I HATE APPLE

at least the mouse lasts a fairly long time without having to do that

Tried the Magic Mouse several times, so annoying. Maybe it's because of my default claw grip but I hate it how it's designed to "alt-click" which means forcing your hand into a curve posture so you're only touching certain portions of the mouse.

so disruptive....brilliant

magic mouse is the pits

Magic Trackpad awesome though.

i have both at work but i think i prefer the mouse to the track pad, it's easier on my wrists

prefer in use that is, the charging thing is bullshit

there's a lady at the place i work who has been using a magic trackpad as the mouse pad for her regular old PC mouse. the person she took over for used it w/ their iMac but i guess just left the trackpad in a drawer or something. i'm not sure how she came to the conclusion that it should be used as a mouse pad but i don't have the heart to tell her what it is.

Is she holding it to the screen and moving it around?

somewhat related, I always found it funny when mac users explain why having only one mouse button is actually an advantage

this thread for instance: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/05/01/30/1826233/why-apple-makes-a-one-button-mouse

I know (from experience) that it takes at least six years to explain left- and right-clicking to my father, who was 57 in 1999 when he got his first Windows PC. Ever since he found the right button, he has insisted on using it for literally everything, all the time, for no reason at all. Everything that you or I would just click on, he right-clicks, moves the mouse the requisite six inches up to the top menu choice, "Open," and clicks. No amount of explaining will do. He just will not use the left button. Every time I give him instructions and use the verb "click," he asks me, "Right or left click?"

So don't pretend that just because you told your three-year-old, "Only use this button," that everyone else has the luxury of such obedience from users. Many users (yes, PC users) have asked me repeatedly, "Right or left click?" because to them, it's simply not self-explanatory. They don't really understand what a context menu is, let alone the rule that "the right button always makes a context menu appear." My father would waste a lot less of his time if I plugged in an Apple USB mouse to his PC (it works, I tried it.) Of course, it'd be impossible to do certain things, but it's poor software design that requires two mouse buttons.

i've been a mac user for six years and i still miss right click and middle click. they're good functions and they don't need to go away.

But OS X has had the option to enable right click for, like, ever, doesn't it work with all of their mice?

yeah but it's a double-tap on trackpads, which is fine but there's not really a middle-click equivalent

having 2/3 buttons is nice and predictable in a way that tapping on glass isn't so much (anyone with an apple tv siri remote can attest to this)

I just use BetterTouchTool to configure a 4 finger tap to be the middle click.

I buy a better mouse.

Ahh fuck. I don't have an iPhone, but what am I going to do when they finally lightening bolt the mouses?

what the hell does middle click do

Open link in new tab for me.

btw i should point out that attaching a windows-style mouse gives you all the clicks out of the box, including the middle one

I set my Logitech mouse middle click to expose

mods

https://twitter.com/Quentin_IOS/status/781604288808255489

he hates apple

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/09/30/french-guy-apple-store-steel-ball/

He is heard talking about ‘his consumer’s right’ and citing that he’s unhappy with how Apple handles his support case.

iirc he tried this with Samsung too but the phones all exploded before he hit them

https://twitter.com/mekosoff/status/783271299372183553

http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html

I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO MY COMPUTER.

lol yeah siri on my desktop is super pointless. for me anyway

Can't wait for my co-worker to almost finish a project before I go SIRI, CLOSE DOCUMENT.

since the ios10 upgrade i can't connect my iphone to my mbp running 10.7.5 because ios10 needs itunes 12.5 or later and itunes on lion goes no higher than 12.2.2. apple chat adviser recommended buying a third party usb upgrade thru amazon or similar, does anyone have experience of this, would it be secure/reliable?

usb upgrade stick for os x?

Why not use the built-in upgrade in the mac app store?

Why not use the built-in upgrade in the mac app store?

My mbp is late 2008 so not compatible with Sierra. Apple have removed all earlier macOS versions from the app store "to avoid confusion with Sierra" according to the Apple chat person. They advised my only recourse was a 3rd party USB hence my question.

Seems crazy that I can't connect the iPhone due to having an older version of iTunes when I can still connect my old ipod touch running os5 or something

usb upgrade stick for os x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00GCCV9P0/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476257552&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=os+mavericks&dpPl=1&dpID=51jTI4xZmaL&ref=plSrch

That's really annoying. Having to do anything like this seems like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! But in case it's helpful, if you actually do want Sierra I think this thing should work for you: http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html (make sure it's not going to hose your wifi though!)

Earlier versions of osx should be easy enough to find just by googling 'osx el capitan (or whatever) dmg'. I think that dude^ in the above link has some archived versions.

re sierra patcher though, worth keeping in mind that there's always the chance a future update could break compatability etc so it's poss not a great idea if you rely on your laptop day in day out..

I did the same thing, never got around to updating to El Capitan and now it's too late to do it officially. As suggested above I did find a download of it last night from one of the build-your-own Hackintosh sites, but I'm a little wary of installing before I do some more research on the legitimacy of the site.

apple is bad

apple is bad

Yup. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to check out the USB stick option I think. The mbp is 8 yrs old this Xmas but it seems a waste to just get shut of it. I've given it a new battery and ssd and it's in fine fettle.

I just can't fathom the move to stop an iPhone user from syncing/backing up their device when that is the first recommendation when you suspect something is wrong with the device.

But this is the company that said they had to get rid of the headphone socket because they needed to have courage or some such piffle. Rant over.

I've been thinking the next pro might be the time to update from my '12 air but oh look

Previous rumors and part leaks have suggested the upcoming MacBook Pro will include four USB-C ports, doing away with an SD card slot, an HDMI port, USB-A ports, and a MagSafe connection.

Would much rather have an sd slot than be able to chop sushi with the lid end of my laptop. And getting rid of magsafe is insane, that is a brilliant feature that has saved my mac from injury loads of times. Fuck these hubristic arseholes.

but whatever, they've already done it with the 12 inch macbook so I'm sure it'll happen

my magsafe connector went bad on my mbp, wouldn't charge anymore but would stay powered when plugged in. I took it to an apple store two weeks ago, and after a week's service they replaced the magsafe connector, gave me a new charger, and replaced the screen (which I didn't even know was failing, evidently the layer atop it was slowly peeling off, I just thought it was dirty). I don't have applecare but apparently under a european consumer law they had to do all this for free. yay Europe!

*falls into a crumpled britisher heap*

As if on cue, shortly after I returned my 7, my 6's battery life became comically bad, like I fully charge it 2-3x per 24 hours now. Thinking about either a 6s or an SE

Lemme know who in nyc has a good deal on SEs, I think that's where I'm headed next

I think retail pricing is standardized? However Costco often has deals on iphones that get around this with rebates in costco cash card form or some kind of special extra accessory pack you get. The only tradeoff is that their wireless kiosks tend to not be the well-oiled machines that like official verizon stores are and it can be a slight pain to purchase through them.

Best Buy has $50 off the Verizon and Sprint 64gb SE ( $50 gift card if you're on AT&T) for the next couple of days if you do the two year installment plan.

I ended up buying a used 6 on Swappa.com for $319 and then immediately traded it in for full $649 credit on a 7 with Verizon. Not a bad deal. Don't like the new home button.

Hm what kind of trade in would I get for my 128gb 6+, I wonder.

i wonder too, got the same