prefer in use that is, the charging thing is bullshit
― marcos, Friday, 23 September 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
there's a lady at the place i work who has been using a magic trackpad as the mouse pad for her regular old PC mouse. the person she took over for used it w/ their iMac but i guess just left the trackpad in a drawer or something. i'm not sure how she came to the conclusion that it should be used as a mouse pad but i don't have the heart to tell her what it is.
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
Is she holding it to the screen and moving it around?
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
somewhat related, I always found it funny when mac users explain why having only one mouse button is actually an advantage
this thread for instance: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/05/01/30/1826233/why-apple-makes-a-one-button-mouse
I know (from experience) that it takes at least six years to explain left- and right-clicking to my father, who was 57 in 1999 when he got his first Windows PC. Ever since he found the right button, he has insisted on using it for literally everything, all the time, for no reason at all. Everything that you or I would just click on, he right-clicks, moves the mouse the requisite six inches up to the top menu choice, "Open," and clicks. No amount of explaining will do. He just will not use the left button. Every time I give him instructions and use the verb "click," he asks me, "Right or left click?"So don't pretend that just because you told your three-year-old, "Only use this button," that everyone else has the luxury of such obedience from users. Many users (yes, PC users) have asked me repeatedly, "Right or left click?" because to them, it's simply not self-explanatory. They don't really understand what a context menu is, let alone the rule that "the right button always makes a context menu appear." My father would waste a lot less of his time if I plugged in an Apple USB mouse to his PC (it works, I tried it.) Of course, it'd be impossible to do certain things, but it's poor software design that requires two mouse buttons.
So don't pretend that just because you told your three-year-old, "Only use this button," that everyone else has the luxury of such obedience from users. Many users (yes, PC users) have asked me repeatedly, "Right or left click?" because to them, it's simply not self-explanatory. They don't really understand what a context menu is, let alone the rule that "the right button always makes a context menu appear." My father would waste a lot less of his time if I plugged in an Apple USB mouse to his PC (it works, I tried it.) Of course, it'd be impossible to do certain things, but it's poor software design that requires two mouse buttons.
― niels, Saturday, 24 September 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link
i've been a mac user for six years and i still miss right click and middle click. they're good functions and they don't need to go away.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 24 September 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link
But OS X has had the option to enable right click for, like, ever, doesn't it work with all of their mice?
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 September 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link
yeah but it's a double-tap on trackpads, which is fine but there's not really a middle-click equivalent
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:19 (seven years ago) link
having 2/3 buttons is nice and predictable in a way that tapping on glass isn't so much (anyone with an apple tv siri remote can attest to this)
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link
I just use BetterTouchTool to configure a 4 finger tap to be the middle click.
― Jeff, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:22 (seven years ago) link
I buy a better mouse.
Ahh fuck. I don't have an iPhone, but what am I going to do when they finally lightening bolt the mouses?
― pplains, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:31 (seven years ago) link
what the hell does middle click do
― 龜, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:53 (seven years ago) link
Open link in new tab for me.
― Jeff, Saturday, 24 September 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link
btw i should point out that attaching a windows-style mouse gives you all the clicks out of the box, including the middle one
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 24 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
I set my Logitech mouse middle click to expose
― Spottie, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
mods
― 龜, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Quentin_IOS/status/781604288808255489
― heaven parker (anagram), Friday, 30 September 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link
he hates apple
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 30 September 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/09/30/french-guy-apple-store-steel-ball/
He is heard talking about ‘his consumer’s right’ and citing that he’s unhappy with how Apple handles his support case.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 30 September 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link
iirc he tried this with Samsung too but the phones all exploded before he hit them
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 30 September 2016 12:12 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/mekosoff/status/783271299372183553
― 龜, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link
http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO MY COMPUTER.
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
lol yeah siri on my desktop is super pointless. for me anyway
― Spottie, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
Can't wait for my co-worker to almost finish a project before I go SIRI, CLOSE DOCUMENT.
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
since the ios10 upgrade i can't connect my iphone to my mbp running 10.7.5 because ios10 needs itunes 12.5 or later and itunes on lion goes no higher than 12.2.2. apple chat adviser recommended buying a third party usb upgrade thru amazon or similar, does anyone have experience of this, would it be secure/reliable?
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
usb upgrade stick for os x?
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link
Why not use the built-in upgrade in the mac app store?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link
My mbp is late 2008 so not compatible with Sierra. Apple have removed all earlier macOS versions from the app store "to avoid confusion with Sierra" according to the Apple chat person. They advised my only recourse was a 3rd party USB hence my question.
Seems crazy that I can't connect the iPhone due to having an older version of iTunes when I can still connect my old ipod touch running os5 or something
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 07:31 (seven years ago) link
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00GCCV9P0/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476257552&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=os+mavericks&dpPl=1&dpID=51jTI4xZmaL&ref=plSrch
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 07:33 (seven years ago) link
That's really annoying. Having to do anything like this seems like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! But in case it's helpful, if you actually do want Sierra I think this thing should work for you: http://dosdude1.com/sierrapatch.html (make sure it's not going to hose your wifi though!)
Earlier versions of osx should be easy enough to find just by googling 'osx el capitan (or whatever) dmg'. I think that dude^ in the above link has some archived versions.
― sktsh, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 12:12 (seven years ago) link
re sierra patcher though, worth keeping in mind that there's always the chance a future update could break compatability etc so it's poss not a great idea if you rely on your laptop day in day out..
― sktsh, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link
I did the same thing, never got around to updating to El Capitan and now it's too late to do it officially. As suggested above I did find a download of it last night from one of the build-your-own Hackintosh sites, but I'm a little wary of installing before I do some more research on the legitimacy of the site.
― early rejecter, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link
apple is bad
― marcos, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link
Yup. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to check out the USB stick option I think. The mbp is 8 yrs old this Xmas but it seems a waste to just get shut of it. I've given it a new battery and ssd and it's in fine fettle.
I just can't fathom the move to stop an iPhone user from syncing/backing up their device when that is the first recommendation when you suspect something is wrong with the device.
But this is the company that said they had to get rid of the headphone socket because they needed to have courage or some such piffle. Rant over.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
I've been thinking the next pro might be the time to update from my '12 air but oh look
Previous rumors and part leaks have suggested the upcoming MacBook Pro will include four USB-C ports, doing away with an SD card slot, an HDMI port, USB-A ports, and a MagSafe connection.
Would much rather have an sd slot than be able to chop sushi with the lid end of my laptop. And getting rid of magsafe is insane, that is a brilliant feature that has saved my mac from injury loads of times. Fuck these hubristic arseholes.
― sktsh, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link
but whatever, they've already done it with the 12 inch macbook so I'm sure it'll happen
my magsafe connector went bad on my mbp, wouldn't charge anymore but would stay powered when plugged in. I took it to an apple store two weeks ago, and after a week's service they replaced the magsafe connector, gave me a new charger, and replaced the screen (which I didn't even know was failing, evidently the layer atop it was slowly peeling off, I just thought it was dirty). I don't have applecare but apparently under a european consumer law they had to do all this for free. yay Europe!
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link
*falls into a crumpled britisher heap*
― sktsh, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:19 (seven years ago) link
As if on cue, shortly after I returned my 7, my 6's battery life became comically bad, like I fully charge it 2-3x per 24 hours now. Thinking about either a 6s or an SE
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link
Lemme know who in nyc has a good deal on SEs, I think that's where I'm headed next
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
I think retail pricing is standardized? However Costco often has deals on iphones that get around this with rebates in costco cash card form or some kind of special extra accessory pack you get. The only tradeoff is that their wireless kiosks tend to not be the well-oiled machines that like official verizon stores are and it can be a slight pain to purchase through them.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
Best Buy has $50 off the Verizon and Sprint 64gb SE ( $50 gift card if you're on AT&T) for the next couple of days if you do the two year installment plan.
I ended up buying a used 6 on Swappa.com for $319 and then immediately traded it in for full $649 credit on a 7 with Verizon. Not a bad deal. Don't like the new home button.
― early rejecter, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Hm what kind of trade in would I get for my 128gb 6+, I wonder.
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
i wonder too, got the same
― Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Was that with a new verizon account? They only offer 200 for my 6 but I'm a returning customer.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time), I think because after they got rid of swipe to unlock I started using the touch ID feature and just maybe wore it out?
Anyway, now I gotta figure out the cheapest way to get a new phone from Sprint, and it is not as easy to figure out as it was when you used to get part of the phone subsidized with a two-year contract.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
No, I've been with them for a while, but it was a limited time offer -- maybe the first week or two after the 7 went on sale. Looks like they're only offering $200 for a 6 and $300 for a 6S now. If you can hold off for a little bit there are usually some Black Friday deals.
― early rejecter, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time)
I found out recently that most Chinese avoid using the home button on their iPhones, possibly to avoid wearing it out.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/chinese-use-assistivetouch-on-iphone-2015-5?r=US&IR=T
Not sure if they've stopped doing it on the new ones with no physical home button.
― Alba, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
No physical home button is a big draw for me now that I know it wears out. These things are pricey investments. Unfortunately assistive touch is really, really cumbersome: it adds several extra clicks to even the simplest tasks, and when you have carpal tunnel (I know, lame) those clicks add up.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
how does it add clicks?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link