Orson Welles

The only difference is the soundtrack? English i'm p sure

ENGLISH.

Replacing now broken link because J-Ro slightly reshuffled web page:
https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2016/09/nightmare-as-funhouse-ride-orson-welless-the-trial/

Thanks guys.

I suppose it makes sense that the English version would be preferable; guess I was still haunted by how my first viewing of Herzog's Nosferatu was ruined by clicking the "English" option.

While I didn't love it, The Immortal Story is Welles' most homoerotic film.

Nice use of Satie, and the sailor was yummy, but The Immortal Story is a mildly interesting curio at best.

ie better than F for Fake

Bogdanovich teasing on That Movie again

https://thefilmstage.com/news/editing-on-orson-welles-the-other-side-of-the-wind-aiming-for-spring-start/

I finished Simon Callow's third volume two weeks ago. Rather good on sorting out who was responsible for the TOE screening debacle, explaining the complicated Welles- Mac Liammóir-Edwards axis during the filming of Othello, and the disastrous production of Rhinoceros, during which Welles realizes he hates Larry Olivier after all.

I hope to move this June so i can find out which box(es) the first 2 volumes are in.

If you can't find them, every public library in America has'em.

I wish.

Other Side of the Wind to be released by Netflix:

http://www.wellesnet.com/other-side-of-the-wind-footage-netflix-to-release-orson-welles-film/

wowowowow

sounds horrifying tbh

even if it sucks it'll be fascinating

(fwiw F for Fake is probably my second favorite Welles after CK)

Finding all the detailing of archiving/preservation of most interest -- this turned out to be a smart move over the last eighteen months:

Unknown to many, Rymsza had a team quietly at work at LTC during the lengthy negotiations. Each film can was opened and the footage checked for signs of deterioration. Metadata and handwritten information from each reel or film can was collected and entered into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. The footage was then transferred onto modern cores and prepped for its 4K scan at Technicolor. The sound elements, contained on quarter-inch analog audio tapes, were packaged for their eventual conversion into digital files. The materials were placed in moisture-proof bags with absorbent paper, securely boxed and then packed onto eight pallets for shipment.

"We definitely made good use of that time," Rymsza said. "We have a very good sense from an inventory of what's what. It's extremely well-organized."

i've seen the first 40 minutes on a bootleg dvd and i love it. as long as they keep jesus franco out of it (shouldn't be too difficult what with him being dead and all) it should be a great watch.

The agreement calls for producers to deliver to Netflix, among other elements, a 35mm print of the completed film, which leaves the door open to some type of theatrical release.

You better bet yer fuckin' ass.

Someone said that all of Welles' films, despite some stylistic/thematic resemblance, were all sui generis. I doubt this cut of OSOTW will be "horrifying," but based of the clips and accounts it should be an ungainly, arresting thing, whether it's good or not.

(might be received more like recent Malick then like Chimes at Midnight)

xxp

the thing i'm most worried about is that it's the sort of film that _ought_ to be seen on a bootleg dvd. it is, by design, an unfinished mess.

ya sure? i'm sure OW wanted it to feel "70s" and improvisational but i think he wanted to finish it, and for it not to be a mess. None of his finished (signed) films are messes, exactly, not even the multiple Mr Arkadins.

well, the conceit is that a washed-up, aging director had a party on what turned out to be the last day of his life and invited everybody with a camera there. at that party, he showed the unfinished rushes of his film in progress. so what i saw, at least, cuts between those unfinished rushes and "guerilla" footage filmed on about every kind of camera imaginable at the party. my feeling is that "chaotic mess" is kind of baked into that structure.

The summaries I've read of his working method -- Welles writing scraps of dialogue on 5x7 cards which we would give to an amused John Huston -- don't augur well for what we'll see.

I'm more disappointed that he never got to film The Big Brass Ring

i guess if i'm worried about anything it's about the way welles handled the homosexuality - that part of the story wasn't really prevalent in the first 40 minutes i saw, but it apparently starts becoming important in a major way later in the film, and that aspect of it might well turn out to be badly dated.

The summaries I've read of his working method -- Welles writing scraps of dialogue on 5x7 cards which we would give to an amused John Huston -- don't augur well for what we'll see.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

hell, i'm just glad welles got rid of rich little.

Homosexuality's in his and Oja Kodar's script for TBBR too, and, arguably, in every one of his films (especially The Immortal Story). I suppose he saw it as an form of self-love.

there's a lot of queer in The Trial, too, more than i remembered

if it's not bigotry (and i haven't seen any in him previously) i don't give a shit about "badly dated." Films were made when they were made.

Morbz otm

so do Bogdanovich & Co have more OW editorial-intention evidence for this than the guys who did It's All True?

I can't pin down why, but I have this deep distrust of Bogdanovich

http://www.movies.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2i27jiv.jpg

"But...I am here. Can you not believe?"

I feel like he really thinks he is that guy, and that is the problem

But he directed this oh wait

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Sir,_with_Love_II

Kind of a Tarantino-esque film nerd who did a couple decent films but I think mainly of him drooling over the fact Orson Welles would hang out with him

He did a number of good to excellent films, actually. I think his respect for and knowledge of Welles probably makes him as good a candidate as any to be involved... assuming that he's crowding 80 isn't a mitigating factor.

btw he was a critic first, which T Who Shall Not Be Named most assuredly isn't.

very fair and I appreciate your analysis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bogdanovich#Film_critic

Who the Devil Made It is essential.

also if Wiki is to be believed, he wrote his first book about Welles 9 years before they became friends.

oh gosh

I completely misremembered

it's from this bit of the great outdoor fight

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Akrakabo is really awesome, love the traditional breaking out from behind the modern veil at the end. I think I went back to the 2 minute mark and re-listened to the end 2 or 3 times in a row. Will listen to Accelerate for sure. I don't have much knowledge of Bachata but your comment has me intrigued. i feel like afro pop has a natural lean into the carribean music scene of course, but i would be curious to listen for the links to more classic afro-latin music, perhaps this is already happening? like wizkid-popcaan is a natural fit of course, but what about Wizkid teaming up with Mexican or Columbian pop-stars?

speaking of wizkid, Sweet Love is fantastic, happy to see he stuck with the Yoruba as well. This is maybe my favourite first blush of a Wizkid song, normally he takes a bit for me to really get into. Maybe that bodes well for its shot at breaking out internationally. What do you guys figure his track to a breakout US hit is? Now that he has name recognition from One Dance, does he hope for a streaming hit that breaks though? or would he get enough of a push to get on radio before that? i assume the former, but not sure if he gets a push on radio due to the deal. And does he get on some spotify recommended playlists?

fuckin love Thando Lok'dlala, Nkwz should sing on every SA house song. I feel like DrumeticBoyz have turned a corner toward pop, but managing to stay a bit true to their GQOM roots. I agree longneck, definitely got some of Babes affect on it for sure.

dog latin, are you around? there is new Eddy Kenzo, called Jubilation

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I like it, not as much as Sitya Loss, but another great track, curious to hear from another Kenzo fan

really love this new durban track too, Colours Of Sound - Emuva (feat. SneMusiq). brutal name for the DJ's but this song is getting me thru some cold winter days. feels like driving around a rich neighbourhood and not giving a shit that the folks in it are looking down on you.

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/The fundamental level of these people's unseriousness contrasted with the seriousness of their jobs is fucking mindblowing./

A different story in the Senate, really.

"It’s true Democrats hold only nine of the 20 seats on the committee, and would only have been able to condition Rosenstein’s approval on his willingness to appoint a special prosecutor if they had stood together and persuaded at least one Republican to join them. But had the parties been reversed, the Republican Party would have formed a united phalanx to demand that Rosenstein, /as a patriotic American/, must look beyond party and promise to give the country a truly independent, non-partisan investigation. There would have been press conferences with all nine senators wearing flag pins and looking stern, a major media offensive asking which Democrat on the committee cared enough about this nation to join them, and possibly the composition of some songs about brave deputy attorneys general.

"Instead, the Democrats only managed some grumbling and a few uncoordinated questions at the hearing."

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/07/senate-democrats-blow-best-chance-to-demand-special-russia-prosecutor🔗/

^^ No, I don't understand this post either. I was just reading the thread and then the app (or a third man) generated this post.

Thought those were some of Welles' 5x7 dialogue cards : )

@labuzamovies
The only real concern I see is what Netflix will do with the 35mm. Do they even have a vault?

they can use an orange is the new black jail cell set

they could invest in a norwegian insane asylum

Ignatiy V on the 75th anniv of Ambersons

http://www.avclub.com/article/75-years-later-orson-welles-troubled-follow-citize-251171

next year at Cannes?

http://www.wellesnet.com/netflix-eyes-cannes-for-the-other-side-of-the-wind-premiere/

hfs "My Lunches With Orson" does not disappoint! Dying @ his petty European prejudices ("Sardinians have stubby fingers. Croatians have short necks. Everybody knows these things.")