Jenny Hval - Viscera

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'Conceptual Romance' is just a beautiful song

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link

i agree

j. winters (josh), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link

Agreed!

Ross, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

new album blood bitch streaming on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2016/09/22/494571616/first-listen-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

I'm absolutely in love with this album. Conceptual Romance, The Great Undressing, and Secret Touch are truly incredible songs, just transcendent pieces of dark, intimate, and introspective pop lyricism that has been largely missing in my music diet of late. Many of the other songs, such as In the Red, on their own are a bit intense in their sonic explorations, but fit very well in the big picture of this record as an "album" which I really enjoy. Can't wait to get a physical copy.

I've only recently gotten into her, but I've just been floored by her voice and sound. Very intensely creative and intimate artist. With blood powers.

octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 06:54 (seven years ago) link

"Secret Touch" is great. Pop music infused with raw humanity.

Ross, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

She's on the cover of the newest Wire

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Not up to the standards of Innocence is Kinky or (the more relevant, because aesthetically closer) Apocalypse, girl to me.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

today truly felt like the first day of fall in chicago -- complete with cold wind -- and this album connected around magic hour time, it'll serve as my halloween 2016 soundtrack

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

Fancy vinyl version of BB - http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr161-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

neilasimpson, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

Seeing her tonight with Moor Mother and Olga Bell! Her last show in Philly (for Apocalypse, Girl at the Boot & Saddle; I forget the openers) was incredible so my expectations are pretty high

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have always been a bit intrigued with individual songs i have heard - if you had to choose one record is this new one just as good a place to start as any

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 15 October 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

Start with Apocalypse Girl. More consistent and less intensely experimental than Blood Bitch. I feel you'll have a good idea whether or not you'll like her after just taking in the first couple songs off that. However, I feel the new one has the higher peaks and is the more rewarding repeat listen.

Personally, I think they're both much better than Innocence is Kinky. I have yet to hear Viscera.

octobeard, Monday, 17 October 2016 06:55 (seven years ago) link

Have her lyrics got any less blunt this time around? That killed the last one stone dead for me even when the music was often excellent.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 07:18 (seven years ago) link

I can hardly make out most of the lyrics on the new one.

I think Apocalypse, girl is just as "experimental." Blood Bitch just seems very blurry all the way through, and doesn't have the peaks of Apocalypse, girl. Where are the brilliant melodic eruptions on the new one? Blood Bitch is also not as varied in terms of sheer sound. She had a lot of collaborators for Apocalypse, girl, which obviously doesn't inherently make an album better, but in this case the greater sound palate is a huge attraction.

Also kind of getting annoyed with her. An album about vampires and menstruation--Oh Jenny, you're so quirky!

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

Parts of Apocalypse, girl still remind me in an odd way of Psychic TV w/ White Stains At Stockholm (which I don't especially recommend although maybe I do for at least one listen). The transition at 1:28-1:32 in "Why This?" for instance.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Recommend "Apocalypse, girl" as well. Her lyrics are not any less blunt on the new one.

Ross, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

The Psychic TV name checking is enough to get me to listen to this

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

It really only reminds me of At Stockholm at a couple points, but there are a couple transitions which are similar. I guess some of the use of samples overall is similar as well.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Conceptual Romance is really something

Karl Malone, Friday, 13 January 2017 07:17 (seven years ago) link

Hval can pretty much do no wrong in my book http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/18693-kelly-lee-owens-anxi-ft-jenny-hval/

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

this is basically a Maria Minerva track

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

Maria Minerva's the best - OK with me. It's a lot less fun than Minerva though.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

this new lost girls EP (two tracks, 24 minutes) is very good. anyone else listening to it?

i went to check out a bad andrew wk review, but left listening to a new hval side-project i didn't even know about. it was a good visit to pitchfork

Yeah, it's quite good. I think the A-side was the centerpiece at her concert at Roskilde last summer. Anyone else who have heard it live?

Frederik B, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

Oh damn there's new hval; tnanks Karl

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link

hval's music shares so many of the best qualities of kate bush and laurie anderson. i'm surprised there isn't more love for her here since those two are certified ilxor legends

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link

Listened to Blood Bitch soooo much in the last year or so, it's pretty wonderful.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link

Love to get a hold of Hval's Kate bush essay, but haven't found it in English

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

Have you found it in Norwegian? Would love to read it as well :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

there is some sort of academic paper on the subject on the link below but it's written by someone else:

jennyhval.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ENO-Kate-Bush.pdf

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link

actually no, it's just a long interview with jenny on the subject (i think!)

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

an interview w/ jenny h about her thesis i mean

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link

I would like to read the thesis. Hval says that it's a 'listening' of the music, an analysis of the relationship between Bush and Hval, as facilitated by headphones. The things they say about The Dreaming are really interesting, I'll try and listen more to that. About how Bush until then mostly depicted one subject at a time, but on The Dreaming the very sense of self breaks down. Also, Hval really likes The Dreaming, the song, because Hval herself speaks English in a fake Australian accent :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

Dreaming is a huge basis for the Kate influence on her stuff I think. A song like Secret Touch is lyrically anguished and brutal but cut with a sweetness vocally similar to Kate songs like Houdini or Infant Kiss. Hval is also a proponent of esoterotica mixed with pop

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

#releasethethesis

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

I'm trying to contact Jenny for the thesis - fingers crossed

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

I think all Master thesises are publically available in Norway. Anybody should be able to check it out of the university library.

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

^ I'm in canada bud :P

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

I didn't see the new one on iTunes - is it under lost girls as band?

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure about iTunes but on Spotify it's filed as you'd expect: Lost Girls as the artist, Feeling as the name of the single.

speaking of, i came here to express my love for the first song on that single, "Drive". the first 8 or 9 minutes of it in particular is gripping, culminating in the sounds of her crying to her own music (or at least alluding to that memory). it's kind of shocking to hear it happen, because those kinds of memories are usually hidden (which she references with "i would never tell you this" just before her admission). also it's kind of weird how all the online lyrics for the song just stop halfway through. apparently whoever was working on it just got tired of it and wandered off

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

Thanks Karl, as you mentioned it's artist - Lost Girls and album "Feeling" as title. The description above sounds amazing, just need to find the proper head space for this

Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

i listened to driving in the middle of nowhere in illinois the other day and i was crying along with it. not exactly sure why, even, but it's intense stuff.

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

Love that first track. Seems like a peak display of one theme that has permeated her work to date: desire for physical and spiritual connection. Hval's penchant for immediacy and addressing her audience without disconnect from narrator to audience or superiority is refreshing. Embrace the suffering and it ceases to exist

Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

drive has a reference to kate bush -

hval - i just want to show you things, here, here, here"

kate - "i put this moment here, i put this moment here, i put this moment over here"

Eris (Ross), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link

Hval's thesis is restricted access, besides the abstract.

Google translate:

"Stepping out of the page": Kate Bush and the singing voice of literature
Whale, Jenny
2010
This thesis investigates the singing voice and sung text in a literary and phenomenological context through analyzes of Kate Bush's recordings The Dreaming (1982) and The Sensual World (1989). Central to the relationship between text and song, a field that is underrepresented in literature science. Bush is a literally conscious pop artist in his work on songwriting, song and production. The unique of her expression is the ability to create literary qualities in the actual song-Kate Bush's texts are articulated, manipulated and tanned using voice usage, vocal effects and sound images.
The aim is to place the singing voice in the literature of literature by listening to how text is singled. In the analysis section, close listening is used to the text that I hear, as you usually read text. Inspiration for the method is derived from theories that appreciate the audible, volatile experience of music, voice and text: Roland Barthes' essays about music, Charles Bernstein's approach to poetry readings, and Adriana Cavaro's phenomenological study of the voice. Toril Moi's work with Simone de Beauvoir is also emphasized because it links phenomenology and feminism in a way that is relevant to Bush's expression.
The close-up can reveal poetic qualities that are not found in written versions of lyrics. The method can show how the song expression is not just musical or text interpretative work, but literary work that is rooted in the singing body and the relation between artist and listener. Throughout this work, Bush can create a personal and strong female expression. This expression is most evident when she recounts the end of James Joyces' Ulysses on the song "The Sensual World", and this recording can demonstrate the literary and feminist potential of pop music.

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

Thanks Sanpaku

Hval was heavily influenced by Safe on "Apocalypse Girl", great film (opening music seems to have been a sonic reference on the record)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWzQGIjiePs

Eris (Ross), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

Her novel is coming out in English in October: https://www.versobooks.com/books/2775-paradise-rot

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

New ep. haven’t heard it yet but damn she’s prolific

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJB7UR91JrA

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link

yes!

lukas, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i2oJJwgLTk

gorgeous

lukas, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 06:46 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

new album's very good, maybe not quite as good as the lost girls album last year but still very enjoyable

ufo, Friday, 11 March 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link

general vibe reminds me of aerial and animals so it's really made for me

ufo, Saturday, 12 March 2022 05:34 (two years ago) link

Her music is often beautifully layered, here it's beautifully bare, natural-mechanical, and placing more focus on her solo voice, almost approaching Susanne Sundfør lyrical art pop. It feels very confident and accomplished. Not every composition hits, but each tries something out convincingly and the eight songs are consistent.

Nabozo, Monday, 14 March 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link

This is a really addictive and super-accessible album and I think my favourite Hval to date. Instantly gratifying as a fresh springtime pop album but there are layers and layers and layers to unpick. The structures are possibly less conventionally pop than on The Practice of Love but it is somehow a much easier and more nourishing listen.

technopolis, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 22:31 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the year of love is a fantastic song

treeship., Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Finally listening to this.

Given it is currently uncertain whether Julia Holter will make further albums in the vein of Have You In My Wilderness, I’m very grateful to Hval for stepping into the breach so consummately.

Tim F, Saturday, 9 July 2022 06:35 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Why'd it take me so long to listen to this? Julia Holter vibes are right, Tim F. A rather stunning, accessible, naturalist pop record.

Indexed, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

coincidentally listening to it right now. excellent album!

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

I've had this on my 'to listen' list for a while, just getting round to it now thanks to the thread bump. This is great so far, Year of Love is such an arresting song.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

lovely new song, 'buffy':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoBkkXpvO9E

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

sublime

ufo, Thursday, 17 November 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

new lost girls album isn't as strong as menneskekollektivet or classic objects but is still quite nice

ufo, Friday, 20 October 2023 00:00 (five months ago) link


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