I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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also I wish Trump announced his new campaign manager was 'John Barron' and that he would only be available for interviews by phone

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

can never get over him naming his son after his fake spokesman.

estela, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link

I know!

brownie, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

I remember asking my mom who Trump was when he was on TV one night when I was a child and she told me "he's a bad man".

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

http://www.screeninsults.com/images/seinfeld-babu-court.JPG

clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link

Cohen's rant before the "Says who" exchange is worth seeing also:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/17/cnn-anchor-has-tell-trumps-lawyer-all-polls-show-him-losing/212480

timellison, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

Did you guys cover the theory that Trump's medical letter might well have been written by Dr John Barron?

This is a good summary of the red flags: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/im-a-doctor-these-are-the-things-i-find-concerning-with-trumps-medical-letter/

Plasmon, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link

yeah that letter was something else -- my letters are usually skeletal in their content (length of relationship, diagnoses if pertinent and allowed to be released, very narrowly described clinical determinations if needed for work or what have you). typically in the neighborhood of five or six sentences, max. remarks about his "astonishingly excellent" lab results and comments on his "extraordinary" strength and stamina---aside from being outside my usual purview---are not at all the norm

it's so weird

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

holy shit. and lol at Jacob Bornstein being dead at the time the letter was sent but still appearing in the letterhead. I would think the real Harold might have updated his header after five years, no?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:29 (seven years ago) link

less lol that he likely forged a letter a year ago and despite this, he and his ilk have the audacity to publicity speculate on the other candidate's health based on Drudge-esque evidence

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

concierge medicine is a weird world i don't know much about but...yeah, the letter is really odd

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

there were whispers about this earlier in the year as Trump referred to the letter being written by Jacob instead of Harold (Jacob being several years dead at the time), and then he removed that tweet later: http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/14/10123368/donald-trump-health-doctor-report-heaven-protect-me

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

"Adding to the existing group of WINNERS that he has hired for the campaign."

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Trump blew it when he didn't nominate Charlie Sheen for VP.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

say it somehow does get confirmed that he faked the letter - obviously his 'base' isn't going to care, but this would be a different type of dishonesty from Donald, not a 'heat of the moment' statement that was 'taken out of context' or a simple 'misspeak', but pre-meditated fraud. Unlike Melania's speechwriter (who probably also doesn't exist), Harold Bornstein appears to be a real person, though I would have to imagine the fact that he hasn't spoken up means he either a) had something to do with it, or b) is in a coma.

Sam Wang pointed out that Trump, based on historical norms, is unlikely to fall below 40-41 percent nationally, so any negative impact is going to seem very minute compared to his implosion of the last few weeks, but I could see some of the #NeverHillary crowd either running to her/third party/not voting, and undecideds doing similar.

I know Trump is an unconventional candidate but he isn't teflon as has been evidenced by recent weeks. My gut feeling is there will be a bit more circulation of the "Trump's doctor is fake" story for a few more days, nobody will ever be able to definitively prove it was fraudulent, and it'll get pushed out of the media by another controversy, but I'd really love to see him die on this sword (since he hasn't died on any of the previous ones that he should have).

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

He's dead walking

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

or at least he just smells that way

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

melania's speechwriter (assuming she actually wrote that speech) does exist

could be wrong, but if you can get away with 'obama founded isis' among 100 other things, i don't see an imaginary doctor dragging you down

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

yr probably right re: the latter (I mean my post above is essentially the 999th iteration of 'he can't get away with this, CAN he?'), just a part of me would chuckle (sadly) at the irony of the final nail in his coffin not being one of the millions of other terrible things he did/said, but rather a fifth-grade attempt at forgery.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link

Cohen's alma mater:
Western Michigan University Cooley Law School is an American Bar Association accredited law school. Cooley has four campuses. Its main campus is in Lansing, Michigan and its satellite campuses are in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Auburn Hills, Michigan, and Tampa, Florida.[4] It has an employment score of 22.9%, one of the poorest outcomes of any law school in the United States.[5] It is also notable for having the loosest admission standards of any ABA-accredited law school.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link

high harmony tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link

i'm pretty sure that anyone who has ever read a letter written by a doctor in a professional capacity will recognize that that letter was not written by a doctor.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

i mean even when you want a doctor to write a note like "amateurish had a giant tumor removed from his neck and probably won't be able to work for the next few days" they write something like "patient presented with small benign protuberance and may have some mild symptoms"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

maybe he got real excited at his big chance at the limelight

j., Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

^ a doctor who prescribes for himself

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

looks more like a guy that wants to talk to you about his Rush vinyl collection

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

nope, I'm wrong, that's a Mahogany Rush haircut

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

still laughing at the "all his tests came back positive" line

frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

he's got everything, it's magnificent

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

still laughing at the "all his tests came back positive" line

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"mr. trump, i'm sorry to say you have hypoglycemia... and hyperglycemia."

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link

"you tested positive for cholesterol"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

i kind of like Dr. Crazyman's glasses. Very nice keyhold bridge.

Treeship, Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

*keyhole

Treeship, Thursday, 18 August 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

actually i feel like someone may have already made that imagejoke back when the doctor letter first appeared, if so my apologies

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 August 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

can never get over him naming his son after his fake spokesman.

― estela, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:17 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OMG OMG OMG how did I never make that connection before, he is such a troubled human being.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 August 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

This Cohen fellow is indeed a very odd gentleman:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-aide-on-awkward-exchange-with-cnn-anchor-i-think-i-unraveled-her-233522443.html

“I completely disagree with the polling information,” said Cohen.

He specifically pointed to Trump’s poor numbers in the African-American community as evidence that the polls may be off. Cohen, who has been working with Trump since 2006 and describes himself as fiercely loyal, has helped coordinate some of the candidate’s African-American outreach efforts and said his anecdotal experience contradicted the poll data.

“When they say that Donald Trump has a 1 percent favorability amongst the African-American community, I know from my own interactions that that number is absolutely and unequivocally inaccurate,” Cohen explained. “I speak on a weekly basis to more than 100 African-American Evangelical preachers who are all committed to ensuring Donald Trump becomes the next president of the United States.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2016 04:50 (seven years ago) link

well, there are only 100,000 black people in the country, so he may have a point

wait

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

these are some dumb people

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

trump's, i mean

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:09 (seven years ago) link

“I was shocked at the length of the silence as she stumbled to think of an answer,” Cohen said. “And when she did come up with an answer, it was so generic it could have applied to anything."

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

Cohen would like to point out he has been otm in this interview

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

"In all honesty, Hilary Clinton can’t fill a Starbucks even if they offered free ventis.”

http://45.media.tumblr.com/d949f673421bed6c4089c035e380844d/tumblr_my2y8dQQaL1r7vt2no5_r1_400.gif

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 August 2016 05:55 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqGYuHcWIAApufZ.jpg:large

beyond parody. and this is how he answers softball questions from friends!

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 August 2016 06:05 (seven years ago) link

Unanimously, these African-American Evangelical preachers all acknowledge that Donald Trump is colorblind when it comes to race

skeptical of this -- surely dr. bornstein would have mentioned it

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 18 August 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link

it really is beyond parody. i'm not sure whether to laugh or vomit. doing both sounds dangerous.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 August 2016 06:17 (seven years ago) link

I don't know why but that goofy Dr. picture has a Joe Walshian vibe, like

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0812/walsh_joe_mad_g_mp_576.jpg

Rhys Witherspork (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 August 2016 09:19 (seven years ago) link

this is like http://www.kellerumc.com/cr-site/media/medieval-times.jpg

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 18 August 2016 11:37 (seven years ago) link

America probably does look like a third world country from the lofty heights of Trump Tower. Is that a smokestack in the distance? Yuck. Terrible. You'd never see anything like that in my America.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 August 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link


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