhand comment by an ex-police officer that made the point that a lot of police forces have had an influx of recruits returning from iraq/afghanistan

i'd imagine the daily events of that job, where you're in uniform with a gun, might carry some mental weight

i disagree. i think the teacher analogy is bizarre but more importantly what we have are at least a certain percentage of police officers whose relationship to reality and the citizens they are responsible for is out of touch with reality - out of touch with the day-in day-out grind. i would not be surprised to learn that it is heavily informed by fictional media.

that's to am xp

you know i've never thought to ask my teacher relatives how the "welcome back kotter" tv series has affected their jobs. maybe i should start!

that n+1 essay posted upthread is v good

Nuclear power plant employees adore the Simpsons

maybe cnn.com could get rid of the 3 line headline and the black background now, for fuck's sake

they live for this shit

if it bleeds it meets their needs

cnn anchors really need to start cutting on camera

not sure this was noted

"Stocks for Smith & Wesson rose about 3% on Friday while stocks for fellow firearm manufacturer Sturm Ruger went up by 5%. The shares surged in anticipation of higher gun sales due to fears of stricter gun control policies following the worst mass shooting of police in US history.

In addition to shares of gunmakers, shares of Taser and Digital Ally also surged on the news. The two companies make wearable video cameras worn by US police, and Taser also makes electroshock weapons used by some police."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/08/smith-wesson-gun-stock-market-dallas-shooting

some day these ppl gonna get tired of buying guns after every newsworthy shooting "i already have 25 guns" theyre gonna say to themselves

what's the exchange rate between guns and black lotus cards

Food vs. Guns

slightly irritated that the guardian (and prob other sites) still have the headline they had in the morning, about the sniper wanting to kill white people/officers. were there any headlines reading similar things about the racist things police officers said? seems a bit unnecesarily inflammatory.

"The deceased suspect has been identified as Micah Johnson, B/M/25. The suspect has no criminal history. Information provided through the course of the investigation, indicates that the suspect was an Army veteran and others have identified him as a loner. The suspect’s Facebook account included the following names and information: Fahed Hassen, Richard GRIFFIN aka Professor Griff, GRIFFIN embraces a radical form of Afrocentrism, and GRIFFIN wrote a book A Warriors Tapestry.

so this is professor griff's fault. I knew it.

and others have identified him as a loner.

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