Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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yeah i could listen to a whole lot of that band

live disc of another self portrait also so great

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

I don't disagree at all. I just don't know how I can fit something of this size into my life.

Duke, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure about those EU laws, but over at expectingrain.com they're calling it "the Live 1966 Copyright Extension Collection" and I really can't think of other good reasons for this timely change in approach to the bootleg series

niels, Thursday, 29 September 2016 08:12 (seven years ago) link

we have a thread on this but I'm not sure it helps to clear anything up:

The copyright extension release thread (w/r/t EU copyright law)

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 29 September 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link

I guess the point is that the extension from 50 to 70 years only applies to released material.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:01 (seven years ago) link

Photo of the new box's contents:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtifXS_W8AACaeD.jpg:large

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

that's a lotta dylan 66

tylerw, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

was it common to tour Australia back then?

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

haha I love that he flew back to Melbourne in April for a single gig

sleeve, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

?

He played Melbourne on April 19 and 20, among his other Australian dates. The box isn't chronological, though; the April 20 soundboard is disc 3, and the April 19 audience tape is disc 35.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i don't know how common it was to play australia then -- beatles and the stones played there around then, i think?

tylerw, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Pretty Things got banned from there in 65 or so. Tarfumes probably has the deets, but The Who had a disastrous tour there as well.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

The Who and the Small Faces played there in early '68, but the Who hated it so much that they didn't go back until 2004.

I think Zeppelin only did one tour there, in '71-'72?

Louis Armstrong toured in '64, with Angus Young in attendance at one of the shows.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

ha xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

On closer inspection, the Pretty Things were banned from New Zealand

When was the last time you visited Australia, have you been back since the tour of ‘65?

Dick Taylor: We never actually did visit Australia. We were in New Zealand. I’m not sure if we were scheduled to come to Australia or not but we got in a bit of trouble in New Zealand. I mean the shows went great in New Zealand [laughs], don’t get me wrong. We were apparently behaving outrageously and there were questions asked in parliament about us, and we were told never to darken their shores again. And consequently there never was an Australian tour, so this’ll be the first time we’ve trodden your shores.

From: http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/the-pretty-things-we-tried-every-sweetie-in-the-shop/830945

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Townshend punched the first reporter he saw when getting off the plane, and Steve Marriott told a journalist to fuck off when asked about his pot bust, resulting in unrelenting bad press for the tour.

Just the trip down there was (probably still is) such a pain (Ronnie Lane said he saw three sunrises on the flight(s) down) that bands figure it's not worth it to make it a regular thing. Even in the Beatles Anthology, Ringo has a pained expression 30 years later talking about the "helluva long flight."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

It is a gruelling flight. Australian cricketer David Boon used it to set a record

http://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/david-boon-downs-52-cans-of-beer-on-a-single-flight-307274

badg, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

Kind of relevant/funny (grabbed via the hoffman forums) -- a still from Antonioni's Blow Up
http://www.idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/images/bu/burickytick.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan, the Deluxe 10th Anniversary Edition of the film will be released on October 28th, and will mark its first release on Blu-ray (standard DVD is also available). These 10th Anniversary Editions of the film all feature 2 1/2 hours of bonus and never-before-seen content, including extended scenes from the film and full-length interviews with Scorsese, Dave van Ronk and Liam Clancy. Both formats are also available in a Special Edition Deluxe Box that will include both Blu-ray and DVD versions of the film and bonus content, as well as an exclusively produced Bob Dylan magazine that features reproductions of historical articles about the artist, plus three high-quality lithographic photo prints of Dylan, all in a deluxe portfolio

BOX SET SPECIAL FEATURES:

Two-disc Blu-Ray edition & two-disc DVD edition in a deluxe portfolio
Three 8x10 lithographic photo prints
Special edition Bob Dylan magazine featuring historical articles and photos
BLU RAY & DVD FEATURES:

Unedited “Apothecary Scene” from the 1966 U.K. tour
Interview with director Martin Scorsese on the making of the film
Extended interviews from Liam Clancy and Dave Van Ronk
Original trailer for the DVD release
BOB DYLAN PERFORMANCES:

“Blowin’ in the Wind” – live on TV : March 1963
“Girl from the North Country” – from unaired Canadian TV special “Quest”: February 1964
“Man of Constant Sorrow” – live on TV : March 1964
“Mr. Tambourine Man” – Newport Folk Festival : July 26, 1964
“Love Minus Zero/No Limit” – London, England : May 1965
“Like a Rolling Stone” – Live in Newcastle, England : May 21, 1966
“One Too Many Mornings” – Live in Liverpool, England : May 1, 1966
OTHER FEATURES:

Unused promotional spot for “Positively 4th St.”
“I Can’t Leave Her Behind” – work in progress in hotel room Glasgow, May 19th, 1966

(that's the deluxe Deluxe; for diff editions---I might just get the cheapo Deluxe DVD---check his site)

dow, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link

Links on this page will let you compare contents of each edition: https://ndh10.com/

dow, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

As Matos pointed out, the film came out 11 years ago in July so this is about 70 weeks late

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 06:55 (seven years ago) link

Guess "11th Anniversary" doesn't have the same ring to it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 06:55 (seven years ago) link

https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-The-Bootleg-Series-Collection/release/7730624
^^impressive enough box

kinda wanna do a new bootleg series poll, either as vol 13 anticipation or after its release

listening to vol 5 Rolling Thunder Revue today - I don't really like it all that much, too heavy, hectic, rushed... the Biograph set does feature the ultimate live "Isis" though, and that's from same tour iirc

I'd rank vols 1-3, Live 1966, Tell Tale Signs as top releases

No Direction Home, Another Self Portrait and Complete Basement Tapes very good mid-tier (ASP and CBT great albums, NDH not a good album but some fantastic tracks featured)

Whitmark Demos and Rolling Thunder bottom, RT cuz I'm not much into the shouting style etc. and Whitmark Demos cuz I felt like I'd heard it all already

can't recall vol 6 too well, not sure what to make of vol 12

niels, Sunday, 9 October 2016 09:15 (seven years ago) link

listening to vol 6 now I remember it is excellent, need to revisit proper but probably place it in top tier

niels, Sunday, 9 October 2016 09:20 (seven years ago) link

6 is good, apart from Baez ruining it. Nice to hear "fun Bob"

Number None, Sunday, 9 October 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

Pretty Things got banned from there in 65 or so. Tarfumes probably has the deets, but The Who had a disastrous tour there as well.

― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:30 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ugly tHings had a special book dedicated to the Pretty Things Australian tour released several years ago. Not sure if it's still available but since Mike Stax's fandom of the Pretty Things is pretty deep he may have kept it in print.

Stevolende, Sunday, 9 October 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

Sorry that would be NZ and Australia was Small Faces/Who

Stevolende, Sunday, 9 October 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Has there been any talk of a Grateful Dead set to make something valid official rather than the mess the released set was?

Stevolende, Sunday, 9 October 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

Andy Greene reports:
Bob Dylan's new box set The 1966 Live Recordings isn't hitting shelves until November 11th, but his team is already thinking about their next archival release. For the thirteenth chapter of the Bootleg Series, the musician is strongly leaning toward a box set devoted to his gospel period, which ran from 1979 to 1981. The only other set under major consideration is one that chronicles the 1974 Blood on the Tracks sessions.
----from http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-plotting-gospel-years-bootleg-series-w444677?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&ut

dow, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Woah, either would be highly welcome in these quarters

doug watson, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link

Would definitely pick up a gospel-era set.

o. nate, Friday, 21 October 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

super pumped about the gospel era set!!! i remember a Mojo article about some of those tours and they sounded pretty crazy, like raging band and a really adversarial, fire and brimstone vibe between him and the audience...

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

yeah good idea to do a period outside of the 60s. will be interesting to see how they put it together, considering the kitchen sink approach of the last few releases.
live shows from this period smoke, he had an amazing band.
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=3087

tylerw, Friday, 21 October 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

Gospel set would be interesting but the idea that it would be more desirable than a Blood on the Tracks era set is wtf.

heaven parker (anagram), Friday, 21 October 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

yeah i mean i've wanted to hear the 2 version of the album (ny and minneapolis) sorted by date in their entirety since forever

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Think I might be getting off the bus at this point.

Mark G, Friday, 21 October 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

Same. Blood never did it for me, outside of a few songs; his band just seemed kind of meh on that record. And I could never get into the gospel stuff.

I'd really be into a never-ending tour box, provided it starts around '97-'98 or so.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 October 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

The settings are very, very secondary to the songs and the singer on Blood 2.0, much more so than any of his other 1970-1980 albums, far as I remember, but I think it works out okay. 1970's New Morning (tweaking the John Wesley Harding sound design, adding a few more performers at times, with more atmospheric changes, shadings)is also very spare, but more striking than the second Blood, because the players (and singers) are more distinctive (for the most part, though dig the New Riders steel guitarist on a couple Blood 2.0 tracks). Seems like the original Blood would be like that, with Eric Weissburg etc aboard, although xgau previewed it and said "it struck me as a sellout to the memory of his acoustic period." I dunno, I wouldn't mind hearing it all, though hope it's not like that slow strummy version of "Tangled Up In Blue", frequently on YouTube (he's sitting on a stool in a Rolling Thunder lull, with the melting clownface).

Always thought Endless Tour might eventually be like Dick's/Dave's Picks....

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

i think the gospel era one could be cool, another self-portrait was def not something ppl were clamoring for and that turned out to be among the most satisfying of all the bootleg series

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I was shocked at how great Another Self Portrait was...although, I haven't played the actual Self Portrait disc more than once.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

also tell-tale signs had a lot of gems on it and held together

in a way i almost prefer the ones from less "classic" eras because they tend to reframe his career in interesting ways

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah tell tale signs and ASP are definitely the most interesting Bootleg Series releases -- even moreso since there was a ton of stuff on each that had never been bootlegged.

tylerw, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

those and the first bootleg release

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

One spin of the original Self-Portrait is about right, although I wouldn't mind hearing "Days of '49" again.

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

another self portrait is probably the dylan thing i've listened to the most in the past 4-5 years ... so great.

tylerw, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

If The Complete Basement Tapes counts re the regular Bootleg Series, it's def one of the best therein (even if you've got A Tree With Roots, cause there's even more songs and also for inst a longer "Bourbon Street" and better sound)
Also Vol. 1-3, if that's the one subtitled Series of Dreams.

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

But yeah wow what I've heard of Another S-P (gotta get the version w Isle of Wight, right?)

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

i mean, they're all great, let's be real.

tylerw, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Also---seems like I've seen this listed as part of the Bootleg Series, although it was Japan-only (nevertheless, some good prices for second-hand online). Seems like it should be in there, with lots of OOP and prev. unreleased, plus cherrypicks from legit oldies (sure wish they'd incl. more from the OOP Tribute To Woody Guthrie, like the scorched earth "I Ain't Got No Home" and cathartic "Dear Mrs. Roosevelt", electric as hell):
https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-Live-1961-2000-Thirty-Nine-Years-Of-Great-Concert-Performances/release/2582881

dow, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah that one is pretty haphazard, but has plenty of good stuff on it. the "tryin to get to heaven" is fantastic. and anyone skeptical about a gospel era bootleg series should check the "dead man" and "slow train" included.

tylerw, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link


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