I HATE APPLE

they will for sure but i assume you'll still be able to buy a 6S and maybe a 5SE for the next year or so.

I'm on 5c and i hope it will last a very long time because it's the only iphone that I like at this point.

Xp Yeah i thought of that but it's just delaying the inevitable, also it won't give me the required illusory feeling of having righteously stuck it to The Man. I was wrong about my current model btw it is a 4S, still struggles with most modern (aka stupidly complicated and ad heavy) websites and crashes a lot. Also zing won't let me post anymore.

This is the strongest pull I've felt to date toward switching away from the iPhone. In a few days I'll be able to upgrade and I'm considering not waiting for the 7 and moving to an android phone.

i'm jumping for the first time ever. the nexus 6p and oneplus 3 are cheap and apparently excellent, and there's a new nexus pixel series due out in a few weeks.

the ios-android divide isn't the gulf it once was, and with dumb shit like copy & paste still not working properly and siri being as useless as ever, i don't want to lose a small fortune just to go through it all again for another 2–3 years. lack of headphone jack would only be icing on the cake at this point.

which of the android phone makers actually updates system software for the longest, patching bugs and security updates and the like? feel like that's a talking point but not sure if there are a lot of offenders

I actually lost my shit with Siri the other day and told (him) to fuck off. Acting crazy.

i would consider the nexus if i didn't hate google so much (typing this on google chrome btw)

which of the android phone makers actually updates system software for the longest, patching bugs and security updates and the like? feel like that's a talking point but not sure if there are a lot of offenders

the nexus line has been best with currency of android version and security updates afaik, but as far as total support time per manufacturer goes i honestly don't know. 2–3 years seems to be a good run for android update support, but after apple trashed my ipad 3 with ios 9 i'd prefer a device to work properly than have device-breaking updates foisted on it (my nexus 7 2013 with marshmallow still runs like a dream and will never see nougat).

in fact my ipad 3 experience did more to turn me off apple than any headphone jack shenanigans.

i really hope apple doesn't remove the headphone jack

that would be such a dud

Have seen two MS Surface Pro adverts now with people doing mundane things on their expensive MS tablets and both pointedly say "I couldn't do that on my Mac". I am curious as to what they couldn't do because they look like they are just doodling.

yes the cinema ad with the theatrical set designer jackass omg

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jeremy dickson ‏@jeremydickson4 7h7 hours ago
@fraserspeirs saw my daughter doing that yesterday. I immediately had a conversation with her about it. At 11 maybe there's still hope.

can we meme spiers headshot? his is the true apple user face

that's not actually a thing is it

Not loving the new home button

I didn't realize you didn't have to close out apps!

Whenever you read anything about preserving battery life, someone will offer the tip to turn off Background App refresh, which allows open apps to continue to suck power from your battery. The solution then would seem to just knock out every app after you're done using it, right?

You even have Mac users on official support.mac forums saying the same thing with no one disputing them. Lord knows the thing you hear with desktop computers is "you've got too many software programs running at once."

So it all seems to have alluded to closing out apps when you're done with them, and Apple hasn't really gone out of its way to correct anyone.

iirc closing apps isn't a silver bullet in ios. it's good if an app is misbehaving and needs a flush, but generally it doesn't improve phone performance or battery life. ios is pretty good at power management.

you see a lot of ex-android users feverishly closing all their iphone apps, and coming from android you couldn't blame them tbh

Ha, I went Apple -> Android, and I'm all "see? now why didn't my iPad have a 'task manager'?"

it's critical in android in my experience

there's always a high noise/signal ratio on forums but from a decade ago, when it was a growing community to now, it's really blossomed into full-blown conspiracy theory territory

it's like mid-90s microsoft users, with folk wisdom, blind dismissals of anything without an apple logo, other blind dismissals of any apple product other than one that is stumped for, and who knows what else

there have been a handful of really badly-behaving apps that have had bugs requiring a force-close, but it was mostly in the days soon after apps actually got the ability to run background tasks. in either macOS or iOS, closing applications is no longer a big deal. it might speed some things when opening new stuff, since there's some maintenance overhead when the OS throws things into stasis and out of memory, but it's not necessary

even closing tabs in safari isn't going to help a lot. those get dropped out of memory as needed.

Love the new shortcut to close all mobile safari tabs.

Got my iPhone 7 and considering returning it. Lightning audio sounds noticeably worse than 3.5, Taptic home button is irritating and not much else here that's a noticeable improvement

even closing tabs in safari isn't going to help a lot. those get dropped out of memory as needed

I tend to end up with several tabs open in safari on my iPhone simply as reminders of things I want to go back to: simpler for me than bookmarks or copying to Evernote

Love the new shortcut to close all mobile safari tabs.

I like this 7 phone so far

I have taken low light pictures of two toddlers and a cat and they look really nice.

Completely baffled at the iMessage options. Make a watercolor heart animation with two fingers?? Why? I tried like 15 of them in a message to my dad, thinking I would have the chance to cancel, but they all sent straight away so he got like 20 weirdo messages (I guess? Even though I didn't tap 'Keep'?). One of them had a cartoon exclamation point added to it - and now my message history contains a separate message reading 'Emphasised Digital Touch Message', as if I sent a message to him that says that. Except I didn't - it's some kind of 'receipt', or confirmation of an effect that I added to a message? Almost feels like some kind of debug code that got left in. Bad!

I made this happen finally. http://i.imgur.com/um1CRBQ.jpg

huh?

I think it's the Eiffel tower

the iMessage options are such a hilarious mess -- cluttered, unintuitive, and also completely useless, it is so antithetical to Apple's streamlined minimal only-give-them-what-they-need approach! I don't understand! It feels like some goofy cobbled-together beta thing some devs made just to fuck around w/ each other and then it like accidentally made it into the final release

also this http://gizmodo.com/why-would-apple-turn-its-messaging-app-into-such-a-nigh-1786616252

Planning to return my 7 today. Can't justify $31/month for this minimal improvement over my current phone, and the audio thing is a big drawback for me.

yea the headphone jack thing is really bad

im due for an upgrade in march and im just gonna do the SE

i never liked the design on the 6 anyways

yeah I'm just going to fix the screen on my 6 I decided, and either trade in for a 6s or just hold off. The only thing that makes me not want to hold off is that my last iPhone started to have really bad touchscreen and other functionality problems around the 2-year mark.

my 30 year old 5 has finally started to literally come apart at the seams so I'm gonna preorder an SE later today I guess

when my 5 started coming apart at the seams (literally) earlier this year I took it to an apple store & for 70 euros I got a brand new 5. lots cheaper than an SE, which mattered a lot at the time. worth a shot?

oh btw the problem was that the battery was bulging and they said it could have exploded I dunno

idk I'm about ready to upgrade, thing feels sluggish and obv needs a ram upgrade to hold onto more than 2 safari tabs at once, and I can deal with the $18/mo at&t is asking, I just haven't found the recent iterations v inspiring. I'll spend some time with a friend's 6s later and see if I can deal with the larger form factor but the design of the 5 is m/l perfect to me

otoh ideally it will now explode and kill me

I'm not even remotely considering the 7 tho so good job on that apple

My 5s is probably the end of the Apple road for me. I love it, love the shape, and absolutely hate the design from 6 on,which to me just looks and feels so cheap, imitating Samsung edges.

I have nowhere to go once this one breaks down tbh

you could get the SE which is the same design as the 5s but has some update stuff inside? idk

Oh it is? I dont know anyone with an SE. If they continu that line I'm a happy camper