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my media change strategy is i've been trying to goad local weather service bureaus into *growing* by making fun of their jpgs.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

I don't think covering Trump saying awful stuff is what turns the polls, as people were saying during R primary (look at the enormous drop he took in his post-convention run), so much as a lot of the puff going out in the last week that really normalizes & humanizes him (Fallon, Oz)

flopson, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

i suspect that were going to see generally tougher coverage from here on out because enough of the media is sensible enough to be afraid of a trump presidency and were already approaching never seen before panicked rhetoric from agitators within media landscape

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

What actually needs to happen is more positive coverage of Hillary and less coverage of Trump period. IDK if it's more the Clinton campaign's or media's fault that this is not happening.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

considering that trump represents a specific existential risk to a free press and is explicitly campaigning against them it's pretty silly that they haven't waged outright war on him. they were willing to sell all their principles to make some money off page views, but when it comes to threats to change libel laws, restrict access to press enemies, etc, that's when "both sides of the story" ideologies must be preserved?

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

and by press i really am mostly thinking of the nyt. wapost hasn't been terrible. nyt has been just the worst. ap, too. npr - not great. all these voices of /neutral/ america.

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

also have to say ppl scoffing at the power of social media is kinda odd, like yeah it might be often frivolous and bizarre, but these are the largest media companies in the history of the world by far, hundreds of millions of ppl use them (over a billion for facebook), of course theyre extremely influential

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

I think there's probably something in all of this about the collision of a potentially disastrous election with an "old media" anxious about its continued relevancy and viability and a "new media" still feeling things out.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsfPOAfVMAAf-V6.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

https://cdn.meme.am/images/100x100/951.jpg

nomar, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

btw I'm not just talking about "clickbait" here I'm talking about the impulse people seem to have to need to have a take on every single word that comes out of Trump's mouth, while very little gets said about Hillary. I think some of it is just instinctive and internalized -- Trump is good entertainment, and everyone in journalism is, to an extent, trained to look for that, even if s/he also has higher and better aims.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

but also closer races are more exciting and better for page views and drive more eyeballs so stories that humanize trump and his supporters + stories that cast suspicion [sometimes warranted, often not] on hillary are good for business

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

and reporters love stories

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

of course most of the actual non horse race trump stories remain unreported

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

last four posts otm

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

sorry I had a conf call had to exit thread briefly...

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

it's kind of insane what kind of criminal mastermind hill has been even as she's passing away, murdering DNC staffers and bleaching email servers and what not.

nomar, Friday, 16 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏)
Posted: September 16, 2016 at 12:34:43 PM
lol flopson I haven't gotten any notifications so either I commented on a dead thread or he's blocked me in some way on fb now

it was a comment about this article: http://thebaffler.com/salvos/degrasse-tyson-kriss-atheists
he somehow missed the point and was complaining that homophobic, racist evangelicals are a much bigger threat than atheists so why are you picking on atheists

lol this comment just popped up on my facebook didnt seem nearly ban worthy, just a polite reasoned argument that disagreed w him wth

lag∞n, Friday, 16 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

@HeerJeet
1. I want to talk about why Canadian fiction has so many stories about people having sex with animals & vegetables.

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 September 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

what is trump is so bad, him being president actually convinces congress to roll back the legislation allowing g the president additional emergency powers to send troops

then we should be back to Moreno votes and they can just keep overriding him until he pisses himself (on a day he forgets to wear diaper)

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Saturday, 17 September 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

more no votes, that is

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Saturday, 17 September 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

wish people would stop mocking incontinent americans. it's a larger part of our population than people care to admit

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Saturday, 17 September 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

hoping trump is so bad we just dont elect him

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 September 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

yah

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Saturday, 17 September 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

ap lede, media may be turning a corner

WASHINGTON (AP) — After five years as the chief promoter of a lie about Barack Obama's birthplace, Donald Trump abruptly reversed course Friday and acknowledged the fact that the president was born in America. He then immediately peddled another false conspiracy.

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 September 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ORTECHCanada

flopson, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

uh oh

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

"brumpbo tungus," haven't seen that in a minute

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ORTECHCanada/status/777908430023585792

this was me

flopson, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

pretty scary for those two minutes when my username was that lol

flopson, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

wow learn something new abt ilxors every day

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

i'm nazi btw

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 September 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Fair to say that ORTECH Consulting did... NAZI this one coming

flopson, Monday, 19 September 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

damn what's the delay on this thing

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

i think they're deleting :(

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

dang, didn't get the chance to follow with "Ortech did 9/11"

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 September 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

So far I am noticing that early twitter use feels oddly like work, where you feel this need to do things to get followers and increase your reach.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

lmao

https://twitter.com/Justin__Bebis/status/777932050535944192

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

just had my first multiple-retweeted tweet, woot

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 September 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

congrats

can I give u a Twitter tip hurting... don't use hashtags unironically

flopson, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

never hashtag ever

Clay, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

cool thx

goole, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

I think all the handful of times I used hashtags so far were either ironic or in response to a specific thing (i.e dumb games where you're supposed to come up with a pun) except maybe one

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 19 September 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

oh cool, first thing to have really freaked me out in a while:

https://twitter.com/gretagrain/with_replies

guy w/ 0 follows/ers tweets obsessive gnomic shit, mostly at women, also music youtubes

hope to god it's a bot.

goole, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

i followed him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

dear reader, i followed him

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

can't believe you found my second account I mentioned

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

ha

http://i.imgur.com/ikUKK41.png

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

lag∞n's feed too offensive for even the misogynists of twitter

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link


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