Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

The director later testified he didn’t remember the doctor’s conversation but “if it happened, it was my bad.”
Then he tried to explain away Williams’s treatment. “People just die sometimes,” he said, according to court records.

FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT

"sometimes when people display textbook signs of paralysis, and complain that they can't move for three days, and we laugh and tell them they're faking, they just die. hard to figure out why."

what dr casino said.

jfc this fucking country

small bright spot: a few terrible prosecutors have been bounced:

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/zimmerman_prosecutor.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html

A national prisoner labor strike is starting today: http://www.maskmagazine.com/the-prisoner-issue/struggle/live-updates-prisoner-strike

The Tyre King and Terence Crutcher murders are both absolutely awful and I have no idea what else to say. Fucking hell.

Yeah, so with every passing week I'm less keen on moving to the American south. Jesus fucking Christ, this country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/us/protests-erupt-in-charlotte-after-police-kill-a-black-man.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

eesh why are you moving south

My son lives in Texas, and while I don't want to live in Texas again I'd like to be closer to where he is.

I don't even know what to say anymore

Based on what I've read, I actually think the police might be telling the truth here regarding this being a justified shooting, having recovered a weapon, etc. The Charlotte PD has a pretty good record with police shootings. They fired Kerrick the next day after reviewing dash camera footage and apparently there is video footage here. More telling is that so many people on social media were ready to immediately disbelieve them based on little or no evidence, which is obviously understandable in the context of the nationwide epidemic of police violence, but still is kind of depressing.

it's almost as if national patterns of documented behavior of police being unaccountable liars has influenced people's opinion of their local police departments

I guess I should have said unaccountable murdering liars if I was being extra-accurate

people disbelieving the police, sad times indeed ;_;

Based on what I've read, I actually think the police might be telling the truth here regarding this being a justified shooting, having recovered a weapon, etc. The Charlotte PD has a pretty good record with police shootings. They fired Kerrick the next day after reviewing dash camera footage and apparently there is video footage here. More telling is that so many people on social media were ready to immediately disbelieve them based on little or no evidence, which is obviously understandable in the context of the nationwide epidemic of police violence, but still is kind of depressing.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:13 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hope you're fp-ed soon so you can be kind of depressed about it elsewhere.

gatemouth's post sounded reasonable?

I was like "who is Gatemouth" so I searched for previous posts; this is one from two days ago:

Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

Gtfomouth

So basically a vaguely self-aware racist?

tbf it IS depressing that police departments have squandered whatever goodwill or faith one might have in them with their repeated, lawless and unpunished murders of innocent American citizens, I think we can all agree that is sad. Sad!

i think the tongue and cheek nature of that post ("fantasy/deathwish") should have been obvious. show me an AML investigator who isn't worn out by Nigerian scams. but nice echo chamber y'all are building for yourself here. fp away.

i guess tongue in cheek would be the correct expression, actually.

But I know you are all Very Serious Liberals and I wouldn't want to disrupt your flow.

http://academicpositions.eu/uploads/2015/05/VSL.jpg

basically the only thing i still like about our ineffectual NYC mayor is that the cop unions still hate him.

First a little tongue in cheek racism, and then sadness over the loss of respect for the police in the 'police brutality and corruption' thread. Why oh why doesn't this fit into the echo chamber?

i think the tongue and cheek nature of that post ("fantasy/deathwish") should have been obvious. show me an AML investigator who isn't worn out by Nigerian scams. but nice echo chamber y'all are building for yourself here. fp away.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:19 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess tongue in cheek would be the correct expression, actually.

But I know you are all Very Serious Liberals and I wouldn't want to disrupt your flow.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:29 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nobody cares, go away

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/reports-one-shot-several-injured-as-protests-in-charl-1786924645

"Protests have swirled through Charlotte after Keith Scott, a father of seven, was shot and killed by Charlotte PD Tuesday. According to his family, he was armed with nothing more than a book. This evening, protests once again became violent, and reporters from the scene are reporting that someone has been taken to the hospital with life threatening injuries after they were shot in the head outside the Omni Hotel in downtown Charlotte."

I'm about 5 blocks from where the confrontation is in Charlotte. The man shot has died.

City changing their minds on whether the man died - now saying in critical condition on life support.

This is not fun.

unbelievable

https://twitter.com/grisuy/status/778779246693154818

yup

she also had a "we need more of this" kid hugging cop post but I think it was deleted

@samswey
Gov. McCrory just signed a law banning videos of police shootings from being released to the public.

@USATODAY
“One viewpoint of a video doesn’t often always tell the whole story. The angles can make a difference," N.C. Governor Pat McCrory says.

Yes. For every video of a police shooting should be filmed by an array of videos, zooming abilities, soundtrack and commentary track...

Good luck USA

fuck. that. guy.

it's ok, he's got all the angles covered

Well that oughta tank his re-election

mccrory is such a piece of shit

McCrory is definitely more popular in the rest of the state than in Charlotte, where he pretty much can no longer appear in public. NC is a deep red state outside of the urban pockets and at this point McCrory has doubled down on attracting support from those constituencies. What he does to infuriate the left (e.g. banning videos of police shootings from being released without a court order, letting Duke Power bury their coal ash wherever they damn well please) no longer matters. I don't think that's a winning approach for him, given that McCrory's conservative support was never that strong to begin with because of his moderate roots. But this won't really change the essential calculus.

There might be some schadenfreude here... National Guard showing up to bail out those annoying, pansy liberals down in Charlotte that are always starting shit. Probably will play well in the rest of the state and reinforce the perception that Charlotte is some kind of degenerate liberal wasteland.

RCP currently shows him losing to cooper by a few points, I would think this plus previous LGBT bill and accompanying business losses (NCAA etc.) would only compound his problems

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/governor/nc/north_carolina_governor_mccrory_vs_cooper-4096.html#!

"...pansy?"

i'm doing some googling and it seems like he signed that bill in july, but still, complete jaw-dropping shitbaggery and i hope he gets creamed in his reelection bid (where he is currently down by a few points in most polls AFAICT).

This obviously isn't the right place to discuss this, but I do hope McCrory loses. I don't think he was ever the driving force behind the state government's conservative turn (look at the rabid dogs in the state legislature for that), and to a certain extent it was unfair that he became the figurehead for it as events such as HB2 often seemed to drag him along in their wake. But after 20 years of at least being perceived as a moderate and reasonable public servant, he ultimately chose to become a fellow traveler, presumably calculating it would end up benefiting him politically. And in some ways that is much worse than being a true believer. And I hope that will be his political obituary.

amen

unbelievable

https://twitter.com/grisuy/status/778779246693154818

the tone/thinking behind these tweets permeates Mother Jones's stories, which is why I stopped reading it

Every day another fucking atrocity.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/busted-cops-caught-on-video-pepper-spraying-handcuffed-biracial-girl-after-a-car-hit-her/

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-night-of-tear-gas-and-chaos-in-charlotte-1786933107

'Tear gas hits your nose first and quickly carries down into your throat and chest, like bad indigestion. It feels like huffing chili powder. My eyes weren’t affected until later police progression, but after the watering passes your eyes don’t lose the blur effect for a startling amount of time. I was taking photos with no idea what was in the frame or in focus. '