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the dripping sex and rock and roll of the iPod (touched with a Bono

sorry stopped reading here

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

ewwwww DNW

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

does anybody know anybody who actually uses Siri? who is actually using Siri that they are investing so much money into it?

龜, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

their entire brand working hard to encompass the common ground between ppl of different tastes and ethnicities

derailed by this one guy's summarizing that as a dripping Bono

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Bono is using Siri.

Alba, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

I guess they must be investing money in Siri, but I can't see any evidence of it. I mean, it hasn't improved since launch as far as I can see. Just tried it again with one of the suggested applications (cinema times). It returned complete garbage as usual.

Alba, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

i use siri to set timers while cooking and that's it

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

guys did you know AFP is now deprecated for everything except time machine over networks?

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/new-os-x-uses-windows-file-sharing-by-default/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

this 3 year old news done passed me by

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

^^^huh, i've never thought of that, and that alone could actually make siri 1000% more useful to me

xp timer thing

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

not surprised, smb is kind of the de facto standard and I'd imagine they're putting off changing time machine until the new filesystem rolls out next year

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

i use siri to set timers while cooking and that's it

― π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:11 PM (forty-two seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is exactly me

Clay, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

can you type at siri on macos or do you still have to speak?

i feel like i'd end up using it much more on ios if i could learn my way around its capabilities more by typing on a mac, where it would presumably be faster to respond as well as quicker to command

as it is, occasionally i try new things and they don't work and i learn my lesson and never try again

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

oh wait, 2013

so is time machine still using AFP? I would hazard a guess.... yeah

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

this is full of ideas fwiw https://hey-siri.io/

xp. yes time capsule still uses AFP i spent this weekend hating it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

I think typing at siri is about the same as what you'd get typing in the OS-wide search dialog on iOS

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

I use siri while sitting in traffic on the rare occasion

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

i use siri to set timers while cooking and that's it

― π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:11 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i use it for in-phone commands; start a timer, set me a reminder (altho you have to be REALLY SPECIFIC), send texts, open apps, start an album etc. But asking it to do anything external is a no no

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

i took one for the team and visited an audiophile forum - people seem to agree that the lightning dongle provides better sound quality than the 6S

龜, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

interesting, thanks for your efforts

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

tyvm

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

as long as you're there drag some fresh meat to the snake oil thread

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

seems like an easy way for man alive to test the dongle would be to plug the dongle into his 6S and switch between the dongle and the headphone port

龜, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

I'm still gonna get it (7+) of course cos I'm a sucker, the camera upgrade is probably worth it alone but i really don't feel like I'm making a leap forward from my 6+

― Spottie, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 05:40 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the 6 was so marginal a jump from the 5 that i still have buyer's remorse about that decision. the larger screen and 128 gb storage were great but performance-wise it just didn't feel that different.

imo you should consider waiting one more year for the prospect of rumoured new features like amoled (and hence features like always-on screen detail, potentially edge-wrapped screen). the 6+ is quick and smooth on ios 10, and the camera still holds up incredibly well.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah i could, sound advice, still thinking about it. also thinking about just doing the apple plan so i can just upgrade every year idk

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

the yearly upgrade plans are not a lot more than hype trains imo, now that phone technology is so mature that breaking your phone is really the only good argument for upgrading more often than every 2–3 years. it's not like the iphone 4 days where you could practically feel the phone ageing in your hands.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

just let me waste my money in peace would you

Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

iPhones have cost me ~Β£20/month by upgrading every year. On top of my Β£15 plan that's around Β£35/mo which seems to be what I've been paying for a phone since the Nokia 3210 days

stet, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

wait your plan is 15 pounds a month? how much data do you get with that?

Fβ™― Aβ™― (∞), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

12gb a month or something like that -- used to be unlimited.

stet, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Will anything damage them enough to stop the. going down their fool's road or will they snap back into engagement?

Or will they just continue to be the biggest tech company in the world and ngaf.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

Ngaf about anything other than thinness, I mean.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

had no idea mobile phone plans were dirt cheap in the uk

Fβ™― Aβ™― (∞), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

good luck USA

龜, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link

iPhones have cost me ~Β£20/month by upgrading every year. On top of my Β£15 plan that's around Β£35/mo which seems to be what I've been paying for a phone since the Nokia 3210 days

plans in australia are similar. thing is, prepaid deals are now so much cheaper and so much more flexible that you're always better off buying up-front if you can. on this iphone 6 i saved $5–700 over a 2yr postpaid/mobile repayment contract with network lock-in.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

I know someone who just left Apple and they said that Ive now considers the iPhone to be at final, minimum thinness. So I guess all that's left is un-bulging the camera lens.

schwantz, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

or get into the camera business

Fβ™― Aβ™― (∞), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

Ive now considers the iPhone to be at final, minimum thinness.

reasons to remove the headphone jack:

- to make the phone thinner

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

iPod touch is thinner, cmon have some ambition Ive

stet, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Not buying that

Spottie, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

Xp a really easy way to test the audio quality was to move the headphones back and forth between the dongle and the iPhone 6 Jack, which is exactly what I did. The quality was lower on the dongle. Testing apparently backs me up on this although claims that its not the kind of thing that will bother "most people" which is exactly what was said about early lossy MP3 files at the time.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link

Anyway it's done. I returned it. Not worth the extra 31/month even if I'm imagining the audio issue.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link

The quality was lower on the dongle.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 10:30 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thing is, if apple's taking away a universal audio jack, it needs to at least ensure that its replacement is clearly not worse.

man alive, as you're not only convinced it's no better but actually believe it to be worse, whether your impression is objectively accurate or mere perception, apple has failed at another of the principal expectations of removing the headphone jack – that audio quality won't be impacted, and that users won't feel they've had the best available option taken away.

i mean christ, people were putting green rings on their cds and thinking the sound quality was warmer. it shouldn't be that hard at at least match users' perceptions that lightning sound is as good or better. i've seen a lot of similar complaints, which indicates this has been a pretty monumental fuck-up.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link

"clearly not worse"

You mean like low-quality MP3 streams that people totally embrace?

You mean like crappy headphones that the vast majority of people buy?

You mean like the listening environments for most people wearing earbuds?

Consumers haven't voted on the basis of sound quality since, like, ever. Convenience is a much higher priority.

Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

Always confounds me that a lot of the big critics on ILM refuse to spend more than $100 on speakers

龜, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

Convenience is a much higher priority.

and they've already failed on that aspect so

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

i'm not saying people don't buy shit headphones, i'm saying if apple's going to replace something so ubiquitous it needs to meet expectations that the replacement won't be worse than what they had

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Yes but the worse part won't be that the dongle delivers lesser audio quality, it will be that they need a dongle at all.

Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link

FYI more than 50% of headphones sold last year (estimated at 60%) were Bluetooth.

Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

i agree, just adding man alive's experience to the pile of broken headphone jack dreams

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link


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