I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

You misspelt 'assaults', etc.

trump is a dumb liar of a kind that's impossible for polite media to do anything about, and also my least favorite kind of human being on earth.

the worst part of that quote, to me, is: "people don't know this about iraq, but they have among the largest oil reserves in the world, in the entire world." no dipshit, everyone knows that. everyone alive knows that. what kind of numbskulls and yes men are you spending time with that a basic fact is a revelation?

the worst part of his answer on sexual assault in the military was this: "But we have to do something about that problem. And the best thing we can do is set up a court system within the military. Right now, the court system practically doesn’t exist. It takes too long."

ignorant, disgusting, knowitall. just the worst.

When he says "people don't know this about Iraq" and cites some mundane fact everyone knows, it has the effect of flattering those who know almost nothing else about Iraq, because they are elevated to the status of 'those in the know'.

fall of ailes unlikely to improve fox, ex:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/08/buzz-about-bud-clinton-camp-denies-claims-wore-earpiece-at-forum.html

The website True Pundit quoted unnamed New York police sources saying Clinton was wearing an “inductive earpiece” during the NBC forum hosted by Matt Lauer. The website described the unit as the kind of tech used by stage actors in need of prompting to recite forgotten lines.

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The site claimed to be quoting NYPD sources involved in the forum’s security detail. True Pundit reported that such technology could be used to receive cues from a long distance.

"truepundit.com" as of this second, is down.

I daresay that he's massively disliked by everyone who doesn't see in him a flattering reflection of their own abhorrent traits.

Trump, I mean.

Lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr17aXBWIAAuegk.jpg

the NYT has been fucking up like crazy lately

it wasnt an earpiece! it's a state of the art medicating device that stops her seizures. geez get with it yall

Trump has a YUGE bag of simple tricks to flatter, threaten, cajole and otherwise drive a sales pitch toward a successful conclusion. It is apparent from his 'speeches' that he swiftly tailors his approach based on immediate feedback from his audience. This works a treat when you want to close a deal in a short time with a limited target group. Over the length of an 18 month campaign, with steadily increasing public scrutiny, it works only on those who can willfully rationalize, ignore or forget his glaring contradictions and inconsistencies. iow, about 40% of the electorate.

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make a deal with assad/russia. i don't see another way out of this.

― goole, Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:44 PM (thirty-two minutes ago)

They're not interested in making a deal yet, they still have more rebel groups and children to barrel bomb first.

-- “What do you do if they make assertions that you know to be untrue?” Howard Kurtz posed that question to his Fox colleague Chris Wallace after he was named as a moderator last Friday. “I do not believe it is my job to be a truth squad,” Wallace replied, explaining that a debate is very different from a Sunday show. “It's up to the other person to catch them on that. I certainly am going to try to maintain some reasonable semblance of equal time. … But I want it to be about them. … I suspect I'm not going to have any problem getting them to engage with each other, but I don't view my role as truth squading, and I think that is a step too far. If people want to do it after the debate, fine, it’s not my role.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/09/08/daily-202-matt-lauer-s-widely-panned-performance-shows-the-perils-for-debate-moderators/57d0b6f1cd249a6fa9f82089/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_daily202-930a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Awww man, really.

'Kay. Sooooo why not save the money that you'd pay Chris Wallace and just have some rote-ass questions pop up on a display for the candidates? What purpose will the moderator be serving in this debate, exactly, if he doesn't plan on moderating?

Yeah, they should just take random questions from the audience, like some problem solving, chair-throwing, baby-daddy shaming studio audience show.

sounds like something a socialist job-killer would say

xp

"Hillary, when do you hate Jesus?"

*WHY*

"I hate Jesus every time my Parkinson's starts acting up WAIT I MEAN..."

"I have never hated Jesus more than I hate you all right now for asking these dumb questions"

"Trump, you've said we should have taken the oil. Which of your hotels would you have taken it to?"

forgot who it was who said it here, but would love someone to ask trump to repeat john 4:12 on camera.

JCLC probably

Any on-the-spot request for a demonstration of Trump's accrued knowledge would be welcome. A recitation of any memorized passage from his favorite book, an explanation of the process by which we would have taken Iraq's oil, the definition of the word 'server', what the three branches of government are called.

obstructionists, nitpickers, and trump iirc

They already did that with the Bible, people don't care.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/8/12846430/commander-in-chief-forum-trump-ignorant

terrible tho he may be yglesias is good here

trump's dc policy shop collapses after wages fail to appear

why are the non-disclosure agreements valid?

We all know exactly how Trump would handle those requests, and how he would handle follow ups that continue to push him. "Listen- this was written a long time ago. People don't need- look, these are some of the best passages ever written. Fantastic. You know this, everyone knows them- everyone's heard them and they're great. Great stuff. Crooked Hillary thinks she can continue..." blah blah blah blah blah blah you get it he would depart and never get back. When pushed he would more irritably go down the exact same path. When he simply doesn't look flustered as usual he doesn't get hurt by it.

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REPORTER: So, what is so special to you about John 4:12?
TRUMP: Well, we're going to be looking at that. We're looking at a lot of solutions, because this is obviously serious stuff and, Obama, we don't know what he's reading, what books, who John is, we don't know anything! But I tell you if I had written that book it would be a lot better. A lot better. Because what we have has been a disaster, it's a nightmare and it's not working and it's printed on paper, like, this is the 21st century, we have technology now. I have over seventy-five million followers on Twitter and there are a lot more out there ready to vote and instead, with books, you're talking - - - I mean it's years. So words - - - with Hillary Clinton and John, I call him 'Hillary John' because there is still so much we don't know about the crooked deals and what went on between them in the emails and we can't trust it. Can't trust it! Chuck, I think it was Chuck Norris said that, and that's the leadership we need in this country and it's the leadership we're going to have and John - - - it's going to make his head spin, believe me.

That was the best response, more good than you'd understand.

The deeper existential crisis this election has dredged up in me is the realization that the US is a far more nihilistic nation than I'd previously believed.

wallace has a point about truth-squadding - if he makes that an explicit part of his job then he'll literally be doing nothing but trump follow-ups about 70% of the time (and also risk missing many lies/misstatements in the blizzard of them that will fall like a million little lie-flakes, opening himself up to criticism that he wasn't consistent/thorough in his follow-ups). a moderator's job is not the same as a reporter doing an interview for a package in a news magazine show, or a reporter doing a live interview down the wire or what have you. in those cases the reporter's job is to be a stand-in for the other side, to make the opposition's case in the strongest possible terms - arguing against the interviewee and yes calling them out on bullshit. but in a debate, the OTHER SIDE IS THERE. the moderator is just setting the topics and trying to keep the conversation going. it really is a different job.

pretending that we are a classless society while fostering the most dramatic wealth gap in human history has turned lots of people nihilistic

HRC continues to define herself on Russophobia and military worship; awsum, can't wait for the series

can't wait for ur posts

HRC continues to define herself on Russophobia how so exactly ?

bcz her marketers bleeve 'Trump is a Putin tool' is her best bet i spose

anyway it was her soundbite today and i am so so bored with this freakshow

i hope to god that her yuge data shop has good numbers on that putin crap, it seems really effete and point-missing to me

You're not allowed to criticize Putin anymore. It's just going to upset people who see neoliberalism as enemy #1.

@dick_nixon
Clinton is as dangerous as Trump in foreign policy. She just knows the big words.

christ

you couldn't come up with that crap on your own? xp

she is clearly rarin' to risk a proxy war or worse with Putin

classic material

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%22do%20you%20ever%20think%20about%20death%22%20from%3Adick_nixon&src=typd&lang=en

Nixon otm about Barnicle.

also:

@dick_nixon
There are many dumb people in public life but Pence is actually stupid. In the way of an insect, or an in-bred dog.

yeah putin is a great guy

wtf is the point of that fake nixon account even supposed to be

if it's supposed to be funny, it never is

Nah, I chuckle at least twice a week reading it -- it's a good rendition of what Nixon would've sounded like had he been the elder statesman he wasn't.