New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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could be. https://www.techinasia.com/apple-surpassed-xiaomi-huawei-china-iphone-market-share-falls indicates a 10% year-on-year drop with huawei & oppo strengthening. i saw more specific reports but can't find them now.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 8 September 2016 04:01 (seven years ago) link

imagine taking a usb-lightning cable and plugging both ends into a mac with a usb and lightning ports

pure filth

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 07:42 (seven years ago) link

had to go into an apple store today. i got talking to someone there about the new phone and the lack of headphone port. he said lightning sound is better anyway and that the headphone jack is old technology (he used the actual phrases "more than 100 years old" and "dinosaur"). really i'm just impressed by how quickly apple gets the official talking points out to the people in the shops.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 8 September 2016 07:46 (seven years ago) link

I do remember audio geeks praising in the past the better sound they got from lightning port

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:18 (seven years ago) link

that's the tiny slivers of gold in the lightning connector and because the cable is white it offers a straighter path for the data. It's subtle, but it gives you a broader soundstage, with slightly more attack. Firing up something like Yellow from Coldplay shows the bite you can get from the digital experience

stet, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:40 (seven years ago) link

:D

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link

courageous

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:50 (seven years ago) link

http://appleplugs.com/

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 September 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

This thread is hilarious.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA&feature

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 8 September 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

Who am I kidding I'm going to pre-order one. Fuckers.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

probably the 128GB 7 in jet black

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

that's the tiny slivers of gold in the lightning connector and because the cable is white it offers a straighter path for the data. It's subtle, but it gives you a broader soundstage, with slightly more attack. Firing up something like Yellow from Coldplay shows the bite you can get from the digital experience

― stet, Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:40 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao A+

marcos, Thursday, 8 September 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Guys this is 10% about Jonny Ive jerking off to "simple" design, 10% about saving a teeny bit more space for other shit, and 80% about selling proprietary headphones.

Yep this was pointed out when the beats purchase was made. Maybe somewhere way upthread.

This move is two fingers bllx but they will get away with it because the new product uptake is so embedded.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

I'm def annoyed by it but overall I like iphones and I want to get the most powerful and up-to-date one available atm once I'm making a new purchase. I'm also still on a grandfathered two-year contract upgrade plan and happen to have a cracked screen right now, so it makes financial sense for me to upgrade as soon as one is available. If not for these facts I might just wait it out. I can keep a dongle on my gym headphones and maybe buy an extra one for my home headphones, not the biggest deal. I also just feel like none of the competitor phones are either enticingly better or cheaper enough for me to switch.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to see how the new iOS runs on mine before making any decision; as it stands the one I have, two years old now, has been handling everything I really need just fine, and if the rumors about next year's design being a really radical upgrade hold true, in combination with how these new changes play out, might as well hold my fire. Meantime since I had money set aside to start with it can sit there if I absolutely need it for a new phone now that the two year service plan is up.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

nothing at all compels me to trade my 6 for a 7.

I'm due an upgrade on my 5s. Is a 6/6s appreciably better?

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

yea i get an upgrade on my 5s in march 2017, honestly i think i'll go with the SE, i've never liked the curved edges of the 6

marcos, Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

the 7 claims to have 4x faster LTE. I have to admit that was enticing.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

idk at some point things just seem "good enough." LTE on my 5s is pretty fast

marcos, Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I have fast internet access at home, at least by north american standards (sigh) but I'm fine with my cricket wireless plan that maxes out at 8 down/4 up. I guess wider LTE range would make it so I could max that out more reliably, but it's not going to buy me anything most of the time.

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

This is lame as fuck, but it's mostly appealing for subway browsing, where you only get intermittent signal and therefore need to load shit super fast.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

I'll need to upgrade from my 5 in the next year or two because my mobile provider is going to reduce speeds on their 3G connection each year, and my 5 doesn't work with the 4G network here.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

The SE is amazing. I found the 6 really difficult to hold with one hand (which is important for me, because my left hand has nerve damage)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

the 7 claims to have 4x faster LTE. I have to admit that was enticing.

this sounds v dubious or at least v network-specific

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

lmao @ Apple's shitty earbuds and (formerly, still possibly?) shitty iTunes Store compression and all of the bullshit auto-transcoding and then having the audacity to talk abt how lightning sounds "better"

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 September 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

something that ppl will nod along to and be like "oh wow, better is great! we want better, yeah" but truly truly would never give a shit about irl

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 September 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

can't find it now but the one (lukewarmly) positive review I've read of the airpods so far was getting clowned a lot for saying the airpods sounded "loud."

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 8 September 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

iTunes Store is 256kbps AAC, which is very good imo

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/att-and-tmobile-iphone-7-models-lack-cdma/

frankly the iPhone 6S looking better and better

, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

good luck usa

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

la-hollll

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to see how the new iOS runs on mine before making any decision; as it stands the one I have, two years old now, has been handling everything I really need just fine

traditionally where apple shines: the perfect timing of delicious new iphone hardware and a new os suddenly slowing down your two year old phone.

i'm hoping those of us with a 6 get a solid third year, but having 1 gb ram (the 6s has 2 gb) it feels like apple gave itself a golden opportunity to make them just laggy enough to be annoying. then again i've not heard about any performance issues from the ios 10 betas.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

OK, is there any reason for a U.S. AT&T or T-Mobile customer not to get the "Verizon/Sprint" iPhone 7 (models A1660/A1661) given that they support every band and frequency the intended AT&T/T-Mobile handset does *except* the CDMA ones? Without CDMA support, you won't be able to roam on Verizon or Sprint networks (or occasional non-US CDMA carriers) except where voice over LTE is available. It will also make it worth less at trade-in time since one-half of potential American buyers won't want the non-CDMA phone. Since all the carriers have disbanded their former subsidized phone plans (get phone for cheap or free, but must agree to 2 year service contract), seems thing to do is buy the phone separately if you're on AT&T or T-Mobile. No word yet on whether the unlocked iPhone 7 you buy directly from Apple will or won't be the CDMA-capable version.

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

Always buy the phone separately if you can afford the upfront cost. And no, no reason to get AT&T model.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 September 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

all the carriers have disbanded their former subsidized phone plans (get phone for cheap or free, but must agree to 2 year service contract)

wut?? i thought this was the entire model for mobile networks. it still is in europe. american networks don't do this anymore?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 September 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

Nope: Two-year phone contracts are now dead at all major US carriers

As recently as two years ago, the subsidized two-year contract was the most popular way to get mobile phone service in the US. You'd pay anything from zero (for a basic flip phone) to about $200 (for the current iPhone with standard memory) - basically the carrier paid up to a $500 subsidy on the phone, but that cost was worked into higher monthly payments so you didn't really save any money over the two-year period. The phones would be locked to the carrier you bought it from, often even after the two-year committment was honored (this practice was controversal and became very unpopular, prompting the carriers to agree to unlock phones after the contract expired as lawmakers threatened action). T-Mobile - fourth place amongst the "big 4" carriers - was the first to drop two-year contracts instead selling phones on a 2-year installment plan alongside less expensive service. That proved to be a hit and vaulted T-Mobile ahead of former third-place Sprint in customer count. The other three big carriers have since followed suit.

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 07:32 (seven years ago) link

haha wait isn't that the same thing??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 September 2016 10:00 (seven years ago) link

seems that way to me. you still end up with a 2-year contract and a "free" or (+$x) phone

Nhex, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

No, because now if you find in the first few months after you bought your phone that your carrier has crappy coverage where you live, you can switch to another carrier. You'll still be obliged to pay off your phone, but you can use your phone on the new carrier you switch to. Under the old 2-year subsidy plans, doing that would incur a huge early-termination fee, and you'd probably need to get a new phone as well that's locked to your new carrier. Now that the phone and the cellular contract are separate, you can switch carriers at any time without penalty.

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

oh, ok. sounds good.

Nhex, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link

The 2-year subsidy plans also worked against you if you were satisfied with your over two-year-old phone. Your monthly service fee included almost 1/24th the cost of your phone, which comes out to almost $20/month. If you bought an iPhone 5S three years ago with a 2-year subsidy plan and decided not to upgrade to the 6S last year, you'd be paying that extra $20/month for the last year (and as long as you keep the same phone). You'd effectively be forever paying off your phone as long as you keep it, not just the first two years when you're still under contract.

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

hmm. so should i upgrade now (my Verizon 2-year deal just ended) to get my money's worth out of my current contract?

Nhex, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:40 (seven years ago) link

actually, never mind - it looks like i'm already on that sorta thing as of the last phone

Nhex, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

If you're on an expired 2-year contract but are happy with your current phone, no need to upgrade, but you'll probably save money by changing to one of the new unsubsidized plans. After all, the way you got your old phone for $199 instead of $749 is because your carrier was making up the difference by charging more each month. You don't want to be paying that built-in monthly subsidy any longer than you have to.

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link

(by "changing to one of the new unsubsidized plans", I meant even if you stay with the same carrier you've been using; just get one of the new, less-expensive service plans)

Lee626, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:55 (seven years ago) link

Say this much, when wired headphones or earbuds fall out at least they just dangle. These new magical earbuds, they're just going to bounce off into the gutter, down the subway train, into puddles ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 September 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

Yeah basically the situation I'm in is I'm still on one of those two-year-contract plans, due for an upgrade, and also have a broken screen to boot, so there's really no reason not for me to upgrade to something. I'd have to spend $79 just to fix the screen and the upgrade prices range from like free to $300 for the phones I'm interested in. But I'm having a hard time on whether I should pull the trigger on the 7 or just get a 6s for cheap (or an SE for free I think?). I keep having visions of being annoyed with the dongle all the time (or losing the dongle and being unable to listen to music on headphones until I get a new one). Although at $9 I could just pick up a few and have spares around.

I think Apple made a few huge mistakes. (1) They should have waited longer to take out the jack, until a transition to wireless was a little further along. (2) They should probably have announced the airpods at a different time, e.g. a non-phone event. (3) The design of the airpods is just bad. They should have given them some sort of connecting band or string.

Everyone is talking only about two things -- the loss of the jack and how bad the airpods are (even though you don't actually need the airpods) and it's tarnishing the whole release.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 9 September 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

Ordered two Verizon 256 gig matte black iphones this morning, signing up for the Apple Upgrade Plan. It's nice to not have to drop 2K on phones at one time, that's for sure.

Jeff, Friday, 9 September 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

i like the idea of wireless headphones a lot, but I don't relaly like this execution, too expensive and will get lost. if I get this phone (at some point I assume I will have to) I'll just do the adaptor in the plug I guess. lame.

akm, Friday, 9 September 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link


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