New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

ok good, I honestly don't really mind it, I'll just keep it plugged onto my headphones honestly

xp to Euler get a Surface Book my man

I didn't really care about many of these things but if they're going to affect Stevie's quality of life I am angry

RIP my custom earbuds - http://acscustom.com/uk/product-category/in-ear-monitors/

do the price drops on the other phones usually happen the day of the pre-order?

Oh yeah I guess if you use Square, it will be way more awkward with the dongle...

On the plus side, I just installed the 10.12 GM and recovered about 100GB of hard drive space. Still a little freaked by that.

they're selling the 3.5mm adapter for $9

the airpods also seem stupid because they're not isolating

the adapter comes free with the phone

That wasn't the creepy 'delete all your files and move them to iCloud' thing was it, ET?

Nope. Not going near that (although I quite happily use iCloud for other things)

do you get any kind of earphone in the box now when you buy the phone?

yeh the lightning ones and an adapter

ok ta

looking forward to news stories of randoms on trains ripping an airpod out of people's ear

but then trains are more than a hundred years old, maybe we should just get rid of them

Hyperloop One!

it does seem insane that there isn't even an option to have some sort of clip on mechanism or third party loop accessary so you can hang them around your neck when you're not listening, guess apple is counting on third party solutions. i bet there's a kickstarter for a loop adapter before the night is over

that's a really good point, there's nowhere to just pop them easily unless your clothing has sufficient airpod-compatible pocket configuration

which tbh would be a problem with all wireless earbuds if they existed

AirPods will be useless without the pairing/charging box so I reckon theft won't be a huge thing. Hate not having somewhere to put them when eg at the checkout. Watch pocket on jeans I guess

Also WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NEW MACS ALREADY

my macbook pro is 1 year old and i'm already ready to sell it, which is weird, but true

AirPods will be useless without the pairing/charging box so I reckon theft won't be a huge thing.

true, but it'd be very easy for some kid to grab one and fling it out the train window just to be an arsehole. harder to do with clip-on bluetooth earpieces etc.

my macbook pro is 1 year old and i'm already ready to sell it, which is weird, but true

― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:50 PM (two minutes ago)

mine is 2 weeks old and I'll be selling it in Nov when the new ones come out.

My next laptop gonna be the ARM MacBook tbh

when i was into gaming (a very long time ago) i would keep my laptops/desktops much longer

i guess macs at least hold their value right?

xp

AirPods will be useless without the pairing/charging box so I reckon theft won't be a huge thing. Hate not having somewhere to put them when eg at the checkout. Watch pocket on jeans I guess

― stet, Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:47 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark

apple removes headphone port and increases slimness of iphone 7 and in the process forces users to carry around a cigaratte pack-sized case as well

mine has passed 6 years, but it's got new ram and a new hdd, and the disc slot is hosed

xp

Wow, the Music UI in the iOS 10 GM is even more clusterfucked.

they're actually in league with Treeship. next iPhone has no screen.

would Jobs be absolutely raging at this? i'd guess so.

apple have huge amounts of creatives working - we've all seen the soon to be completed massive spaceship campus - is there no one in there that is allowed to say to ives & cook "this is not a good idea"? people like battery life? like their phones not to slip put of their hands? maybe even have a phone you don't need to buy a case for that hides the admittedly beautiful object they've been sold?

when you eventually make the car will that be so beautiful and fragile that it needs a case - a case for a car?

what are they all doing? they produce so few actual products.

the spaceship campus itself seems a ridiculous triumph of form over function. if you're on the 3rd floor of that and have to meet someone at the opposite end of the circle, maybe on a different floor you have to walk much further in a circle to see them. maybe they'll add an architectural equivalent to the ridiculous battery hump after the thing's finished.

I'd assume the circle idea is rooted in the Pixar HQ design principle of locating the restrooms and cafeteria in locations that demanded significant travel time, so that people are forced into hallway interactions that could be potentially beneficial i.e. "hey are you the guy that is working on that thing? I have idea!" So basically every day at work is like being at a conference at a hotel. Most other big "campus" corporate HQs have tried to emulate this to different extents.

I think they're right that headsets (headphones are dedicated hardware for listening, no longer a thing most people need) are all going to be wireless soon.

Ppl thought they were nuts for leaving floppy drives out of the iMac too. Not that the comparison is entirely apt.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczkowski/inside-iphone-7-why-apple-killed-the-headphone-jack

“The audio connector is more than 100 years old,” Joswiak says. “It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn’t been touched since then. It’s a dinosaur. It’s time to move on.”

i take issue with apple doing this whole "our way or the highway" thing, not because they're enforcing change but because they act like nothing else exists. this "dinosaur" plug is in everything i use, including the next phone i'll buy (which won't be an iphone). apple doesn't have a monopoly on phones, they're hardly in a position to ~decide~ when a standard should die.

this feels like a genuine jump-the-shark moment for apple, not immediately — in years to come i think people will see this as the moment apple's creepy pr arrogance started to distract attention from its product decisions rather than explain them, and the moment a lot of apple users just stopped listening and bought something else. unless you really want dual cameras and waterproofing, it's hard to see an argument for choosing this over a 6s or 6se (or just a better-value android).

I'd love for Apple to get rid of paper too.

I hate those comparisons, because pretty much everything they've yanked historically has been ultimately crappy or an obvious stop-gap. The floppy was pretty brave but only because there was literally no other way to get data out of those early iMacs, but it was still obvious by the time that a 1mb disk was a crappy thing. The headphone jack is pretty good, though. It has outlasted format after format, for good reason.

To me the better comparison is Ethernet. Removed purely for space, replaced with something less-good, and with people who need it forced into an adapter.

I guess their bet is that just as few people need Ethernet really, most will find they get on fine without the jack. I think they're wrong. People will hate not being able to charge, despite Apple pretending that battery life is good enough, and they'll hate not being able to stick their headphones into other devices and it's just going to be endless friction and irritation — the opposite of what Apple was supposed to be about.

Ppl thought they were nuts for leaving floppy drives out of the iMac too. Not that the comparison is entirely apt.

― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:50 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, they've done a heap of this type of thing over the years (with mixed results), but this time they've taken away something that's very widely used very abruptly. at least with floppy disks you could get data off them and not need them anymore. headphone plugs and ports still exist in loads of things, including fairly expensive headphones people have invested in; you can't just migrate away from headphone jacks, and people will still need to use the headphone ports in their laptops, tvs, car stereos etc for a really long time.

apple's figureheads have pretty much said themselves that the only practical reason to remove the headphone port is to get more stuff into the phone, which to my mind is not an excuse at all. do people need a haptic home button more than a headphone jack? really?

xp tl;dr stet otm

They could have still added the new wireless audio chip and kept the hp jack. We didn't need dual speakers more than a hp jack. I use my phone for music making, and now I'm not sure how it's all going to work.

I've noticed a comment or two that other phone manufacturers are ditching their jacks too. So are you all sure this is solely an Apple thing and uniquely damaging?

you guys are gonna go ape when you see that the apple car doesn't have axles.

is it the mac pro of phones, is the question

probably not because they won't wait a handful of years to release another phone

ned: leeco made a couple as a feature differentiation iirc, but it wasn't a whole ecosystem saying "you're shit out of luck". you can always stay on android and just get a different phone. in this case apple's saying ios users are losing a choice.

Guys this is 10% about Jonny Ive jerking off to "simple" design, 10% about saving a teeny bit more space for other shit, and 80% about selling proprietary headphones.

otm. greed has defined the cook era imo.

The Home button is now force sensitive. Instead of knowing you pressed the button because it clicked, it will vibrate. Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller said the revolutionary new button is "creating new feelings and experiences that could not have been created before."

Ooooooh......

I'm not sure i'll prefer a buzzing home button to the clicking one we have now, whose tactile feedback I find perfect. But i'm all for new feelings and experiences, so we shall see....

Or trying to anyway, because I think the Airpods will be the biggest apple product flop in years.

I'm not sure i'll prefer a buzzing home button to the clicking one we have now, whose tactile feedback I find perfect. But i'm all for new feelings and experiences, so we shall see....

imo it's more about cutting apple's in-warranty repair costs than anything.

also a heap of android phones have a non-mechanical wake-up function, also i don't see why the iphone home button needs to vibrate. you know when it registers because something happens on the screen.

haptic feedback on a trackpad makes sense because a click does all sorts of things. a home button on an iphone goes home, and you know when it worked because you're in the home screen. so they took away a headphone port just for a vibration that tells you what the screen is telling you anyway.