This disgusts me. It makes me wretch.
Good job subs. Shame you missed out the indefinite article.
― the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 23 April 2009 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link
how can she eat so many minstrels when genocide is happening right now?
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
For how much longer must we tolerate Tanya Gold?
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 23 April 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
She is terrible, like a bold child.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Who the fuck sucks a minstrel?
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 23 April 2009 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link
A minstrel's wife?
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I have a morbid fascination with TG because I still can't believe she was shameless enough to write this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/jul/19/familyandrelationships5
― Stevie T, Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I used to stand at parties drinking vodka, like a small Judy Garland, drooling at his Aryan blondness.
Hang on a minute...
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Adolf Hitler himself could have written that
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I find her a bit blousy and if she didn't keep mentioning Oxbridge you'd never guess that she went beyond remedial ed.
― suggest bánh mi (suzy), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:10 (fifteen years ago) link
He had become beautiful: half-Irish, half-black
This reminds me, last night I was drinking with some pals next to the canal in Victoria Park, as you do, when this guy stopped and said in full Cockney "Is vat a Dub accent?". He then proceeded to tell us he had moved to London from County Meath in 1970, and he'd lost his accent completely because in those days you'd be beaten up for having an Irish accent. He was v angry about British oppression of the Irish.
Then he introduced himself. "I'm Desmond. IT'S NOT A BLACK NAME. My whole faaakin life people say 'that's a black name'"
I really wanted to reply "My name's Malcome Exe, it's not a black name!"
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link
should have said to him "there is an old African saying..."
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/10/11/desmond460.jpg
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link
did he mean 'Black Irish'?
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Coupla weeks back, a black guy started talking to me on the bus 'cos he thought I was Irish then when I got off the bus this really small and angry Irishman came over to me and said, "Was he hassling you? Those bastards fucking hate us. Don't they know we're the blacks of Europe?"
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't really know, we said Desmond is an Irish name. Then he began discussing Montserrat, where many black people are called "Paddy O'Reilly" etc due to slaves being sent there. He had some angry point about Irish slaves being worth less than black slaves which I tried to salvage with a "Oh I'd say they were alright!! Too fond of this stuff *points at can of beer*" but he was like "no they didn't have time for beer, they were working 20 hours a day!"
x-post that's robbed from Roddy Doyle, "The Irish are the ni***ers of Europe, and Dubliners are the n***ers of Ireland"
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't really feel the urge to discuss his literary references with him, to be honest
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I tried to salvage with a "Oh I'd say they were alright!! Too fond of this stuff *points at can of beer*" but he was like "no they didn't have time for beer, they were working 20 hours a day!"
I hate it when people do this
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
"Was he hassling you? Those bastards fucking hate us. Don't they know we're the blacks of Europe?"
If you were feeling literal-minded, you could have responded with "no, the blacks of Europe are the blacks of Europe".
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link
That 'blacks of Europe' line always makes me think "Why are you beating us up? Don't you know you're supposed to be patronising us about how we all like the singing and the dancing?"
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
so the small angry Irishman thought Tom was Irish as well ha ha
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link
really Tom you must stop carrying that pig under your arm on the bus
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
it's always funny when you meet fervently "Irish" people who have lived in another country for the majority of their lives. if you met this bloke last night you'd reckon he was about as Irish as a decent transport system.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
It must have been the Stephen Hunt-style cravat and cap that did it
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Sort of overdressing a pig that, eh?
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link
the cravat does impair the flavour tbh
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link
fervently "Irish" people who've lived in another country for their entire lives are the worst
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link
fuckin racist
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Noel Gallagher tho yes
ah come on now
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:13 (fifteen years ago) link
steady on
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
was mostly thinking of the Americans
you do get it with second generation English kids whose parents have raised them in a bubble of intense Irishness though
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Was thinking about this a while ago after a) discovering that a local Irish-accented DJ/promoter who usually gets described - including by himself - as "that Irish guy" was born and bred in London b) listening to some Northern Irish people ranting about Shane MacGowan for similar reasons, but then I felt all funny, cz obviously I wouldn't want to catch myself thinking "how dare these second-generation immigrants still have an accent and play in bands influenced by traditional music" regarding other nationalities
(spelling out the obvious, sorry)
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 23 April 2009 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link
what's 'that irish guy's name', out of interest?
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
desmond
― genei-jin & tonic (cozwn), Thursday, 23 April 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Stevie's link to TG upthread is indeed astonishing. What a wastrel, what a wanton, what a wretch.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 April 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link
That's why I was excited to read two excellently acerbic columns by a writer I'd previously never heard of
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 April 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
desmond's not a fucking irish name
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link
it's not a black name either. what race of name is it at all?
― Local Garda, Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Origin of the name Desmond:
A borrowing from the Irish, Desmond originated as a surname from the Irish place-name Deas-Mhumhna (South Munster) in the form of O'Deasmhumhnaigh (descendant of the Desmond man).
Not Irish my arse.
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
The original Earldom of Desmond, based on land holdings in Munster belonged the Anglo-Norman FitzGerald family hem hem.
― Stevie T, Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
sadly i have never met an Irishman named Porkpie
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
it alctually originates from the french des mondes, meaning "of the world"- irish equivalent "leis an domhain"- modernised- lesley anderson
you're talking out yer arse.
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
http://assets.gearlive.com/tvenvy/blogimages/desmond.png
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 23 April 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
That Gold piece is gold. The pic of her reading on her bed!
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 April 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
It says on the Guardian website that she’s freelance, and maybe that’s a personal choice which allows her to write for loads of different publications and cover a wider range of subjects. But regardless, the Guardian should snap her up while they can and commission her to write about all sorts of things in her inimitable style.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 April 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Truly, she has displaced the Nazis as history's greatest monster.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 23 April 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Petridis, you prick: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/24/bob-dylan-together-review
― the pinefox, Friday, 24 April 2009 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously, what the fuck is he on about
― Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Friday, 24 April 2009 09:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/contributor/2007/09/26/alexis_petridis_140x140.jpg
the implication seemed to be that the White House might consider putting everything on hold until President Obama worked out the vital message Dylan had to impart regarding American foreign policy.
*puts little finger to corner of mouth*
― Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Friday, 24 April 2009 10:00 (fifteen years ago) link