I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

that lepage voice mail really is a thing of brilliance isn't it

AP calling Florida race. It'll be Rubio vs Murphy, which means the foulest offal in modern politics will return to the legislative body he loves.

Mordy, do people who voted in the PA primary need to re-register for the general?

So Trump's visiting Mexico?

"A lot of good people down there, they manufacture some of my brand clothes. Great people, great food. They love me, down Mexico way. They don't love Hillary there; they don't greet HER with torches and pitchforks. I mean, I get a hero's welcome every time I visit."

Mordy, do people who voted in the PA primary need to re-register for the general?

I'm like 99% sure no but this year I've been checking my registeration every couple months anyway just to make sure I'm still registered. (fwiw I haven't had any problems w/ that.)

https://www.pavoterservices.state.pa.us/pages/voterregistrationstatus.aspx

Thanks, Mordy. I just checked and I appear to still be on the rolls.

I keep waiting for Rubio' face to melt off

and placed onto a sizzling medium rare patty

ha dws won surprised no one mentioned it

the lights went out all over Hallandale and Aventura

In that Washington Post article on debate strategy posted a few days ago, I like this description of Trump's prep approach

Donald Trump is taking a different approach. He summons his informal band of counselors — including former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, talk-radio host Laura Ingraham and ousted Fox News Channel chairman Roger Ailes — to his New Jersey golf course for Sunday chats. Over bacon cheeseburgers, hot dogs and glasses of Coca-Cola, they test out zingers and chew over ways to refine the Republican nominee’s pitch.

mccain survives

Donated money to Clinton a few weeks back and still no yard sign. The election is soon, you doofuses, you don't want to lose Illinois!

former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, talk-radio host Laura Ingraham and ousted Fox News Channel chairman Roger Ailes

so that's what a public nazi salute buys you, then

trump up the road from me tonight in everettwa. so (like usual) odd, a state he'll lose massively. i like how trump took on a dumb policy idea from our R gov candidate who won"t endorse him(review every reg before instituting new ones), more explicity tying them together.

Trump's travelling to Mexico tomorrow to meet with Pena Nieto, I can't fathom all the ways this could possibly go wrong

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/can-trump-be-this-stupid-not-a-trick-question

Trump's Razor helps here. It's tempting to assume that there's some angle Trump has here, some plan or understanding with Peña Nieto to make this not as silly a decision as it appears to be. I'm tempted because how could they think this was a good idea? Trump's Razor tells us to resist this temptation. "The stupidest scenario possible that can be reconciled with the available facts." I think that's what we have here. It's as stupid as it looks. Who knows? Maybe Trump will handle this deftly and it'll be a huge success. But Trump's Razor has yet to fail me. So I'm going to stick with it.

EPN can give his dogshit approval ratings (something like 24 percent) a nice boost by absolutely lambasting trump in some way. it's not a public meeting, but maybe he can have an aide of his leak unflattering trump-related details of the meet to the press or something

That's basically what the TPM piece posits. He has no reason to cozy to the totally hated Trump, and everything to gain from humiliating him.

encouraging

@DougHenwood
Hillary unpopularity at new high, on par with Trump - underwater even with women

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-clinton-unpopularity-high-par-trump/story?id=41752050

Among registered voters, the two candidates have near-identical unfavorable ratings: 59 percent for Clinton vs. 60 percent for Trump.

so what's trump gonna do when mexico says 'lol no' to all of his plans (such as they are?) i assume it'll stir trump supporters into a new level of impotent rage against mexicans?

oh wait this'll happen TODAY? *grabs popcorn*

I don't understand the parallel unfavorability ratings. It's like saying there's practically no difference between the idea of eating something that isn't to your taste and eating a handful of irradiated dog shit.

Well, guess the AP's lies worked.

The Byrds, "Fifth Dimension":

And never hit bottom and keep falling through
Just relaxed and paying attention

I don't understand the parallel unfavorability ratings. It's like saying there's practically no difference between the idea of eating something that isn't to your taste and eating a handful of irradiated dog shit.

It's not exactly a nuanced question. I would imagine the people who dislike both candidates, if forced to choose, would overwhelmingly vote Hillary, it's definitely not your typical "both candidates suck" kind of year

Yeah, you definitely have a point. If someone asked me 'do you like either candidate y/n' I'd probably say n even though there's a planet-sized gulf between my mild dislike of one vs. my primal, cell-deep loathing of the other.

it's such a Beltway question -- like anybody gives a damn about liking politicians! Most people dislike several relatives.

Every time Hillary's 'scandals' are dredged up again she loses support in the polls, though. There are definitely people who are going 'over half of the 150 people she met during her four years as foreign secretary supported her foundation? She IS as bad as Trump then'

it's such a Beltway question -- like anybody gives a damn about liking politicians! Most people dislike several relatives.

in the past it's been the best question for prediction election outcomes. obviously This Election Is Different.

it's definitely not your typical "both candidates suck" kind of year

no, it's an atypical "both candidates suck" kind of year

This endless campaign doesn't help

Only one loser can win.

ie

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/james-clad-endorses-clinton-227574

the favorability ratings aren't noise (I looked and ABC wasn't the only pollster in which Hillary's favorability slipped - they were all pretty much in agreement on that), but they also fluctuate a bit more than polling numbers do, as evidenced by her upward swing earlier in August. I expect this is due to the Foundation news and she'll rebound, but she's going to have shitty numbers throughout the election no matter what - she's just unpopular. Trump also has the potential to dip further.

does correspond to the "tightening" of the polls, which still show Hillary comfortably ahead (just not as wide a margin). Other than that terrible USC poll which is always wrong 4 points.

Appropriate for clem to mention the Byrds 5D album since Don's going down to Mexico just like Joe

This week much has been made of the fact that when Hillary Clinton's server disks were wiped, they used a product called Bleach Bit to perform a secure wipe.

"Not only deleted, folks. This was after she was subpoenaed by Congress," he droned on.

"And not only that, she BLEACHED which somebody said they'd never even heard of," Trump blithered. "In a very expensive fashion, used chemicals so that nobody will ever be able to see them."

what are the late night shows gonna do when this election is over?

I...just...jesus christ. I'm sure there are dumber public figures, but none are as ready and willing to broadcast their abject stupidity as Trump.

I still want an interviewer to ask him what a server is and what it does.

I would love for someone to ask him about Common Core. Like he knows it has something to do with education and he knows Republicans don't like it but I honestly don't think he knows what it even is. Despite this he's like...always railing against it

the Jill Stein holds up a dank meme and pretends to laugh picture is just the most perfect thing & has broken me. any political thing I try to focus on I just think of Jill Stein and the pretend laugh dank meme

http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.246663924.5391/ra,classic_tee,x1350,101010:01c5ca27c6,front-c,30,60,940,730-bg,f8f8f8.2u7.jpg

Hillary's Chemical Romance

As a child, Donald warned Eric about proper treatment of a cold.

"Make sure not to sneeze near your PC, especially the hard drive - you want to make sure to keep your computer free of viruses".

i am in a Panera wishing I could howl with laughter right now at this bleach story. brb heading outside to do so

Well, guess the AP's lies worked.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:37 AM

I know the Danish Richard Hofstadter over here is sort of dumb even for this thread, but how you all feelin' today? Ready to lose? LOL

ie

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/james-clad-endorses-clinton-227574

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 16:10 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just to check, is this some game-over argument against her from your point of view, or am I reading this wrong?

no, just one more grain on the neocon Hill

idgi iago, if you're a trump supporter why don't you stick around for longer than the same one sentence nonsense and defend him? i know ilx is craving some posters w/ unconventional political views. i'm sure as a bright guy you can defend your preference sufficiently!