Just listening now. Blimey - a full on string-scraping droneathon. This stuff is shamanic. Making me want to dig out my Pelt records.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Monday, 19 September 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
Many good reasons to pull out Pelt recordings, but yeah, I love this stuff and what Jack did in Pelt (obviously).
― grandavis, Monday, 19 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
Not to detract form the Jack reissues (which are the most welcome reissues of the year) but I'm surprised there's not more talk about this new Imaginational Anthem comp (discussed some upthread). It's great.
― Wimmels, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
yeah it really is a blast -- i'd be surprised if anyone on this thread didn't love it. wrote a quick thing about it here: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2016/09/15/imaginational-anthem-vol-8-the-private-press/
― tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
just put it on about five minutes ago for my first listen! it is great- so surprising that i've literally never heard of any of these people, you'd think the well would have been tapped out by now
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
totally. speaking of which, this isn't bad either: https://dyingforbadmusic.bandcamp.com/album/nothing-to-leave-behind
― tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
i still suspect some hijinks at play there =)
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link
haha, do you think? or do you *know*? is it marcus and pasquarosa pulling a fast one?
― tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
i don't know, but it'd be pretty funny if it was!
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
they wouldn't dare ... oh wait ...https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Blind_Joe_Death_1959.jpg/220px-Blind_Joe_Death_1959.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
full circle, ha.
i suppose i envisioned these tracks on IA8 to be more rough around the edges, it's surprising how fully-formed a lot (all?) of the tracks are. some have a little tinny sounding production but i suspect a lot of these players had music careers in something other than soli guitar? like these might have been interludes on a guy's vocal album or something. or else i'm underestimating the extent of the private press movement and fahey's influence.
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 September 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
the gary salzman track is by far the standout after first runthrough
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
Another one! This would probably seem like overkill for most other people, but the fact is people were talking this way about Jack even when he was alive. Nice to see so many heartfelt remembrances here
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link
heh, yeah, it does seem like overkill ... and then i go and read it and love every word.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link
IA8 is really amazing
like i know people have....mixed reactions to that dude i guess...but man Tompkin's Square has found and released so much amazing guitar music both old and new...like I'd say at least 80% of ppl I feel like are "major" players in the scene now have been featured on IAs and this one is a wealth of old stuff that's great...His taste and ear for this stuff is impeccable.
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
Agreed. This latest volume is my favorite so far. My current favorite is the Lee Murdock tune, which I haven't seen many people singling out. I'm a sucker for a great melody, I guess!
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
that one sounded good on a crisp ride to work this morning!
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
yeahhh, that one has a nice George Cromarty feel to it. so pretty. i'm going to have to bug klausman about hearing complete LPs of some of these players ... looks like you can get CDs from Murdock himself: http://leemurdock.com/featured-work/where-the-pinery-narrows/http://leemurdock.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lee-murdock-where-the-pinery-narrows.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
and on the other side of things ... this tashi dorji / tyler damon duo is sounding awesome: https://soundcloud.com/familyvineyard/tashi-dorji-tyler-damon-both-will-escape
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
lee murdock seems nice :)
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
just a guy writing guitar instrumentals about old boats and lakes
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
This Spotify playlist = my favourite music today
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link
i haven't actually seen that- link?
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 September 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/0HXEGPLEFmCb2ZrJk1e9ON
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link
And on that note; the playlist is updated for the month of September.
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 25 September 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
found this while building; it's greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AU6y8N_Unk
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 25 September 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
I need to get some of his stuff. His track on the new IA comp has quickly become my favorite on there.
I find that I increasingly enjoy the more melodic side of guitar soli, the guys who could really write. That's why I love Crandell, and the early de Grassi LPs: the compositions. Kinda tired of ragas and blues, and alternating thumb, and Travis picking. Wanna hear more stoned impressionism-type stuff! What else is in this vein that I may not be aware of?
I should probably try again with Cromarty. People who like this sort of thing love him, but I've always found him a bit too stately or something. I dunno. I'm probably too picky.
― Wimmels, Sunday, 25 September 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link
haven't had much luck recording lately, i went through this whole phase with strictly acoustic playing where i was listening to glenn jones and kind of getting depressed like his compositions and playing are so perfect but perfectly at ease with themselves and everything he does just feels like he's so comfortable in his own skin as a player like why bother if you're not as good as he is?
i dunno
anyway this came together really quickly, i wrote this thing then when i put this digital delay plugin preset on it it seemed to just come alive, then i added some analog synth to it, anyway i'm pretty excited about this one at the moment
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/oceanic
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 September 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
sounds awesome
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 26 September 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
yeah i like this! almost moving into a dustin wong-y territory ...
nice recording of a recent william tyler band set here: http://sweetblahg.tumblr.com/post/150968314573/william-tyler-band-constellation-2016
― tylerw, Monday, 26 September 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
Imo "Why bother" mentality is toxic. If you've got something to say/play, you gotta say/play it. Censorship sucks :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 September 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
thank yall - la lechera i know yr right, it's a bad frame of mind to go into hard not to sometimes
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 September 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link
I find that I increasingly enjoy the more melodic side of guitar soli, the guys who could really write. That's why I love Crandell, and the early de Grassi LPs: the compositions. Kinda tired of ragas and blues, and alternating thumb, and Travis picking. Wanna hear more stoned impressionism-type stuff! What else is in this vein that I may not be aware of?― Wimmels, Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:27 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he did a fair amount of blues stuff but i think peter lang is underrated in this regard, and also he apparently came to solo guitar before ever being discovered by fahey
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 26 September 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
The only Lang I know is that one album everyone has with Fahey and Kottke. His brother's track on that Numero comp a few years back was excellent too. What's good?
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link
His Yakima debut The Thing At the Bedroom Window is up there with any Fahey or Kottke for me
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 01:35 (seven years ago) link
yeah he has some jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By4YOVrhj90
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link
also ogmor should curate an imaginational anthem comp
yeah, i was thinking a good IA comp would be focused on the international side of things (though maybe that's getting too far afield from the imaginational mission statement). but either way, exploring the volk guitarist world would be a cool comp for sure.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
oops thing at nursery room window! xpost
ogmor IA would be sweet
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah lang has some more intricately composed, melodic things that i love -- this one is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CteLJ5XmmZIhas a total of 19 views of YouTube! let's get it to 25, people.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link
lang like kottke unfortunately later on felt like he needed to try singing, which isn't necessarily bad but never more than mediocre trad folk
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
thanks for the vote of confidence guys, I hope there's appetite out there for a broader range of hot instrumental guitar playing. the way IA has built up an audience is impressive, I'm amazed that making compilations like that is financially viable, but I am always open to offers...
also going wayyy back upthread to those who wondered if dbh was a single human or had never seen footage, here's some melodic & impressionistic proof <spoilers>:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jm-HQEoRr8
he is at least something of a fahey fan; the yellow princess makes it on to the records on his site alongside the more common anglo favs like nick drake, chic, mf doom etc. his bandcamp is more up-to-date
― ogmor, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
it makes some kind of sense that the yellow princess would be his fahey album
see millions now living will never die, i remember also doug from tortoise interviewing wm tyler who was a big fan, but in general i've always felt the renewed interest in this type of music is at least partially an outgrowth of post rock
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
the bridge on his guitar is really bigconfirming that he plays a classical as i assumed
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
he's very cagey. he posted some video of a track on his latest 'bog dance' but it got removed, presumably by the man himself
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link
should have been parenthesis on (bog dance)
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link
I love the acoustic stuff on Mood; the other stuff not as much. he's obviously a great player, though
How is Time Flies?
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link
Loved that track UpperMississippi - nice one.
And it's probably terribly pretentious but this quote from Eliot (Four Quartets) is a thing I always return to:
And so each ventureIs a new beginning, a raid on the inarticulateWith shabby equipment always deterioratingIn the general mess of imprecision of feeling,Undisciplined squads of emotion. And what there is to conquerBy strength and submission, has already been discoveredOnce or twice, or several times, by men whom one cannot hopeTo emulate—but there is no competition—There is only the fight to recover what has been lostAnd found and lost again and again: and now, under conditionsThat seem unpropitious. But perhaps neither gain nor loss.For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link
You guys put me on a dbh binge today. What a terrific player, and great songs, too. Again, I sorta wish he wasn't so darn ambitious / eclectic, because I much prefer his solo acoustic pieces to his post-rock or electric blues pieces. I respect the reach, and I appreciate that he acknowledges shit like Slint and Tortoise as formative influences, but find that these detours occasionally spoil the mood (no pun intended).
I think, after two listens, that I slightly prefer Time Flies to Mood; the first song, alone, is just magnificent, and the stylistic detours I mention are especially good detours. I mean, listen to this one:
http://dbhmusic.bandcamp.com/track/climb-and-descend
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link
xpost thanks chinaski & thanks for sharing that's a nice quote & well said
i think i tend to agree w/you on DBH, the little more experimental pieces are fine, but i would say that there are very many people who do things in that vein just as well but his guitar playing, guitar tone and general compositional voice is very singular and special
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link