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Pretending no one has ever been black and gay before isn't? Almost completely avoiding talking about the music isn't? x-post.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes its a dreadful article and yes it mostly ignores the record and yes its condescending but surely going "oh, he's a bit like this other guy who was black and gay and in an indie band none of you have heard of" is only going to make it more so. Are they supposed to be kindred spirits or something?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Well arguably there's big musical similarities between BP and LFK too, especially LFK's third album when they had a different drummer (who Matt Tong is similar too) - both could certainly be described as "artrock". Given the article's hang-up on Kele's lyrics being about his sexuality then Sutherland's a touchstone for that too. They've got more similarities than dreadlocks and fancying blokes, and I think "here's another intelligent, educated, gay black man singing in an artrock band with postpunk influences only he's from Scotland and therefore didn't get 10% of the media frenzy you've had" would be an interesting angle. Much more interesting than "please say you're gay; oh your new album's great by the way (and would be even greater if you said you were gay, please)".

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

You're reaching, Nick. LFK ain't that relevant, or interesting.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Um I think LFK's coming from Scotland was a pretty small factor in their obscurity, against (a) the fact they were a lot more weird and full on than Bloc Party have ever been and (b) they were around at the apogee of Britpop

― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My entire motivation here is that I listened to Cassidy by Bows on Saturday night, thoroughly enjoyed it, thought "Isn't Luke Sutherland a genius" again, and then read this...

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

In turn I'm gonna try and listen to 'Valentino' later, so all's well thatzzzzzz

― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

God, wasn't that piece just so terribly subtle.

"Yes, Kele might be...BLACK and GAY!!!1!!"

― SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

haha you know why the dumb white indie kidz listen to party block? so they can say "oh i listen to BLACK PEOPLE MUSIC and so i am not a racism" without listening to hip hop ahahahaha
-- ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (estebanbuttezforeve...), September 17th, 2005.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That comment may needed a little editing.

― SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

buttez is dead and so are his iffy soundbites

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

not so louis jagger :0(

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

if i was being generous that zing would receive 1.3 out of 10

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Enrique dude you just got pwned by Louis Jagger.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

In time, Louis will start pwning more and more of us, as we get old, and our reactions slow, and he learns from the collected wisdom of the archives.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis, if you were black and gay do you think your life would have taken a different route?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have probably been successfully stalked by the Lex by now.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i have retreated from the field, bloodied.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I was thinking of setting up a new "lol britpop" thread this afternoon, but Louis has just guaranteed another 200 posts to this thread.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, what did you expect me to say? As a hypothetical question it was a pretty stunning failure!

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have probably been successfully stalked by the Lex by now.

This means you'd succumb to his insideous Somerset homosexual advances?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

what makes the hottest fan fiction/slash fiction?

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Look, Nick, I still haven't forgiven you for sharing a name with the man who's beaten Charlton in the FA Cup with BOTH Gillingham AND Notts forest.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Much better thread...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I made the "black and gay" jokes with Dom, AGES AGO. Sheesh.

― SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

sweet baby jesus, that thread. i was looking for it, but not very hard. and indeed, the latest addition to it mentions me. *shakes head*

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

that piece was good. yeah so it doesnt talk about the muuuuusic (maaaan) that much but how is it a bad thing for race representation of black artists in the media to focus on kele being black, gay and an indie rocker? i welcome more people like kele being open about that sort of thing. it didnt do that to the point of excluding other things like the london-focus of the album.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"black, gay and an indie rocker? i welcome more people like kele being open about that sort of thing"

24 carat gold

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

good to know we can have openly black pop performers in the oh-seven.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Openly indie-rock performers too.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Kele is a pretty sucky vocalist.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, you guys are right. there are just TONS of black artists that are openly gay out there. nothing unusual about kele at ALL.

yeah he is a shit singer.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Tsk.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i suggest more falsetto ala matt bellamy lolz

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh how I wanted to like this. Hope the leak isn't what's released.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"Cassidy" is a really great record. "Uniroyal" is one of my favorite songs of all time. And I kept thinking of the Bows singer when I first heard this new Bloc Party record, never once putting the "black and gay" pieces together. But in retrospect, yeah, there's that, too.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

oh maaaaan! that picture! thats crap compared to the original! its looks too much like the streets one he did. what are they thinking ??

― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Bizarrely, The Daily Express review of this today describes it, in the opening line, as "A neat little follow up". I don't imagine that's quite what BP had in mind...

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 February 2007 10:12 (seventeen years ago) link

'i still remember' is fantastic, easily their best song so far.
it's possibly because the singer doesn't feel the need to suddenly go all deep on us and sing "we...bury..ourSELVES.in.the.GARDEN" or whatever the fuck.

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

This album contains some of the worst lyrics I've heard for some time.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i have googled the lyrics and they are amazingly, unspeakably bad.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, there are some amazingly clunky lyrics, and i've been trying to avoid listening to them, and certainly haven't read any of them, so can only imagine how bad they are.

the album is growing on me, though - and I saw them live last night and they were *fantastic*, new songs and all.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I think most of their singles have been pretty decent so far! Maybe not 'Pioneers' though, cursed by obvious & searingly over-earnest lyrics as it is...

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like "I Still Remember".

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 February 2007 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's pretty soppy and sentimental and middle-of-the-road and I'd never call it "easily their best song so far", but I can't think of anything making it hugely un-likeable.

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Note; that's not "I hate it", just "I don't like it". Lack of like, not presence of dislike.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

calling southall: REPLY TO BUMPED EMBRACE THREAD

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

CALLING JAGGER: REPLY TO BUMPED LONG FIN KILLIE THREAD.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

This album contains some of the worst lyrics I've heard for some time.

OTM - I am currently trying to Google the lyrics to the b-side (cheap shot, maybe) of the 'Prayer' single. They are mind-blowing, seriously.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 2 February 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't remember the title, but he screams "Staring into my coffee!
It is not black! Just a shade of brown!" really dramatically.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 2 February 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

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