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The one thing that I will say in favor of Harvard is that it wasn't just a trade school; that's really the advantage (and disadvantage) of the elite schools.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

los angeles.

theres a grip of legal placement agencies. i used kelly legal. they seem to place alot of people with big firms. or at least my own firm. which is big.

if youre up north in the bay area, try landmark legal. nice people.

thats the beauty of the legal profession. you dont have to do half the work you would trying to find other kinds of work. i got my job here after being unemployed for 5 weeks a year and a half ago when the economy was SHIT-TAY. paralegaling is kind alike nursing in that respect. quite recession-proof.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

for paralegals, yes it's that easy. for lawyers, not so. that's where my bitching about credentials-snobs and in-firm recruitment people comes into play.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

and law-school career services people ... oh god, when the Revolution comes those motherfuckers will be the 1st against the wall. well, law school deans (or a certain law school dean) will be 1st, but after that ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

thats also where going to harvard comes into play. they bascially hand you over the keys to the city when you graduate from there.. and yale. 'cept thats the keys to the presidency.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

harvard, yale ... also: stanford, penn, nyu, chicago, virginia, cornell.

others that'll get you far: michigan, vanderbilt, georgetown.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

If only that were true, Bill. They give you the keys to BIGLAW CITY; anything else you have to dig and scrape and fight for just as hard as anybody else.

And Ivy Leaguers have gotten laid off from BIGLAW in the last few years, and I am informed that positions are much harder to come by.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

rumor has it that ivy league-law schools also have tire-pumps on the graduation stand, so as to inflate the grads' egos ... (colin excepted of course)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

As an attorney in the entertainment racket, you can expect to have clients that are much more demanding and unrealistic than your everyday non-celebrity clients--which takes some doing. Also, most of your time will be spent poring over dull contract language at 10:00 pm while your client is out at the club pouring Crystal. It isn't as glamorous as you might think.

Pick up one of those books about what you can do with a legal degree besides practice law, and you'll see very quickly that most of those things involve having some other type of experience that you can supplement with a law degree--or else they are even more mind-numbing than being an attorney (employee benefits coordinator, for example). Are there people with law degrees who went on to other fun, exciting non-legal careers? Sure. Same with MBAs, MAs, PhDs, or any other graduate degree. John Grisham was an attorney--but getting a law degree doesn't qualify you to become a best-selling author unless you already have the requisite talent and discipline.

What are you doing now, Colin? Did you cash out of some NY Biglaw firm and move on to calmer, smaller pastures, or did you leave law in general?

― webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

I did not know that about the ivy league. BIGLAW sucks too - from an attorney's standpoint. staff is another thing.. only big complaint is that they shaft staff in favor of partners.

theres one lawyer at our firm whose making it work for him tho. this past year he's billed something like 700 hours, all the while raking in 6 figure salary. he'll be politely let go in a couple more months and then he can probably ease into something else that suits him.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

after i graduated and before i paralegaled (and eventually i went to l-school), i spent a year-and-a-half as a benefits administrator. you DEFINITELY don't need a law degree for that shit! (damn, stay in and master ERISA and benefits law in general [shit almost NO-ONE wants to touch] and you'll ALWAYS eat!!)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

Heh. I'm halfheartedly studying Employee Benefits (Retirement Plans) now, as I post. Instead of being a nice fluffy last semester, it's turning out pretty shit as a result of this statutory morass.

― webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

i got some of my best l-school grades in my Employee Benefits & Qualified Plans Taxation classes. then again, i'm twisted.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago) link

but yeah, ERISA is one of the most fucked-up statutes out there ... and then there's the attendant case-law and regs.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

(files away knowledge of Eisbar's employee benefits expertise for future reference in 3 month's time)

― webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

For now I'm completely out, but I'm keeping my license current.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...

OK, I've finished, so what do I do now?!

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

congratulations!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 10:36 (nineteen years ago) link

what the hell is a 'graduate recruitments officer'? I don't want to be one of them, I don't think.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

You could party.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Dear Lawyers/Future Lawyers of ILX,

Try not to be assholes.

Thanks,
adam.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

You are totally going to get sued.

― n.a. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll try.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm thinking of going to law school

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I sometimes think about it. but less and less these days.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I just started two weeks ago. It's friggin' hard, especially on top of a day job. But I'm liking it so far.

― mike a, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm in my second year of law school. it is VERY HARD. but i like it and it's the first time ever in my life that i feel like i fit in.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://anonymouslawyer.blogspot.com/

― anonymous poster, Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimages.com/wieck_preview_page_048714

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't know what to do with my life. is this it?

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

do you like money?

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

hi dere

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

hi dere
i am in der law office

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost no i hate money!

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (power.strik...), January 8th, 2005 are you the anonymous lawyer? I enjoy your writings!

― anonymous poster, Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

the anonymous lawyer is in fact a law student.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I AM IN DER LAW FIRME RITE NOW!

I just ate a burrito in a major law firm!

Next to documents!

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

PLEASE DO NOT DROP BEAN ON DER DOCUMENTARIOS

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I managed to be safe, but I do plan on spilling my latte on my keyboard later.

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I should talk to Cozen about this.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I work for a judge. Power!

― ai lien (kold_krush), Sunday, 9 January 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I managed to be safe, but I do plan on spilling my latte on my keyboard later.

Ok, I lied. I actually ended up spilling Pellegrino on my printer. Good times.

― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Sunday, 9 January 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

there is a philadelphia BIGLAW firm known as COZEN. so the fact that ILX's own COZEN wants to be a lawyer has always kinda amused me.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 9 January 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Dean, do the other lawyers find you funny?

― .adam (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought about going to law school earlier on this thread, but really, fuck that!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

pussy.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

sue me!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 January 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

for how long does one need to study before taking the LSAT? on average?

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Sunday, 12 June 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

BUMP where is lawyers? i want to talk about lawyering.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

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