I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary lulls him into thinking she's not going to needle him this go around, and just subtly find ways to force him to talk about the things on his own, because then not only does he look bad, he then can't even claim she brought it up.

and best believe this item, even with less than 48 hours prep time, is gonna get added into the fray. but it'll be an ace in the hole cos, well, she kinda has a lot more ammo than at the first debate, kinda amazing considering IT JUST HAPPENED

lol Fox has also excised the "grab them by the pussy" line

You're probably right, she'll bring it up because she can, and because there's no defense, all Trump can do is dig himself a deeper hole. Personally, I wouldn't; the tape's out there, nothing more needs to be done. Anyway, she won't have to bring it up; it'll be brought up by a questioner, and if not--if it's allowed, I'm not sure--by a moderator.

the thing that bugs me about the "tu quoque" defenses is that, I get that dummies are quick to use it, but I sorta want to ask them "ok, even if you're right, you've proven that other people say this thing too and might be hypocrites, but do you *personally* think it's ok or *not bad* to say something like this, and would you be ok with someone who talked like that driving your daughter to school, teaching her class, supervising her prom?". like what is your 'actual opinion' on what he said?

that's what makes it a fallacy

I'm curious whether the Hillary team is hearing this for the first time too, or if it came from their camp. It must be fun getting to strategize on things like this.

i keep thinking about this line from http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

“If Trump came to power, there is a decent chance that the American experiment would be over. This is not a hyperbolic prediction; it is not a hysterical prediction; it is simply a candid reading of what history tells us happens in countries with leaders like Trump. Countries don’t really recover from being taken over by unstable authoritarian nationalists of any political bent, left or right—not by Peróns or Castros or Putins or Francos or Lenins or fill in the blanks. The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal. Ask Argentinians or Chileans or Venezuelans or Russians or Italians—or Germans. The national psyche never gets over learning that its institutions are that fragile and their ability to resist a dictator that weak.”

and that's why i want the press to just keep hitting and hitting and hitting right up and through the election. it's good for the national psyche. i don't think it undoes what he's done, especially since the "he's verifiably a racist" stuff has been seen by everyone to make depressingly little difference. but humiliating him in a two horse race then dismantling him psychologically and financially is a start.

Trump's basically just pouring gasoline on himself at this point, and Hillary doesn't just have a box of matches, she has a flamethrower

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or if it came from their camp

this was totally leaked to WaPo by some PA from the network or similar

the cameraman, the sound engineer, the dolly operator, etc. those guys keep this stuff.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/mike-pence-donald-trump-comments-women-229303

boom operator (doubt there was a dolly shot involved lol)

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didn't the NYT tax return story come out last friday afternoon? is there a plan to do this on fridays?

are you seriously worrying about Hillary's feewings being hurt by some dumb bullshit coming out of a desperate, flailing Trump's mouth

No. On one hand, I'm simply treating her like a normal person who might conceivably not want this guy who's pure unchecked id attributing equally gruesome quotes to her husband, regardless of political calculation, the truth of them, whether they can be substantiated or not, etc., and on the other, saying that he'll be getting from every direction anyway. I mean, there are political scandals all the time that have such a finality about them that you just get out of the way.

oh lmao trump and ryan have an event together tomorrow!!

Trump might wanna tell his campaign what other shit he remembers saying to people in the last decade that might hurt him.

Well the cliff's notes at least

should we just have a new thread every friday?

this one already hit 5000 posts

oh lmao trump and ryan have an event together tomorrow!!

yessss

beautiful http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-trump-campaigning-together-229238

seriously can we get a new thread going

haha this is awesome

seriously can we get a new thread going

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Eight different lines you could use from today's video clip for a title...

please don't, as mentioned

to NRO + commentary types credit they are all uniformly disgusted by this

elite = someone who believes bragging about groping a married* woman's vagina is a bad thing

* nb assault obv is assault + disgusting no matter what the marital status but i still think the violation of marriage is a significant enough transgression that it's worth including

The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

Trump's basically just pouring gasoline on himself at this point, and Hillary doesn't just have a box of matches, she has a flamethrower

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― Οὖτις

just want to point out that a box of matches would probably be easier to use in this situation than a flamethrower

that man are, without shame, claiming to talk like this in private makes a very strong case that rape culture is very real - i'm saying this as someone who had felt we culturally condemned rape significantly but obviously it was bc i was naive bc talking like this would be unfathomable among the ppl i know. i apologize for being dense about this.

that mea culpa belongs on a different thread, methinks

(tbh the last couple years have opened my eyes on this topic - esp wrt the justice system - but this is just next level to be bragging about this shit and think it's ok on any level it's horrifying it's like finding out you're living in a horror movie)

Trump/Kremlin/Assange strike back? https://www.rt.com/usa/361990-clinton-podesta-emails-wikileaks/

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