I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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it'll take a larger contingent of forward thinking republicans than exists on earth at this time to gather sufficient momentum to push the party away from obstruction-as-platform before any meaningful changes can come to the gop approach to governance.

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

I just think it could very well be every GOP rep for themselves. There won't be any control. Deals with individual reps might be possible.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Dems can't bring a bill to the floor without the Speaker, so idk where these deals would happen. Ryan has two options: 1) jettison the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus and rely on Dem votes to get a majority for compromise bills or 2) attempt to keep his caucus unified with an explicitly osbtructionist policy with the goal of cementing his rep as the sole defender of freedom against the evil socialist feminazi matriarchy for the 2018 midterms and the 2020 Prez election, for which he wants the nomination.

Which of these do you really think is more likely, cuz it isn't even a contest in my mind

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

even if the GOP coalition falls apart as a national party apparatus, rules of the House are still going to be in place, and they invest all the power in the Speaker for the majority party. There's no Speaker-less (or majority-less) version of the House.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Just going to leave this here..


UKIP's Nigel Farage to speak at Donald Trump rally

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

CALL HIM MR BREXIT (for some reason)

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

Farage is an appropriate speaker. Good model of Trump's intention: start a ruckus, fuck up the country, (wipes hands) 'Welp...looks like my job is done here!'

Two Kisses and Three Wet Mouths (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

whole lotta talk about the clinton foundation(S) today

this one's hard to summarize but it's festooned with links and the subheads are grim-funny enough:

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/clinton-foundation-investigation-update-key-details-about-financial-political

will bunch summarizes:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/What-does-Hillary-have-to-do-for-it-to-be-corruption.html?mobi=true

this twitter thread (don't know who it is) gets pretty messy but there's links throughout

https://twitter.com/ActualFlatticus/status/767871619213692928

goole, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

seems p clear to me that a president can't have a fundraising institution of any kind up and running. that goes for someone running for president too. and a secretary of state, if u think abt it

goole, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

CF defenders sound a bit like Nixon fans in the '70s snarling "They all do it!"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Nixon broke the law.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

I took four years of Latin in high school. I'm pretty sure that's what quid pro quo means.

whew! I was worried.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

to quote Mr Bumble, "the law is a ass"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

that's your funeral

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

(I prefer the musical version of Oliver)

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

Been in Alaska, no election presence. What's new?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

Morbz has endorsed Hillary

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

I searched on "conscious capitalism" and it isn't what I thought, but it's balls all the same.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

no, balls has endorsed Morbz

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/us/politics/donald-trump-black-voters.html

a few eye-popping things in here

“He doesn’t understand that people aren’t stupid, and they can clearly see what he’s doing and saying,” Mr. White said. “Whether or not I have an issue with how Democrats have dealt with the black community, or with Hillary, I’m still not stupid.”

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

Ooo, Elon James White got quoted

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

'You're living in poverty, whole families crammed into small high rise apartments, JJ off doing whatever the hell it is JJ does. Shameful. When I'm president, you'll all be moving up to the east side.'

Two Kisses and Three Wet Mouths (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

disappointingly, Farage appears to have shaved his moustache off

soref, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

It's funny how the Clinton Foundation "no aspiring POTUS should ever help run a charity - especially not that bitch" line seems to be exclusively the territory of Bernie dead-enders and Stein Baraka types, but the Trump camp has been trying to stick with the "she can't climb a ladder without taking a nap" or whatever the health shit is supposed to be about is all the rage in Trump Country.

My hypothesis is that the CF charity / corruption angle hasn't made it to the white supremacist cesspools Trump's "oppo research" teams hang out in so they're just a bit behind

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

lol trying to do dad shit while simulposting to ILX makes for really bad run-ons

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

Clinton's social media team is fucking on it. This image started making the rounds today; it's from Maine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqpYO0TWIAAw0Vj.jpg

http://vagendaofmanocide.com redirects to the Clinton donation page.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:03 (seven years ago) link

lolz vagenda of manocide

Worst Presidential Election Ever (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

too good to pass up

vagenda of manocide (sleeve), Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

mar-a-lago vagenda est

Devilock, Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

lol (local journo):

https://twitter.com/mbrodkorb/status/768620720620498944

Michael Brodkorb
‏@mbrodkorb

UPDATE: Total confusion among #MNGOP officials on process for Trump being on MN ballot - absolutely possible they could've missed deadline.

j., Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

they are apparently big fans of provocative storefront signs judging by their page.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

Had to check--was hoping MN meant Montana, but no.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link

At least MN has more electoral votes than MT, but Trump was never going to get them.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

woulda been a good black eye tho

j., Thursday, 25 August 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link

Here's the gun shop with that sign. Dude has been doing this for years, sorta like Starbucks misspelling your name for social media reasons

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gulf-of-Maine-Gunsmithing/142237115821818.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 25 August 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

lolz vagenda of manocide

are you of the manocide vagendas?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 25 August 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link

(spoken in an irish lilt)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 25 August 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link

Clinton's social media team is fucking on it. This image started making the rounds today; it's from Maine:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqpYO0TWIAAw0Vj.jpg

http://vagendaofmanocide.com redirects to the Clinton donation page.

― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The image was posted on the establishment's Facebook page in 2014, so it's likely been known to Clinton's staff for a while.

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 25 August 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 August 2016 05:42 (seven years ago) link

Item one on the vagenda: becoming Presidentata of the Uterus States.

Rhys Witherspork (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 August 2016 07:39 (seven years ago) link

Then the long march through the manstitutions.

Then the ovarythrow of the dicktatorship.

Only then can we begin the Hillocaust.

Rhys Witherspork (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 August 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link

didn't realize morbz had retired to Maine

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

I support manocide

The shit in question drinks whisky with generals

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:51 (seven years ago) link

I've drank whisky with a general, and I'm mostly a pacifist. I don't turn down booze.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

tough but fair

I have voted for two more women for president than most of you millennial pussies

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 August 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

I saw Trump shaking Farage's hand after his speech, so there's at least one rumour disproved.

Mark G, Thursday, 25 August 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link

well tbf the rumor was only that his hands are very small

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 25 August 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

Maybe Trump is less phobic about handshaking since his doctor confirmed that he tested positive for everything.

An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 August 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

ah, "I keel you with my HANDSHAKE!!"

Mark G, Thursday, 25 August 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link


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