Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

leftists who preach equality and compassion are often people who are doing it for reasons of fashion/social climbing/superiority and can be the most miserable dicks out there.

in the online world, I wonder how much of that is driven by the current climate where everybody feels pressured to have an opinion on something and make it known, lest their silence be interpreted as 'not giving a shit'.

capitalism has been one of history's greatest drivers of quality of life

ppl would be happier if they attended religious services more often

the #1 problem in the west today is the disintegration of communities / the family

― Mordy, Monday, August 29, 2016 10:01 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree with the last two which is why i cannot fully endorse #1

well, i wont put it #1, but it's on the list

*sigh* which is to say disintegration of communities and family is not #1, you feel me

I find it kind of ridiculous that the govt chips in for NPR. Why don't they chip in for New Yorker subscriptions while they're at it

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016/mar/18/airbnb-from-homesharing-cool-to-commercial-giant

most airbnb landlords are landlords

― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 01:50 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

maybe its different in uk/europe but commercial listings are still a minority of listings, but a higher share of revenue (because they can rent the rooms out more days/year) http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/airbnb-probably-isnt-driving-rents-up-much-at-least-not-yet/

most people should not have children

My personal flavour of Uncool Conservatism is a mix of 1. a Hobbesian fear of well-meaning but wrong radicals succeeding and actually taking over (sorry ows and emil.y!) and then we all idk starve or get our heads chopped off or whatever, and 2. contrarian neoliberal scold. The former is relatively sincere, the latter is more of a troll and a product of ennui at having grown-up in an intellectual environment of incurious and smug petit-bourgeois progressivism; the same force pushed me to the far left in college. I don't really have enough confidence in most of my political beliefs to really act on them in any meaningful way beyond posting regretful challops on an anonymous plaintext message board, voting (so far always a razor's edge of indifference between two center-left parties), and occasionally throwing some change at campaigns & orgs like Sanders or BLM that tug my heartstrings. I generally come out on the woke side of the White-Guy Cycle of Social Justice Acceptance but still have private misgivings about how some of the institutions play out irl (esp in music scenes, one of which I've had first hand experience of being ripped to shreds over ensuing acrimony)

ppl would be happier if they attended religious services more often

This one really bums me out actually. The offices of a "hip" college kid-skewing church are across the street from my house and they always seem to have all sort of events going on, like cookouts and people doing stuff and a band playing every once in a while.

I think a lot about how nice it would be to have some sort of community like that to interact with regularly, but the single thing that every one of these people by definition have in common and the essential reason they're all hanging out together is something that I think is absolute nonsense. There doesn't seem to be anything quite like shared spiritual belief that causes people to get together in this manner.

hey, you never know, maybe they're just there for the bbq

Seriously. I was looking for a way out of the church my whole childhood and when I turned 16 I found a job that required me to be there on Sunday mornings. I miss the ice cream socials and volunteer opportunities, but fuck listening to interminable sermons once a week and cracking open the hymnal every 10 minutes.

i am super happy not going to religious services at all, like my weekends got 100x better when i got to college and realized that i don't have to go to church every sunday anymore

but yea i agree about the need for community/family

my wife and i tried out various churches for a while, we were both raised catholic and not interested in that anymore so we visited a few different progressive churches eg UCC, UU and it was fine i guess but it still felt like church, the bigger factor was that i just realized i wasn't a christian anymore so it became kind of pointless to go

Not a conservative belief: I've found that if you can bracket yr faith (or lack thereof) it stops being important. Like who cares whether I believe? I'm just some shmuck.

i find doing things i want to do to be generally superior to doing things i have to do.

a lot of people, honestly, particularly at the mainline/liberal denominations, _are_ just there for the barbecue. it's so funny to me that so many people are proud about being "spiritual but not religious" when being religious but not spiritual is way better for you as a human being. being "spiritual" will super fuck you up.

Like who cares whether I believe? I'm just some shmuck.

irl lol, something v Jewish about this

capitalism has been one of history's greatest drivers of quality of life

ppl would be happier if they attended religious services more often

the #1 problem in the west today is the disintegration of communities / the family

Finding it hard to disagree with these tbh.

the main problem with religious involvement is the people imo. the church on my street that has a band that sounds like coldplay playing during services, and does a soup kitchen for the homeless, and runs a nursery, and free tax clinics etc. seems nice and welcoming and not stuffy. even if we ignore the fact that they're total bigots, the people are just awful. they come from the suburbs into the city to go to church - i guess because it's some specific weirdo prod denomination. after service finishes they flood to the local ice cream places in their suvs. they are bland. they are wholesome. they are blah.

The point of a revolutionary vanguard is not to create revolution, but to scare the bourgeoisie into creating a welfare state.

Frederik, you will like this section of this wikipedia article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Nations_Fail#Drivers_of_Democracy

You might like the book too but I dunno haven't read it

the people are just awful

well, that's people for you, isn't it?

Like who cares whether I believe? I'm just some shmuck.

irl lol, something v Jewish about this

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:25 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep

there's a local youth-oriented church thing in my city that's similar, I think maybe they're not all that religiousy then I see a group of them studying the bible at a coffeeshop

super weird when there are two bible study groups of young (college-age to mid-20s) adults and they're segregated by gender. like, you're from the same church and all sitting there with bibles open, wtf is going on here

my belief is that youth-oriented churches are a corruption of the idea of church community because the point of the community is it includes the old and young alike and age is a really creepy way to divide yr religious community

there are many, many cool new wave churches around where I live that seem to be targeting a younger demo. I, for one, am deeply suspicious of all of them.

Yanks still fixating on religion wtf guys the world is yours

yanks took that seriously and literally now own the world dude

I guess the haters call this neo-liberalism rather than conservatism, but: I think identity-based politics are more important than class-based at this moment in time.

Also, and I know this is controversial, for all that I dislike Clinton's foreign policy and find her too hawkish, I still trust her more than Stein on this subject. And, honestly, Sanders.

Xp if u own the world hows come u pay us all the tax

I think you'll find we don't pay you the tax, hence the legal wrangling

We don't want it anyway

my belief is that youth-oriented churches are a corruption of the idea of church community because the point of the community is it includes the old and young alike and age is a really creepy way to divide yr religious community

― mh 😏, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:25 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought youth-oriented churches were the ones with a mix if young and old alike, and it's other churches that are exclusively geriatrics at this point

it's a double irish arrangement foolio

feel bad for dear old ireland tho

eu should be ashamed of itself

xp

Nah, Margrethe Vestager ftw!

cheers peggy for turning a blind eye to tax loopholes in a country that needed a bailout

gotta love the socialists for keeping those in need down, but feeding them just enough swill to think they're improving

I can't decide where I stand on it tbh. Doesn't feel like tax swindling is a just or sustainable basis for economic success but......maybe it is?

children who regularly misbehave in school should be sent to work camps

church youth groups exist as a dating pool imo.

(something that becomes readily
apparent if you've ever been in/around one: they are erotically charged to a fairly intense degree)

yeah, that was the creepy vibe I got watching the two tables of coffee shop bible studiers interacting

reminds me of my college roommate who was raised very churchy who said that if you sat next to the same person at a college christian group three weeks in a row you're now engaged

lol my church youth group was quite small, all male, and any erotic energy was sublimated

dicks 4 Jesus

my belief is that youth-oriented churches are a corruption of the idea of church community because the point of the community is it includes the old and young alike and age is a really creepy way to divide yr religious community

― mh 😏

or maybe it's that many churches are so oriented around family life (there seem to be a lot of people who are not highly concerned with religion personally but are concerned that their children learn religious values) that people without children feel left out, particularly since they're a definite minority in most churches.

struggling to think of any actual conservative beliefs that i have (other than the good ones mentioned here about community/family/religion) that are distinguishable as truly conservative as opposed to just a general philosophical pessimism (hence the value i see in some traditional forms of religion). Is belief in "progress" still a Left Wing belief? Historical necessity? Enlightenment? Who believes in these things anymore?

Enlightenment in light of post colonialism almost can seem right wing! Tho there are left wing (antideutsch) who still use this kind of language from the left - though they seem troubling right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxRD0UvbpII

In fine with some animals going extinct.
Labor unions in their present state are causing more harm than good.
I think some people are just lazy.

i *think* belief in progress is right wing now

Right wing progress is shipping illegals to a deep part of the Gulf of Mexico.