yeah the comparison only goes so far. one is a comedy, the other is deadly serious.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link
I feel guilty now for just thinking the house-smashing scene was ridic and hilarious.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:20 (seven years ago) link
can this thread be a safe space for us to Lol at problematic show we like in peace? is that so much to ask?
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
so far 2 ways this differs from eastbound
-way darker. Kenny powers was an egomaniac but ultimately a good guy. Goggins is just pure vengeful evil from the get-go.. and he's dragging mcbride down with him-less Actual Jokes, particularly the imagist innovations-in-vulgarity which were sprinkled across eastbound every minute (was recently fondly remembering 'he looks like a bag of mashed up assholes' from the first ep)
best moment in e2 was when they were making faces at each other while the principal was leading a prayer
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
otm on both pts
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
can this thread be a safe space for us to Lol at problematic show we like in peace? is that so much to ask?― flopson, Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sounds like a pretty boring thread tbh
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
so... don't post in it
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
*watches taxi driver*ugh, the way this guy hates women and gay people is not good to me, its sad. i don't think its a good movie period. if viewers think "omg this guy is a moron" that's a valid viewpoint but so is "haha those people he shot got what was coming to them."i'd rather watch a movie about a politician inspiring a town to come together and fighting for better outpatient treatment for people with mental illness.― woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 02:41 (14 hours ago) Permalink
ugh, the way this guy hates women and gay people is not good to me, its sad. i don't think its a good movie period. if viewers think "omg this guy is a moron" that's a valid viewpoint but so is "haha those people he shot got what was coming to them."
i'd rather watch a movie about a politician inspiring a town to come together and fighting for better outpatient treatment for people with mental illness.
― woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 02:41 (14 hours ago) Permalink
Hey Sterling go fuck yourself.
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
hey just wanna make sure this is a discussion happening in 2016th year of our lord
theres a show where two white dudes get passed over for a promotion by a black woman and then they destroy her things then burn her house down. is that right?
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
yes... now pls leave us alone
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
xp. also a lot of the "funny" lines are McBride calling people gay.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
omg.. i fn hate you ppl
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
cool bro
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link
xxxposts Counterpoint: beautiful post, s. clover.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Some of you guys are really bad at understanding comedy but I'm sure there is gentle comedy out there for you if you look hard enough.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
countercounterpoint: most comedy is terrible and regressive, sorry i cant find it in my heart to yuck it up at racial terrorism
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Here's a hint: successful black woman principal isn't the butt of the joke here. Also, McBride & Goggins are the protagonists but they are not meant to be sympathetic protagonists. Discuss.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link
clearly not capable of discussion
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
the reactions to finding this a bit iffy/not that funny sure are "interesting"
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
Like yes this is some trying-to-be 'edgy' evil white guy shit that tries to have it both ways (too-)subtly satirizing dumb racists but also reveling in immature laughter at offensive jokes, yes it's about Bad people who nonetheless have small pathetic chaotic triumphs of petty acts of evil set to pumped up music, yes probably some trump assholes or internet trolls *relate* to McBride's character in a creepy way... YOU GOT ME. now leave us alone!
https://whitegirlsbelike.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/kenny-powers-moped-gif.gif
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
I'm somewhat sympathetic with the viewpoint that a portrayal of reactionary white dudes who behave like eight-year-olds when they don't get what they want is sorta NAGL in the Age of Trump, but I think for me that's because they just happen to be more inescapable these days. Sociopathic dickholes (when presented as such rather than as heroes to be cheered on) are perennial comedy fodder for me.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:17 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
im sure u thought this was some emasculating burn here, but I LIKE GENTLE HUMOR and im not sure why that should be an insult or a refutation to me thinking this is fucked up.
is it possible that you dont think this is a fucked up ground for laughs bc you cant see yourself being the object of mcbride/hill's "ironic" bigotry?
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i agree that it's not as funny as Eastbound (kind of a black comedy western) and said as much above, my reaction is to ppl who *Dont Even Like Comedy* (wtf??? you don't like laughter??) trying to Stinkpiece it up in our thread
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
xxxp the fragility of your enjoyment of this show (I also enjoy this show) to that line of discussion and the resulting defensiveness could actually work as part of this show
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
wrong # of xps, but it probably belongs in 'posts I had second thoughts about' anyway
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Some of you guys are really bad at understanding comedy but I'm sure there is gentle comedy out there for you if you look hard enough.― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:17 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkim sure u thought this was some emasculating burn here, but I LIKE GENTLE HUMOR and im not sure why that should be an insult or a refutation to me thinking this is fucked up.is it possible that you dont think this is a fucked up ground for laughs bc you cant see yourself being the object of mcbride/hill's "ironic" bigotry?― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:28 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:28 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think The Office proves that many people can be the object of an idiots terribleness and still enjoy laughing at a caricature of that idiot on TV
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link
itt bunch of dudes being petty and shitty to each other and it's not as funny as i hoped it would be
imo perfect analogy for vice principals keep going
xxxp goddamnit beat me to it
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:28 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I do have a history of engaging in emasculating burns, it's true, you caught me.
I like gentle humor, too. Agreement! I also like humor that is not so gentle, but I do not like humor that "punches down". This does not read to me like humor that is "punching down". Neither does it read to me like "ironic bigotry".
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
― veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thank you... now STFU ;-)
― flopson, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
ilx demands you respect the genius comedy auteur Jody Hill who is incapable of terrible bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-N3F1FhW4
― Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
FTR, I didn't think this was comedic genius but I basically love watching Danny McBride for ad libbed moments like saying 'Tacks' while throwing a handful of tacks at someone so this scratched the itch.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
just FYI for my gentle comedy bros, detectorists is really great.and fyi to the peeps who think that someone must not understand humor and satire to think this is unfunny and toxic -- think harder about things.
and nowhttp://https%3A//cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/18449008.jpg
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
needs more david gordon green
...or then again maybe it doesn't, i watched every episode of chozen :/
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
aw my meme didn't post.it was a lousy meme anyway.
ian it is good to see u itt
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
hey m bison, since i don't have the game of thrones thread to read anymore i guess i've come to be a party pooper on this thread but imma just go back to my 78 groups on facebook and the occasional ILX thread about crime novels.
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
thank u for your kind words.
lol Game of Thrones is less "problematic" than this show?! gtfo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
pooping on parties is a good example of gentle humor. mr rogers had an episode abt it once and its stuck w me ever since.
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I suppose there's always a danger in centering a story around unsympathetic protagonists without clearly establishing that the audience isn't meant to side with them. I hope Grisham doesn't catch wind of this show.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
shakey -- game of thrones has tons of problems, but it also has a whole lot more to offer. great (piss poor) comparison, as with taxi driver.
old lunch -- it's nothing new or exciting to have asshole protagonists. i just think this show revels in its cruelty and its hate and it makes it unpleasant to watch. enjoy your hateful and spiteful entertainment.
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
~peace~
― ian, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
namaste
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
ian my man i get you, i can understand how this type of comedy can be at least a little wearying or depressing. i think JH might be going for that a little bit but then again his style of humor isn't quite mine either.
― nomar, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
Rats, shakey beat me to the 'namaste'.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
I want to sit and rewatch the two episodes that have aired with the critics itt and ask them, okay, please show me the rampant hate and cruelty and spite if you don't mind, just point it out when it happens, I'll wait.
― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
― ian, Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hey buddy i don't go onto your threads about asmr self-help videos and fill them up with anime harambe memes
― woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
wtf
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
some weird beefs itt