I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

If the cyber comment is any indication he won't directly comment on anything, though if you're lucky he might vomit out at least one word that has some relation to the question that was asked.

why can't she do w/ him what christie did to rubio and just be like "dude has nothing intelligent to say. he just rambles word salad stream of consciousness hoping you won't notice that he is a total ignoramus." "...and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future." "there he goes again."

She can and should

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/johnson-seeks-to-clarify-aleppo-remarks-760369731559?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

haha he tries to make it better and makes it 100x worse

Hilldawg giving another press conference right now, she's just kind of standing up there shaking her head

oh mannn at gary johnson. what a clown.

He reacts as if he's being chastened by a coworker for not keeping up with current events. Yeah, he probably should learn more. Preferably before running for fucking president of the United States.

I don't get how this election is even a contest.

Christopher Hill, ex US-ambassador in Iraq, someone who really should know better called Aleppo "the ISIS capital" in response to Johnson's remarks.

I don't know which is worse.

didn't watch the lauer thing but yea that whole equivalence bullshit has been happening this whole election. NPR has been uniformly terrible at this, has anyone else noticed how bad they've been? they were talking about the "cyber" comment last night and were ridiculously generous, like "there is still a little of the stream of consciousness tendency but trump is really trying to push that he will be the tougher commander-in-chief"

this election is so fucking depressing.

This election = last 20 years

one takes small comforts, like watching joe scarborough having a blowhard breakdown in response to mika brzezinski pushing on johnson's pathetic performance - http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/stunning-mortifying-johnson-unaware-of-aleppo-760387651580

didn't watch the lauer thing but yea that whole equivalence bullshit has been happening this whole election. NPR has been uniformly terrible at this, has anyone else noticed how bad they've been? they were talking about the "cyber" comment last night and were ridiculously generous, like "there is still a little of the stream of consciousness tendency but trump is really trying to push that he will be the tougher commander-in-chief"

― marcos, Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:57 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't remember if it's an explicit directive but IIRC NPR tries to maintain as unbiased a stance as possible wrt politics because of government funding. So, as is the case with pretty much all television news media, I basically pay zero attention to any of their political coverage.

btw I guess this will hardly be mentioned with all the other craziness but Trump did admit that he doesn't actually have a plan to defeat ISIS

Lauer: So, is the plan you’ve been hiding this whole time asking someone else for their plan?

Trump: No. But when I do come up with a plan that I like, and that perhaps agrees with mine — or maybe doesn’t — I may love what the generals come back with…

A second grader would get an F- for that sentence construction.

MAKES NO SENSE, TRY HARDER NEXT TIME!!

No. But when I do come up with a plan that I like, and that perhaps agrees with mine

wut?

He probably doesn't know what Aleppo is either

I'd bet my life savings on it

it's one of those spotted big cats, right?

Fingers crossed that a 'concerned' Trump is involved in an industrial accident while checking out the troubled Alpo situation and winds up being canned and fed to dogs.

why do you hate dogs

Trump: so healthy it'll make your dog's head spin, I promise you.

he's got previous form in the dog food industry

https://cmgpbppostonpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/acc-trumpsteakpix-1-1.jpg

Really how hard would it be to get Trump to claim that he'd be made into only the greatest dog food?

Npr is an embarrassment

drudge is going with a conspiracy theory that hillary was wearing an earpiece at the forum last night

i know he never went anywhere but HE'S BACK BABY

To be perfectly honest, my initial response to the gaffe was 'how can he not know the capital of Syria?' which is wrong as well. Nor is it the capital of ISIS, as the NYT, or someone writing in the NYT, said in an article attacking Johnson. I'm not running for president either, though.

I can totally see Clinton messing up a freebie like the debates. The problem she (everyone?) seems to have is in treating this like a normal election, even though there have been umpteen examples to the contrary. So maybe she goes hard the first debate and Trump Inc. derides her for being shrill, or she is adult/docile, and he steamrolls her with BS. Or worst of all, they are both on their best behavior and nothing comes of it at all thanks to lame (which is to say, likely) moderators. As long as no one publicly calls out Trump to his face for his lying and bullshit and ignorance, he can apparently get away with saying literally anything, which puts the burden on Clinton to alter the dynamics of the debate. Which means being fast and loose and funny and smart and basically any number of variables that can lead her to fumble, since it seems she's being held to a superhuman standard of perfection against the human stain.

the rest of his answer is pretty good

A stunned Barnicle replied, “You’re kidding?” before having to explain to the presidential candidate on-air that “Aleppo is in Syria. It’s the epicenter of the refugee crisis.”

“Got it, got it,” Johnson said, before outlining his policy on the Syrian civil war, which includes “joining hands with Russia to diplomatically bring the civil war to an end.”

ah Barnicle, the plagiarist

it seems increasingly obvious that trump is mentally challenged -- that he lacks some basic cognitive apparatus that most adults have. whether that's a deficit that's always been present or it's something that's come on more recently, i wouldn't know.

his entire candidacy really is some kind of ghastly punchline to a sick joke, something like, "what would happen if we ran a belligerent, mentally-handicapped man for president?" happily the answer is likely not "he'd win" but it's been much too close to ever again reside comfortably in the illusions we all appear to have indulged prior to this summer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrzrpM6W8AAtPha.jpg

nothing comes of it at all thanks to lame (which is to say, likely) moderators.

yea the moderators will certainly be terrible

xpost I somehow didn't realize that ISIS was comprised of robots.

We take their oil and we've got a desert full of tin men feebly crying out for their oil can. Problem solved.

the rest of his answer is pretty good

― goole, 8. september 2016 16:55 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Johnson's? No, the rest of his answer is dumb and wrong as well, and it makes perfect sense that he would memorize it without knowing particulars.

Re: Trump getting called out about his tweet concerning sexual assault in the military ("What did you expect when you put men & women together?"), please nobody tell him that plenty of men get raped and sexually assaulted in the military too.

Rape is an inevitability duh.

Well, I watched MASH, and it seemed like having men and women together in the military usually only resulted in wacky hijinx.

assad isn't going anywhere, the rebellion has no chance, a great part of it is worse than assad, there is immense suffering daily on a world war scale, nobody can do anything about isis in the meantime, nobody wants to be the one to expend strength against them and lose in the end. make a deal with assad/russia. i don't see another way out of this.

Well, I watched MASH, and it seemed like having men and women together in the military usually only resulted in wacky hijinx.

with sexy results!

You misspelt 'assaults', etc.

trump is a dumb liar of a kind that's impossible for polite media to do anything about, and also my least favorite kind of human being on earth.

the worst part of that quote, to me, is: "people don't know this about iraq, but they have among the largest oil reserves in the world, in the entire world." no dipshit, everyone knows that. everyone alive knows that. what kind of numbskulls and yes men are you spending time with that a basic fact is a revelation?

the worst part of his answer on sexual assault in the military was this: "But we have to do something about that problem. And the best thing we can do is set up a court system within the military. Right now, the court system practically doesn’t exist. It takes too long."

ignorant, disgusting, knowitall. just the worst.

When he says "people don't know this about Iraq" and cites some mundane fact everyone knows, it has the effect of flattering those who know almost nothing else about Iraq, because they are elevated to the status of 'those in the know'.

fall of ailes unlikely to improve fox, ex:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/08/buzz-about-bud-clinton-camp-denies-claims-wore-earpiece-at-forum.html

The website True Pundit quoted unnamed New York police sources saying Clinton was wearing an “inductive earpiece” during the NBC forum hosted by Matt Lauer. The website described the unit as the kind of tech used by stage actors in need of prompting to recite forgotten lines.

...

The site claimed to be quoting NYPD sources involved in the forum’s security detail. True Pundit reported that such technology could be used to receive cues from a long distance.

"truepundit.com" as of this second, is down.

I daresay that he's massively disliked by everyone who doesn't see in him a flattering reflection of their own abhorrent traits.

Trump, I mean.

Lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr17aXBWIAAuegk.jpg

the NYT has been fucking up like crazy lately