I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

Stone is like people who think that because vinyl is selling more than it has in twenty years the music industry will soon return to some pre-Napster idyll.

Stone and the rest of Nixon's administration were big fans of the media back in the golden days.

Which of course leads to this, from an upcoming piece by Oliver Darcy for Business Insider, from an interview with right-wing radio guy Charlie Sykes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp2BSvnXYAA84Ch.jpg

“I get a little bit of a smile when I see at night … when journalists take a look and essentially acknowledge that they’re reading these and that they’re paying attention,” Miller said. “Our goal in this is to call attention to what we see as the most extreme examples of media bias with an effort of making folks think twice about everything from story placement to fairness.”

and these journos will smile when your crew gets fucking smoked in november and you're unemployable

Roger Stone-

Roger Stone and Robert Morrow's book The Clintons' War On Women is dedicated to and repeatedly cites research from Victor Thorn, who wrote The Holocaust Hoax Exposed and blames a "Jewish plot" for the 9/11 attacks

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/11/13/anti-clinton-authors-dedicated-their-book-to-a/206837

in other news, baby thing was one case where Trump had a point (which doesn't negate the millions of other idiotic things he has said)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-accurately-says-media-wrong-he-kicked/

its hard to get a sense where this turd is joking, lying, telling the truth, etc since everything that comes out of his mouth is garbage

and these journos will smile when your crew gets fucking smoked in november and you're unemployable

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:55 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i always find it amusing when the party that fetishes gun ownership and currently has a Presidential nominee who resorts to intimidation and bully tactics turn into whiny 11 year old boys when it comes to the media and its perceived lack of "fairness"

Someone should make a Trump speak version lorem ipsum generator.

I don't think Trump is that close with Latino voters in most polls. Seems like they've been showing Hillary at 80%+ most of the time.

the point of that tweet is not that trump is doing well with hispanics. it's that nationally he's doing no worse than the last two republican nominees.

the florida poll says "This time, Trump may fare as badly with Hispanics in Florida as he does nationally, potentially spelling doom for his chances" but that poll suggests the "may" in this sentence turns out not to be true.

sorry "the florida article you linked to says", and the "poll i linked to" suggests

i cannot write today

Caveats:

1) Always a blowhard.
2) A month ago, Moore was gravely warning everyone that not only could Trump win, he was going to.

But this is not all that far away from where I am in trying to figure out the last three weeks. Can't tell if the "inside information" stuff is meant to be true or heavy-handed satire.

http://michaelmoore.com/TrumpSabotage/

who the hell is "don" in the post script? draper?

Donald Trump never actually wanted to be President of the United States. I know this for a fact. I’m not going to say how I know it.

Great intro

3 more months guys. soon enough we will all be delivered from this nightmare.

xp reading comprehension fail I am the dumbest person ever

i hate how the word "bias" is used as a scare word by people who don't even know what it means

ppl think the new york times makes shit up all the time or something.

You're bias.

http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m75ogxN3Bo1qajugo.jpg

trump is doing well with hispanics. it's that nationally he's doing no worse than the last two republican nominees.

Right, and I'm saying I don't think that's accurate. The Florida poll was one, other national polls are putting Hillary at 80+ and Trump in the 10-12 range with Johnson at 5-6. That's much worse than Republicans ever do.

Trump is not doing well with Hispanics.

trump is not doing well with hispanics. he's not doing unusually badly. he's not going to lose texas.

romney lost hispanics by 44. most recent national poll i can find (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2016/08/11/fox-news-latino-poll-clinton-holds-46-point-lead-over-trump-among-hispanics/) has trump losing them by 46. unless this gets significantly worse (and it's difficult, verging on on mathematically impossible,to see how it could), hillary cannot win states like tx this time unless she increases hispanic turnout by an implausibly large amount.

*worse = worse for trump

In a text message exchange with Yahoo on Tuesday, Miller described his appearance on the show as “one big media bias offender segment.” He also suggested the campaign’s focus on the story was one reason the campaign didn’t send any new “BIAS OFFENDER” emails in recent days. He promised the next one will come this evening.

“There was so much attention to the issue between myself and Mr. Trump that I found a press release to be anticlimactic,” Miller wrote. “I would expect to see a new one today. Believe me.”

Miller ended his message with a smiley face emoji.

I mean, it is plausible that Hispanic turnout will be higher than usual this year since one of the candidates is running on anti-Hispanic racism. Not saying that will be enough to flip Texas, mind you!

Not enough to flip Texas but enough to turn Florida blue despite the closeness of our state polls.

back of the envelope: if vote share by race stays the same, and turnout for every group except hispanics stays the same (which is probably not true but assume they are for an order of magnitude estimate), to flip tx solely by increasing hispanic turnout, you'd need an extra ~1.5m hispanic voters to turn out.

last time 1.7m (44% or 3.8m) turned out, so we're talking about roughly doubling the number of hispanic voters who turn out, and raising the rate at which hispanic voters turn out to well above white voters.

yeah florida is another matter xp

This is my pledge to the American people: as your President I will be your greatest champion. I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally.

We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all its forms, and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people.

-Donald J. Trump

Roger Ailes and the new Trump (shelf-life, maybe an hour or two).

http://cdn.historycommons.org/images/events/a999ailesnixon_2050081722-39731.jpg

That'll last until the next time a minority is unjustly killed by the police and he is forced to reassert his devotion to "law and order"

Trump could piss on the Alamo and still win Texas.

"he was being sarcastic!"

I enjoy peeing sarcastically

re: Hispanic polling - Texas isn't going to flip this time, I didn't know anyone was seriously talking about that. I'm just saying that nationally he's not doing as well as the Tweet above and I'd bet a ton of money that Hillary gets 80% of the vote (vs 73 for Obama in 2012) if not more.

The state where Hispanic turnout moving to that 80-85% range and turning out at a higher rate could flip it is Arizona.

The speech Trump is giving right now was supposed to be a disciplined, teleprompter-guided* response to the violence in Milwaukee, and it sort of was for a while, but he's rambling on about the crooked system right now. (Great line: "And that nominee...is me.")

*Lewandowski said earlier that when Trump uses the teleprompter, it's to guarantee that he's covered accurately by the media. The teleprompter is a binding contract?

Well it's not fair for the media to report on what he says without the teleprompter as if it reflected what he's thinking.

Donald Trump, in Shake-Up, Hires Breitbart Executive for Top Campaign Post.

lol just going full Trump now.

Interesting update on the Manafort / Ukraine connection:

http://bigstory.ap.org/c01989a47ee5421593ba1b301ec07813?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

It looks like he helped route $2.2m from Yanukovich's party to two Washington lobbying firms via a questionable front NGO.

More than half the money went to a firm run by John Podesta's brother, who lobbied Congress to push back a resolution requesting that Timoshenko be freed from prison.

Starting to believe that some sort of Trump network is indeed his end-game. Then again, I just assumed that Palin was angling for a TV gig, too, but nothing really came of that.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/the-nuisance-committee-super-pac-cards-against-humanity/?fb=dd

The Cards Against Humanity super PAC will be called the Nuisance Committee, a name that Temkin says comes from a chapter in his own family's history. During World War II, Temkin says his grandfather flew dozens of combat missions on a B-24 bomber over Nazi Germany before being shot down and spending about a year in a POW camp. He joined with a group of other Jewish POWs in the camp, Temkin said, who were frustrated about being sidelined in the fight against Adolf Hitler.

“They formed a group called ‘the Nuisance Committee’ to covertly disrupt operations in the camp and force the Germans to divert increasing resources away from the front lines and into the prison,” Temkin said. “They came up with little protests, pranks, and daily annoyances that drove the Nazis insane. So that's the name we're going with.”

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/765808339573932032

Then again, I just assumed that Palin was angling for a TV gig, too, but nothing really came of that.

It didn't last, but she did get her own show, didn't she?

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/18/world/18TRUMP-web3/18TRUMP-web3-master180.jpg

Breitbart really should install a gym at their offices, this guy looks one cheeseburger away form a coronary

breitbart folks know that exercise is a michelle obama plot to destroy farming in the usa - it's every american's patriotic duty to stuff as much animal product in their systems as possible 24/7

The woman Trump just promoted to campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, is a CNN semi-regular, and she was on last night after his speech (but no mention of the promotion). Don Lemon was trying to pin her down on a specific point about the speech, and after four or five tries, she said "Why are you badgering me?"

You'd have to see the clip yourself, but in this particular instance, I actually agreed with her.

who remembers these old tweets about Trump being absolutely terrified about Ebola:

http://imgur.com/a/Zbt0q

ok the one about NOT SHAKING HANDS is really weird

I thought it was pretty well known that the dude doesn't shake hands. Or doesn't like shaking hands.