I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

September 2015 - November 2016: In a coma

Trump is also expected to propose creating a new, ideological test for admission to the country that would assess a candidate's stances on issues like religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. Through questionnaires, searching social media, interviewing friends and family or other means, applicants would be vetted to see whether they support American values like tolerance and pluralism.

Can we make this test retroactive to people who are already here?

nothing says tolerance and pluralism like "ideological test for admission to the country"

also apparently a pillar of trump's domestic anti-terorrism platform is the honor system

Yeah, that's the most obvious WTF out of this steaming pile of WTF. But I guess we're living on Bizarro Earth now and Trump supporters probably consider themselves hugely tolerant and engaged in fervent celebration of all peoples.

xpost

Although, yes, honor system is pretty glaringly WTF.

All potential immigrants will be fitted with a mood ring which will determine their love of American values.

that questionnaire is on about the same level as some of the push polls done by partisan groups close to election time

I put a valid email in, but used the gmail trick where you can add a + and additional text to your address. Curious what kind of spam the Trump campaign will sell my address to.

(for anyone wanting to do something similar on any site, you do myaddress+whatever @ gmail dot com)

nothing says tolerance and pluralism like "ideological test for admission to the country"

― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, August 15, 2016 1:23 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really expanding upon with this oldie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tykzAyISnNk

why not just make up a fake email? xp

dammit

https://youtu.be/tykzAyISnNk

huh, this sounds familiar... wonder where i've heard it before?

The last month or so of Trump-Hillary coverage may have been the worst stretch of pure journo-shilling we've seen since the run-up to the Iraq war. In terms of political media, there’s basically nothing left on the air except Trump-bashing or Hillary-bashing.

because I want to see who Trump's campaign is selling addresses to, and when?

xp

I think he means a secondary email address. Assuming you don't want fundraising emails from Omarosa and the UFC promotional department going to your primary email address.

xp how are you going to know tho? i guess i'm asking - what does adding the + sign do if it isn't just a way of avoiding getting spammed?

Trump Steaks 4ev

oh nevermind i understand. it'll come in with the + sign so you can trace the sale. got it.

I honestly try to not wish ill on others, but I genuinely hope I live to see Trump reduced to like Grey Gardens status.

I wonder what it's like to listen to Ivanka and Wendi

i've been on trumpmail for a month now. not getting any other weird spam yet... somehow got signed up for some rural north carolina republican newspaper, maybe related

Aside from the murmuring about the Clinton Foundation, I honestly don't think I've been aware of a single news story about Clinton from like the past two weeks. Trump is SO BAD at this.

@jessicaschulb
Rudy Giuliani: Before Obama came along we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack inside the United States."

maybe he means 'before obama was born'

damn we should be talking about Giuliani's health not Hillary's, tf is wrong with his brain

rudy giuliani forgetting 9/11 has got to be the sound of one of the seals opening

haha

also just apparently forgot what state he was in

Aside from the murmuring about the Clinton Foundation, I honestly don't think I've been aware of a single news story about Clinton from like the past two weeks.

Crooked Hillary in cahoots w/Crooked Media! Sad! Not A Fan! Crooked!

rudy giuliani forgetting 9/11 has got to be the sound of one of the seals opening

― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, August 15, 2016 1:39 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of surprised he didn't just vaporize into mist and float into nothing on the wind the moment the words were uttered tbh

Why hasn't someone hacked his phone and like disabled his "r" key or something subtle yet?

re this whole 'the polls are wrong' meme - every time i try to think of difficult to quantify elements that might mean the polls are off, they're always in hillary's favor. the shy trump theory is dubious. polling could be undercounting spanish speaking voters and youth voters but those are both non-trump constituencies. third party candidates might be skewing the results, but from what i've seen they're taking more from hillary than from trump. likely voters model could be underestimating ppl's motivations to get out and vote, but that works at the very least both ways (and also probably more in anti-trump's favor). i don't see how any intelligent person could think that the polls are systemically undercounting trump's support. i guess 'intelligent person' is the operative phrase there.

Referring to Trump tweeting

xp

is rudy trying to get with katrina pierson or something

Laura Ingraham

*cringe*

#ThumbPenise2016

i don't see how any intelligent person could think that the polls are systemically undercounting trump's support.

― Mordy, Monday, August 15, 2016 1:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

an intelligent person would probably also at least entertain/evaluate the occam's razor explanation that trump is behind in the polls because fewer people support him than his opponent

i think rudy just outed Cheney as the true 9/11 architect tbh, shit just got real

re this whole 'the polls are wrong' meme - every time i try to think of difficult to quantify elements that might mean the polls are off, they're always in hillary's favor. the shy trump theory is dubious. polling could be undercounting spanish speaking voters and youth voters but those are both non-trump constituencies. third party candidates might be skewing the results, but from what i've seen they're taking more from hillary than from trump. likely voters model could be underestimating ppl's motivations to get out and vote, but that works at the very least both ways (and also probably more in anti-trump's favor). i don't see how any intelligent person could think that the polls are systemically undercounting trump's support. i guess 'intelligent person' is the operative phrase there.

the biggest thing about this to me is that you've got one candidate saying "If I lose, then we will have a president who thinks you don't belong in this country" and the other saying "If I lose, then the election was probably rigged" - not hard to figure out which message is going to be better at getting out the vote

an intelligent person would probably also at least entertain/evaluate the occam's razor explanation that trump is behind in the polls because fewer people support him than his opponent

The empirical proof that backs this up is "I have not seen a single Crooked sign, and every day see more and more Trump signs. Even in Democratic areas.
I have lived in this state my whole life and never seen this much enthusiasm for a GOP candidate."

From a guy in New Jersey - these are not intelligent people.

i guess what i was trying to say really is that scott adams is embarrassingly stupid.

Donald Trump proposed on Monday a new ideological test for all Muslim immigrants and visitors to this country, allowing entry only to “those who support our values.”

“Those who support bigotry and hatred” will not be admitted to the United States, said Trump. “Only those we expect to flourish in this country and to embrace a tolerant American society should be issued visas.”

The proposal, which the campaign said also draws its precedent from Reagan-era presidential proclamations prohibiting the entry of illegal migrants by sea, was part of a speech that Trump delivered Monday in Ohio outlining his plan to “Combat Radical Islamic Terror.”

The plan also includes previously announced initiatives to temporarily suspend visas from Muslim-majority countries and others with a “history” of exporting terrorists until there are new procedures and it is “safe to resume.”

scott adams is embarrassingly stupid

how could this be? he belonged to mensa!

Potential immigrants who hate America are unfailingly candid about their hatred.

Also lolololololol:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-leads-trump-breitbart-poll

ahahaha

Breitbart plans to release more 2016 polls in partnership with Gravis, a Florida-based marketing firm that has a less than stellar record of tracking state congressional races. In the 2014 midterm elections, Gravis published polls that were way off in predicting the results of Senate races in Kentucky and Texas. An “informed ballot” survey conducted by Gravis this spring was mocked for getting a Maryland congressional race wrong by 96 percentage points

Margin of error +/- 96 points

I'm sure the poll was accurate in the alternate reality from which it came, the magical place where many conservatives live

breitbart poll as demonstration of the irreconcilable conflict between one's chosen opinion and one's chosen set of facts