New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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(marshmallow up, not 4.2 or whatever)

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 16 September 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link

wasn't aware that Samsung was running a bastardized version of Android but lol the name TouchWiz perfectly encapsulates how junky and cut-rate it feels.

circa1916, Friday, 16 September 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link

The speaker grille without a speaker.

http://gu.com/p/539zn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 16 September 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

changing swipe up for camera to swipe right for camera sucks

, Friday, 16 September 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

otm

change is fine but so much of ios10 feels like change for the sake of change

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 16 September 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

your muscle memory will still swipe and you end up on the notifications screen

doesn't happen on my 5. if i swipe in the traditional way then "press home to unlock" just bounces back mockingly

seems odd that people with squidgy/mushy home buttons (i.e. people still using their 5) would now be asked to press the home button many, many more times a day but i suppose that's the goal, to hasten this beloved object's demise :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

so you're saying I shouldnt update on a 6? i'm debating

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, September 16, 2016 2:39 AM (three hours ago)

don't

― Autumn Almanac, Friday, September 16, 2016 2:42 AM (three hours ago)

Exactly. As I mentioned earlier in the week, there is absolutely no need. Download the new iOS and don't worry about buying anything until next year.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

changing swipe up for camera to swipe right for camera sucks

― 龜, vrijdag 16 september 2016 14:59 (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This doesn't happen on my 5s after the update? Still swipe up from the bottom.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

There's both. Swipe up to get the control centre, including the camera icon as an option. Swipe left from the lock screen is new and takes you straight to the camera without having to tap on anything else. Very handy for a quick shot.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

a few new accessibility features are great: colour blindness modes, reduced white point is now variable. apple totally leads on this stuff.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

Generally a great update - but I'm getting confused over swiping and using the home button. Sometimes pressing the home button takes me straight in to the main screen, but at other times after pressing the home button I then need to tap in my pass code.

I'm also finding the direction of swiping needed confusing so far. Maybe I'll get used to it.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

Sometimes pressing the home button takes me straight in to the main screen, but at other times after pressing the home button I then need to tap in my pass code.

If you've got TouchID enabled then you should only have to enter your passcode in this situation when the phone restarts from power down, or when it fails to recognise your print a few times. ie no change in this regard from iOS 9.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

There's both. Swipe up to get the control centre, including the camera icon as an option. Swipe left from the lock screen is new and takes you straight to the camera without having to tap on anything else. Very handy for a quick shot.

― Alba, Friday, September 16, 2016 9:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

not new, in ios9 there was a camera icon at bottom right that you could swipe up to get to camera

, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Yes, I'm saying the swipe left direct to camera is new. Swipe up to get camera icon was there before.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

Maybe you're talking about the fact that if you're playing music and swipe up as before, you have to swipe right to get to the camera icon as the Control Centre is now split into two screens. That is a little annoying, but as I say, from a locked screen you can now avoid the Control Centre-> camera icon altogether, by just swiping left. This does mean that it can be quicker to get to the camera from a locked screen than an active one, which is a bit crazy I guess.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

no, in ios9 you could swipe up from the bottom right corner of the lock screen to go directly to the camera, without opening the control center

1staethyr, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

Wow, I never discovered that.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

you people all sound crazy

j., Friday, 16 September 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

The proliferation of undiscoverable interactions is the worst thing about iOS imo

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

i think its great, takes about 20 minutes of menial searching/reading to figure them all out and in general they are all good. i too will miss the swipe up from the bottom for the camera, tho.

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

a few new accessibility features are great: colour blindness modes, reduced white point is now variable. apple totally leads on this stuff.

IT is disgusting savagery that iMessage message styles are disabled if you have "reduce motion" turned on. But if you turn it off to see them, you have to put up with those bullshit 1-second swoopy-app homescreen animatinos and all the rest of the junk

stet, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

oh wow did not know that! other than not being able to see some of the things and wondering wtf was going on

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

that is disgusting

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

what are iMessage styles? i've had reduced motion turned on ever since i could walk

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

same here.

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

imo file a complaint on that. "reduce motion" was implemented in a really shortcut way, I am pretty sure they just turned off a subset of quartz effects in the OS and didn't disable particular things

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

You can send messages with laser beams and fireworks and stuff now. Hold down on the send button to see. (Maybe needs a 6 or better)

stet, Friday, 16 September 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

btw iOS 10 works really well on my iPhone 6!

spent some time yesterday deleting all the apps I never use, going to take the gamble of restoring my backup to my new phone later today now that I've minimized the amount of crap it'll need to download

might even remember to authorize google authenticator on the new phone instead of fucking up and having to dig out my backup codes like i always do

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I'm such an idiot. Looking at my wife's iOS 9 phone now, I can see I must have swiped up directly to camera a million times, but something about the Apple release reality-distortion field made me feel like swipe left to camera was a new feature, rather than just a moved one. Maybe the fact there used to a camera icon there in the bottom right made me feel like I was clicking on it first to get to the camera. Right, that's enough crazy for now.

Alba, Friday, 16 September 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

do people still line up for iphones in the usa?

gonna go to the apple store sometime this evening and check if they have iphone 7's

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

yup

Spottie, Friday, 16 September 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

hm might give them a ring before going then

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 September 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/MattMariska/status/776495257311584261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

, Friday, 16 September 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2TM9xwD.jpg

, Friday, 16 September 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

You can send messages with laser beams and fireworks and stuff now.

Having that turned off with "reduce motion" sounds like a bonus.

How's the "raise to wake" thing working out? I mostly like touch ID but it drives me nuts when I just want to look at the lock screen/control center/notifications/quick camera and I end up unlocking because I didn't contort my thumb enough to just hit the button with my nail. I try not to use the wake button on the side since I almost invariably end up changing the volume at the same time.

early rejecter, Friday, 16 September 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Raise to wake is brilliant. Can see how it's a total pain on the older devices but it works a treat on iPhone.

Still haven't reliably figured out how to interact with notifications though. The old swipe method was great, this new "sometimes force touch sometimes pull" thing is bloody stupid

stet, Friday, 16 September 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

still out for delivery, c'mon fedex, get w/the program

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Friday, 16 September 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

so i just got off the phone with apple and my local apple store

the no carrier/unlocked iphone 7 will not be available til another 6 months or so

i have to buy a phone tied to a carrier -- if this is the case, i'll just buy it online for tmobile and if i switch to verizon i'll just resell it and buy a verizon iphone 7. having to do this sucks though

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

6 months would be a break in tradition

calstars, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

I'm also counting on that scenario

calstars, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Seems unlikely that a random Apple rep and even moreso a bumblefuck carrier rep would be privy to that info as there's been zero news about that to this point

calstars, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

that's very possible but what is your solution

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Upgrading to a Plus in a couple hours. Let's hope this works...

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Friday, 16 September 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

We just have to be patient grasshoppers

calstars, Friday, 16 September 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

IT is disgusting savagery that iMessage message styles are disabled if you have "reduce motion" turned on. But if you turn it off to see them, you have to put up with those bullshit 1-second swoopy-app homescreen animatinos and all the rest of the junk

― stet, Saturday, 17 September 2016 01:55 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the core accessibility requirement addressed by "reduce motion" is probably the same core accessibility requirement addressed by removing the swoopy homescreen animations (apple is not explicit about the category of users who benefit from "reduce motion" afaict). i haven't seen the new imessage effects because i have no friends only one person i know uses it instead of telegram/whatsapp/wechat/vanilla sms, but it seems that the imessage swoopiness would be equally disruptive to the springboard.app swoopiness purely in accessibility terms.

really the problem is that apple won't give us a simple "don't swoopy the homescreen" setting that addresses personal taste. loads of friends people i know found "reduce motion" on day one and left it switched on.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 17 September 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

How's the "raise to wake" thing working out?

― early rejecter, Saturday, 17 September 2016 05:46 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not available on the iphone 6. planned obsolescence?

Still haven't reliably figured out how to interact with notifications though. The old swipe method was great, this new "sometimes force touch sometimes pull" thing is bloody stupid

― stet, Saturday, 17 September 2016 06:00 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also not on my iphone 6; in fact notification functions i had in ios 9 seem to have been taken away. did apple shuffle it into the 3d touch realm to leave some of us feeling like we need new hardware? tap-and-hold does nothing and should just do this.

previous late-model exclusives felt necessary (e.g. always-on "hey siri" using battery, visual transparency slowing down old models), but now it just feels like apple's being dickish to sell more phones.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 17 September 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

hmm, this says otherwise but it still doesn't work for me

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 17 September 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

my SE wakes on raise just fine, notification interactions are hurting my brain a bit (I liked swiping to get to the app in context just fine thanks) but I imagine I'll forget it was ever different within three weeks

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 17 September 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

the se is newer than the iphone 6 which is probably why.

also multilingual typing doesn't work, even though my languages are on the list and i've downloaded the dictionaries. this is the sort of thing that should Just Work.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 17 September 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link


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