This is the thread where we judge other people's parenting

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American Academy of Pediatrics statement (2011): http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/128/5/1040

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

How is your baby supposed to become an Einstein without watching a video?

schwantz, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

I was raised in a limited-television household and my children who have as much access to media (tv, games, phones, computers, tablets) as they want are far more intelligent and mature than I was at their respective ages. Also we keep sweets openly around the house and they eat them rarely, rather than bingeing on them out of scarcity on the rare occasions when they come around. I dunno. I realize that's anecdotal and correlation doesn't equal causation, but it's worked well for us.

how's life, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

have studies been done on how sub-2-yr-old children react to music?

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 19 August 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

I was 1 yo when TV taught me to speak English. I'd wake up at 6am, turn on the TV and watch 'English for new Australians'.

Quarter measures (sunny successor), Friday, 19 August 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

my children who have as much access to media (tv, games, phones, computers, tablets)

how old are they? I forget. Bear in mind my comment is strictly about infants - once kids are talking/social/in school etc. it's a different story

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ESUjomK.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 20 August 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link

IMO that's a mother who knows that making eye contact with a sleepy baby wakes them right up, and is silently cursing the well meaning stranger.

Madchen, Saturday, 20 August 2016 08:52 (seven years ago) link

Either that, or she's texting the father to ask where the hell he is, because he was meant to be back 10 minutes ago.

Madchen, Saturday, 20 August 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

xxxp: 5 and 12, but they watched television or were exposed to it as infants/toddlers. I really wish tablets had been available back when my older kid was little though. The educational games they have now are great.

how's life, Saturday, 20 August 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link

Updated AAP guidance on media for under-twos: http://www.aappublications.org/content/36/10/54">'Beyond 'Turn It Off''

ljubljana, Saturday, 20 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Guy in facebook neighborhood parent group needlessly interjects pro-gun talk into a thread about a burglary (the victim had actually thwarted the burglarly without a gun, and the burglary only happened because the burglar thought no one was home).

Among other things, he said that his own dad keeps a loaded shotgun on the dresser, and that he doesn't worry about going there with his young daughter because she "doesn't scale things."

Later he posted an unrelated thread about the experience he and his "roommates" had with Verizon fios or something. Lol you no-custody-having, responsibility-shirking manchild motherfucker how about you stop offering opinions on gun safety and home protection.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

Just realized same dude also posted a pretty pathetic post in another group I'm in about issues with seeing his daughter on weekends -- it actually sounded like his ex was being difficult, but the fool also still had not bothered to get a lawyer and no official custody arrangement had even been set as a result, his ex just had the daughter during the week and then made him jump through a few hoops to get her on the weekends. Dude is just not an adult, basically.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

ie an average american

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

facebook neighborhood parent group

here's where this all went wrong

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

ha yes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

btw this is NYC, so gun nuts are a relative novelty

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Would you post to facebook photos of your kid sleeping in hospital bed, admitted for meningitis, as well as hospital mask selfies, y/n?

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

jfc no

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah, I mean

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

also, the long-ass post accompanying the hospital mask selfie (which, afaict, depicted a zany, smiling expression) noted that the kid had asked for no more pictures of him to facebook.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

But aside from respect for privacy and basic dignity of my own kids, I just cannot imagine being in the state of mind to even THINK to post photos to facebook while that's going on

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

i took a picture of my cat when he was seriously ill and at the vet for my wife who was at work at the time because she wanted to see how he looked. i then deleted it from my phone because it seemed unseemly and weird to have a picture of a my sick cat.

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

When my daughter was in the hospital with pneumonia, I don't think I posted anything to facebook, and I post a fucking lot

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

I would not do that.

Jeff, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Would you post to facebook photos of your kid sleeping in hospital bed, admitted for meningitis, as well as hospital mask selfies, y/n?

appropriate use of this thread fwiw cuz fuck no

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

You don't even use Facebook at all!

Not sure if I'd do this. Maybe? When my kid was in the hospital for surgery back in '08, I didn't. Nowadays, maybe? I think I put pictures on Flickr.

schwantz, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

true this was an easy one to answer for me lol :)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

but seriously if one of your boys said "please don't post this on facebook!" I assume you would respect his wishes...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

Not if it was hilarious.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

but seriously if one of your boys said "please don't post this on facebook!" I assume you would respect his wishes...

That's true.

schwantz, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

standard line I hear from childcare professionals (ed directors, Kaiser pediatrics, etc.) is that any screentime prior to the age of 2 or so is not recommended

more science: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170504083141.htm

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

Still did it. Judge away!

Jeff, Friday, 5 May 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

Infant Hercules happily strangled a pair of snakes that slithered into his crib at night, still, no one ever criticizes his parents, Zeus and Alcmene, as bad parents.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link

Are you sure about that

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 May 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

A google search on: Zeus Alcmene "bad parents", returns 15 unique results, none of which include criticism of their bad parenting. The top search result asserts that the quack of a duck cannot echo, so you can see the high quality of these results right there. So, coupled with my never having heard a peep of criticism directed at Zeus and Alcmene as Heracles parents, I'm reasonably sure. Not positively, though.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

IDK if this is the right thread, but an acquaintance's two sons (maybe like ages 6 and 8) are currently "live" on facebook playing with random snap filters, and the whole thing just creeps me out. Don't know if it's parent-sanctioned or not.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm always perhaps not-irrationally humiliated on behalf of any kids who are bullied and whose parents subsequently step forward to talk to news organizations about the bullying going on. or a story where "so and so was bullied, so a hundred big rig drivers escorted her to school." i mean i tell ya, i there are arguably some circumstances where it's certainly called for, but as far as the others after the 24 hr news cycle passes i'm not sure it does much good to say the least. but then again i'm also always shocked at how parents don't talk to other parents about issues between their kids. i guess that shit does get awkward.

omar little, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

Not really judging. Just observing.

Two friends recently adopted two children, a brother and a sister. They're older, 6 and 8, and have been going through the foster care system for much of their lives.

For obvious reasons, they're required to be mum about the children's identities on social media, at least until everything gets final some time this summer. The mom usually posts either the boy or the girl icon from her phone instead of their names when she mentions them in her posts. One instagram post was "Playing with the dogs! Fido and Bowser having the time of their lives with their new friends!" --- and the photo was of the dog looking at someone off-camera.

The girl's birthday was the other day, and the shots posted were from the back. There was a blurry shot of a shadowy figure blowing out candles, but you couldn't see her face.

I can't say anything to my friends, but it's really interesting to watch this. It's like watching home movies of Mohammad growing up. And yeah, I kinda wish more people would do this too, for their kids' privacy and also because they're not as cute as mine.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link

A whole lot of people I know really do seem to think: "hey, this marriage/relationship has been under tremendous stress since we had our first kid; I think a second one will sort everything out just fine"

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 05:38 (six years ago) link

There's a super sweet girl who takes the bus with K (both are in kindergarten) who I am fond of because she was the reason K calmed her anxieties about taking the bus, and they always sit together. The mom is a lawyer and the dad I'm not sure but apparently unemployed rn, and they have a nanny but the nanny has to take their younger one to preschool/pick her up so the dad handles the bus. He's already slept through pick-up time twice this year, so that our babysitter wound up having to bring the girl home with K, and it's really fucking sad. He seems like a harmless but losery older guy (for a dad of two small kids, like maybe 50), and I'm assuming he's some kind of benign drunk bc how the fuck else does that happen.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

mom is v nice too. It's just, jesus fucking christ, you are unemployed, your wife makes enough to pay for a nanny and preschool for your younger one while you sit at home, all you have to fucking do is PICK UP YOUR OWN DAUGHTER AT THE BUS

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

*i am not a parent*

former coworker has a daughter that started college in Arizona recently (mom is still in Sacramento).
but it seems like every time the daughter gets any kind of ailment, however minor, she calls her mom ...her mom googles webmd etc, then her MOM calls around doctor’s offices in AZ to find out if there are appointments, then her MOM gives her directions to the doctors office etc

it’s insane.

if i had called my mom in college with a cold/rash/allergy it would have ended with her telling me to go to the doctor. sure she’d check if i was ok later but still

the whole point of yr kid going away to college aside from getting an education is to gain independence etc. how the fuck are you going to do that if you are 18 and cant make your own doctor appointment ffs... and if you as a parent won’t set a boundary to HELP her do that on her own?

ugh

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link

Bit surprised doctors will deal with the parent of an 18-year-old because patient confidentiality.

Madchen, Friday, 2 February 2018 06:21 (six years ago) link

I don't have any kids that old, but I wonder how far HIPPA goes when the parent's insurance is covering the adult "child".

pplains, Friday, 2 February 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link

man alive that guy sounds like maybe hes in the grips of depression?

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 8 February 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

i recognize this thread is more for low-level disagreements about parenting, but i wasn't sure where else to link this story and discuss it. maybe it belongs more in a true crime type thread but idk it's related to this as well. it seems like there were so many warning signs of abuse and neglect and cruelty, and it all led to this.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/mystery-surrounds-hart-family-that-plunged-off-california-cliff/

I wonder about recognizing those signs in other families.

omar little, Thursday, 12 April 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

God, that's all so fucked.

how's life, Thursday, 12 April 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

ugh

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

Don't know how widespread this is, but a coworker was lamenting that a number of the parents in her social circle have Amazon's Alexa read to their children at bedtime.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link


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