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i mean i guess "found it really hard" covers most of the activities i do at the gym apart from the 5 minutes rowing machine at the start and a few of the stretches.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

it's the only exercise that's injured me. too much weight + bad form = so easy to tweak a rotator cuff.

― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:11 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is why je refuse

i've started incorporating a standing cable press, considering weighted pushups

i've already fucked up my knee, i don't need to give the orthopods any more money for a shuolder repair

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

weighted pushups are something i'd like to do but the one time i attempted them it was weirdly stressful trying to get a plate on my back by myself lol.

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

i think there's a couple vests at my place

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

I got a 'football bar'-type of bar where you grip the bar parallel - it's outstanding for bench press and Pendlay rows.

I get why big gyms don't invest in the many different specialty bars but if you've got access and aren't training for a powerlifting/Olympic competition I see almost no reason to lift with a straight barbell for most things - trap bar deadlifts, the safety-squat bar, parallel grip bars for rows/bench/OHP are all awesome.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

i love to bench press! can't do much though bc i'm a girl

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link

sorry everyone

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Thursday, 1 September 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link

hahaha

asuka got sw0le

clouds, Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

The two most helpful form things for me with bench were (1) realizing it was ok and even preferable to use a narrower grip, so that my forearms stayed closer to parallel, (2) realizing that the lift path shouldn't be totally straight but diagonal, sort of from the top of your ribs at the bottom of the lift to over your chest at the top, depending in part on your arm length and torso length.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

back after two weeks off (vacation plus bad work schedule) and numbers are down significantly, but I feel like they'll come back fast.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 9 September 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Also saw old friends last week that I haven't seen in like a year and they were all "Whoa, your muscles are big!" which was kind of a good feeling.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 9 September 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

It's kind of amazing that you can dramatically change your body by lifting heavy objects three hours a week.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 9 September 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Listen to your body" is such weird advice, like my body is full of sensible advice like "don't do pushups they feel awful just do more dips we like doing dips add some more weight or something" but at the same time it just does not want to eat ever, I've been lifting for almost six months now and eating a third meal every day is still a conscious and tiresome effort.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 29 September 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Lifting is great though I love this thread!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 29 September 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

i've been consistent now for 3.5-4 months, probably my longest stretch.

savvinesslessness (map), Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:03 (seven years ago) link

i will go four days in a row and then suddenly stop for 2 weeks. need to work on that.

clouds, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

today i saw these two boys doing close-grip benches with their thumbs touching. i thought about telling them that was too close, they could hurt their wrists, but then thought 'they only have 25-lb plates on they aren't going to hurt anything' lol oh snap.

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

though i did not go heavy today and felt a little slow and old i still did a lot of pull-up sets to super-good tunes 😎

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

I've been doing 3 sets of 8-10 front squats lately and I think I hate it. Really missing heavier back squats right now.

For the hell of it, I've also experimented with overhead squats — it's made it clear that I have some mobility issues, because halfway down I pretty much /have to/ tilt my torso a bit and let the bar drift forward.

Rimsky-Koskenkorva (Øystein), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

been out of the gym for two weeks now d/t sickness and then work stuff and then, the indignity, showing up at the gym w/o my gym bag

:(

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

ugh forgetting clothes or shoes or yr entire bag is the worst

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

i felt pretty stupid

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

it happens to everyone. i forgot all my stuff just yesterday.

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

on the advice of a PT i'm doing some more *whispering* isolation work. i have a severed right lat from a lung surgery i had as a kid. nothing ever feels out of balance in motion, but after rehabbing some weirdness in my right hip, apparently some things are a little cockeyed. and my flexibility is measurably different L to R.

so i'm doing dumbbell bench presses to save some lower back stress, and 1-arm dumbbell rows to work that twisting stabilization. ngl it's pretty fun.

goole, Thursday, 13 October 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

i love both of those things and you don't have to wait for some douche to stop using the flat barbell bench to finish quarter-benching 225

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

lol otm

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

i muddled that sentence bc sick but you can understand

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

ugh that sucks, the sick part not the sentence part

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

yeah no gymming for me until sometime next week prob. so weak feeling.

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

i've bene so spotty w/ the gym over the last few months. I tried to read Starting Strenght but bcz i have v v limited range of motion in like all of my joints I can't bend my arms or wrists or things far enough to get the proper grip for a squat or a clean & jerk. I feel discouraged! I guess I have to stick to machines and dumbbells and find something that works for me? I might also get a trainer and be like "ok look help me figure out what i want and also help me achieve it with this unconventional body that i have"

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

still torn btwn:
a) lose belly fat and get some abs by idk a mix of limited food intake plus weight and cardio
b) gain muscle mass by eating a lot and working out really hard
c) doing (b) followed by (a) to like build muscle and then "shrink wrap" it

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

For the hell of it, I've also experimented with overhead squats — it's made it clear that I have some mobility issues, because halfway down I pretty much /have to/ tilt my torso a bit and let the bar drift forward.

― Rimsky-Koskenkorva (Øystein), Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:22 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been doing light weight overhead squats as a warmup to back squats, in part to improve mobility and form and activate support muscles and I have a similar issue, very hard for me not to tilt forward at least a little, although I can get pretty good depth.

I've been finding longer warmups before squatting helps, including both mobility/stretching and active stuff. One mobility warmup I find really helpful is to sort of do punter kicks, swinging my leg all the way forward/up and then all the way back/up while keeping my leg relatively straight. My squat is still weak compared to my other lifts and has progressed less quickly, mostly because of the mobility issues.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

A trainer told me I had tight IT bands and I suddenly became super aware of my IT bands and could really feel how tight they were, so I've been doing a lot of stretches focused on those on my off days. It has definitely helped. There is still some weak link in my squat that I can't quite identify that causes the slight fall-forward.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

choose c) stevie

i seem to be doing b) indefinitely with no intentions of doing a) so far

clouds, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

I started working out interested in something closer to a) but now I'm more in the b) camp. I'd say my goal is to gain as much muscle mass as possible without getting much fatter and overall looking better. Going for strength gains but not doing what I'd probably have to to max them out in terms of calorie intake and workouts. On the whole I definitely look better and have bigger muscles now, and am maybe a little bit fatter but can still p much wear my old clothes.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

ok opinions coming

steve you should definitely do what works for you. dumbbells and machines are great. hack squats, leg extensions and leg curls will give you thighs. dumbbell lunges are hard as fuq. my very personal opinion is if there's one barbell lift that's really worth learning it's the squat. clean and jerk, bench, even deadlift (gasp), who cares. if you do some sessions maybe just ask the trainer to teach you how to squat. you don't even need to do them with a barbell. it's probably a good way to judge if a trainer is worth their salt maybe.

the more i lift weights, and to be clear i'm just an amateur with passable form on squats, presses and deadlifts, the more i feel like it's basically window dressing to the ability to move, carry myself and inhabit my body that even the most basic yoga routine gives me. i have no idea if you've tried it steve but if you're at all interested i would totally recommend giving it a shot. it will give you strength and abs and muscles and all that plus work with your body as it is wrt flexibility. if you want to add in weights too, those two things are completely synergistic ime.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

another opinion is, it really doesn't matter so much what exactly you do, just as long as you do it consistently or establish a routine of doing it, so you might as well do something you know you can enjoy doing.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

also re: yoga, it's the only fitness thing i do that makes me better at sex, so that's another plus.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

i love to deadlift
since i got sick and i have two trials in the next 7 days i am giving up on october. i'll be better in november. fuck jobs.

assawoman bay (harbl), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

october has been a total wash for me, too, after a few months of pretty regular 2-3x/week

:(

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 20 October 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

xp I've found the benefits of lifting to be pretty substantial, although I could definitely imagine diminshing returns after a certain muscle mass.

For one thing, I just feel way more confident, like it gives me this solid, rooted feeling. I'm not that big a guy (about 5'9") so having the muscle packed on makes me feel more substantial. I've noticed a difference in the way I carry myself at work, especially with male coworkers. I lost some of that old under-the-surface "what if they don't like me bc I'm not a jock" anxiety leftover from middle school, which was probably mostly in my head but in any case is much better now.

I've also found it makes me much more aware of my body, because of the focus on form. I notice my posture, I notice what parts of my body are tight and what's moving well or not so well. I'm sure the same would be true of yoga, but I just enjoy lifting. Relatedly, it's also gotten me to start stretching a lot more, whereas I used to just find stretching skippable. Knowing that it will help my lifts motivates me to stretch.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

everyone says that abt the squat but the prob is i can't bend my arms back far enough to get the bar on the back of my shoulders, like it winds up just sitting on the base of my neck

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

i've done yoga a few times and i don't hate it! there's a monthly or bi-weekly trans & queer yoga nearby that i wanna do. and i've been skimping on my routine :-/ I'm supposed to go 3x a week but it's been a lot of weeks of only 2x bcz i keep skipping and not making it up the next day

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Stevie have you tried spreading your arms/grip wider out? If that still doesn't work you may have shoulder mobility issues.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

also when I say "I have limited mobility" i mean "I have a bone dysplasia that prevents my joints from working properly" and not "i can increase flexibility by stretching and doing exercises". I can't even do regular pushups because my fingers won't go completely flat and my wrists can't really bend back to a 90* angle

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

gotcha. In that case I don't see any reason to feel hard-pressed to squat, it's really nbd.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

ya i mean it was discouraging at first but i am a p resilient dude and have no prob just finding other things that work w/ what I can and cannot do. I know machines are supposed to be less-than-ideal but I've made some decent progress w/ them and dumbbells alone

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

that's awesome. i think machines get a bad rep because of bs masculinity optics.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

Machines and freeweights sound ideal in that situation.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link


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