I HATE APPLE

*falls into a crumpled britisher heap*

As if on cue, shortly after I returned my 7, my 6's battery life became comically bad, like I fully charge it 2-3x per 24 hours now. Thinking about either a 6s or an SE

Lemme know who in nyc has a good deal on SEs, I think that's where I'm headed next

I think retail pricing is standardized? However Costco often has deals on iphones that get around this with rebates in costco cash card form or some kind of special extra accessory pack you get. The only tradeoff is that their wireless kiosks tend to not be the well-oiled machines that like official verizon stores are and it can be a slight pain to purchase through them.

Best Buy has $50 off the Verizon and Sprint 64gb SE ( $50 gift card if you're on AT&T) for the next couple of days if you do the two year installment plan.

I ended up buying a used 6 on Swappa.com for $319 and then immediately traded it in for full $649 credit on a 7 with Verizon. Not a bad deal. Don't like the new home button.

Hm what kind of trade in would I get for my 128gb 6+, I wonder.

i wonder too, got the same

Was that with a new verizon account? They only offer 200 for my 6 but I'm a returning customer.

The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time), I think because after they got rid of swipe to unlock I started using the touch ID feature and just maybe wore it out?

Anyway, now I gotta figure out the cheapest way to get a new phone from Sprint, and it is not as easy to figure out as it was when you used to get part of the phone subsidized with a two-year contract.

No, I've been with them for a while, but it was a limited time offer -- maybe the first week or two after the 7 went on sale. Looks like they're only offering $200 for a 6 and $300 for a 6S now. If you can hold off for a little bit there are usually some Black Friday deals.

The home button on my iPhone has stopped working (most of the time)

I found out recently that most Chinese avoid using the home button on their iPhones, possibly to avoid wearing it out.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/chinese-use-assistivetouch-on-iphone-2015-5?r=US&IR=T

Not sure if they've stopped doing it on the new ones with no physical home button.

No physical home button is a big draw for me now that I know it wears out. These things are pricey investments. Unfortunately assistive touch is really, really cumbersome: it adds several extra clicks to even the simplest tasks, and when you have carpal tunnel (I know, lame) those clicks add up.

how does it add clicks?

It's a floating button you have to click to open a menu, where you click some more. You also have to move it around the screen because sometimes it sits on top of other things you're trying to click on. It's an adequate fallback (I'd be fucked without it), but it's clumsy and much much slower and less intuitive than simply clicking the home button

oh got it

FAO Dayo and anyone else that was mad they removed swipe up from bottom right for camera.

Take a picture—fast

The tiny camera icon in the lower-right corner of the Lock screen—for quick access to the Camera app—is gone. In iOS 10, getting to the point of taking a photo is even faster. Click the Home button to wake the phone—and then swipe left anywhere on the screen. In under a second, you’re ready to take a photo.

"under a second" right bcz once you swipe right it doesn't take an addt'l 4-5 seconds to load the actual damn camera...

works fast on my 6+

it worked so fast it took the picture before I even swiped on a 7

thanks spottie - my problem with it is that it doesn't always register the full swipe - more of than not it will swipe 25% and then go back to home screen. i got near 100% on swipe down->up. maybe because there's more room to swipe up

I've experienced this too, annoying.

hah i was like wtf you talking about then it did it to me like 4 times in a row smh

that old functionality was perfect no idea why they would remove it and replace it with.... nothing

The only diff is that the whole screen is a swipe target, rather than just one little corner of it. And the direction you swipe. That's it. How is that worse?

yeah it seems easier to me, but I never got used to the old behaviour b/c of my big dumb fingers

I've given it a good go, but I hate the new notifications thing. I still can't work out when I should swipe them right, press them, hard press them or pull them down. This used to be so fucking simple

I just hard press them all and it gives me what I need.

Unfortunately, no force touch on my model. I'm left handed and used to swiping right (it used to not matter which direction), so it sucks for me... learning to swipe left now on all notifications to open the app.

Err, used to swiping left with my left thumb to open, now to swipe right. You get what I mean.

If you use assistive touch, can you avoid the home button altogether? Don't you have to press the home button to 'wake' the phone from standby?

You can press the power button on the top instead.

And with iOS 10 and a 6S or later you can set it to wake when you pick up the phone.

I am using a 5S still so it's no wonder it's taking forever to load the camera :( I'm planning on upgrading to the 7 but I'm locked into AT&T (bcz family plan), want an unlocked Verizon phone (bcz it supports more cellular bands), but don't want to pay for it all up front, and there is no way to do the payment plan w/ a diff carrier's phone

https://uxdesign.cc/a-critical-analysis-of-the-ios-10-lockscreen-experience-726ddfba3c1a#.dbafbwwwg

otm

the notifications are crap if you don't have 3d touch

cutting out the option to group notifications by app is dumb as hell

I really only want to stop them telling me to update to a new iOS several times a day and using 1mb of my iCloud (which I pay for) to "hold" an update that I do not want. Since I do pay for it I should have the choice.

i dropped my phone in the toilet on saturday

it's not turning on, this blows

guy at verizon store was supremely unhelpful, he just like stared at it with a mystified look on his face

verizon stores are never helpful with repairs, you need to find a freestanding repair guy or deal with the genius bar

do you think it is worth repairing or should i just find a used phone elsewhere? (obv i don't want to pay full retail price for a new phone)

i took my 2013 macbook pro to genius bar a few months ago bc it wouldn't turn on and the repair fee was actually a really good deal, it was $200 or something and they would fix/replace anything that was damaged and it turned out they essentially replaced almost all the parts so it totally beat having to buy a new laptop

I've been at a genius bar quite a lot recently and it seemed like 90% of the people were there for iPhone repairs, mostly broken screens, but they're doing great business so I can't imagine it's bank-breaking labor.

Worst news ever! fuck fuck fuck

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/11/16/apple-dissolves-mac-automation-management-post-sal-soghoian-to-leave-company

Apple dissolves Mac automation management post, Sal Soghoian to leave company
By Mikey Campbell

Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 04:48 pm PT (07:48 pm ET)

It was revealed on Wednesday that longtime Apple Product Manager of Automation Technologies Sal Soghoian, whose work is responsible for services like AppleScript and Automator, will be leaving the company in December as his post was recently eliminated.

seems like the sort of person they'd want to retain in a sinecure even if they didn't want to actually work on AppleScript anymore. :\

Maybe he was a bad employee in other ways. Like stealing people's yogurt from the fridge.

Automator always seemed like it would be great but I just never got it. It was neither pointy-clicky enough nor scriptable enough, but some netherworld in between.

It's not Automator that I'm worried about, it's all of AppleScript. I'm heavily dependent on it - especially in iTunes.

I haven't delved into the newer stuff enough, but the really obvious long-term plan would be
- Surface all of the app functionality currently available to AppleScript via a better API. As far as I know, all of that stuff currently requires the use of an Objective C NSAppleScript/NSAppleScriptTask object, even from Swift, which is garbage.
- Make all the scripting hooks accessible natively, including granted security (I don't think macOS has app-specific granting of permissions like iOS, but I might be wrong). Getting that security model in place is necessary and really is part of the huge iOS feature to macOS feature backport that is kind of happening in that iOS, while really limited in some ways, is a better modern OS
- Document the Siri functionality and make the common actions available to the automation API