I HATE APPLE

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how does it add clicks?

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

It's a floating button you have to click to open a menu, where you click some more. You also have to move it around the screen because sometimes it sits on top of other things you're trying to click on. It's an adequate fallback (I'd be fucked without it), but it's clumsy and much much slower and less intuitive than simply clicking the home button

Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

oh got it

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

FAO Dayo and anyone else that was mad they removed swipe up from bottom right for camera.

Take a picture—fast

The tiny camera icon in the lower-right corner of the Lock screen—for quick access to the Camera app—is gone. In iOS 10, getting to the point of taking a photo is even faster. Click the Home button to wake the phone—and then swipe left anywhere on the screen. In under a second, you’re ready to take a photo.

Spottie, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

"under a second" right bcz once you swipe right it doesn't take an addt'l 4-5 seconds to load the actual damn camera...

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

works fast on my 6+

Spottie, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

it worked so fast it took the picture before I even swiped on a 7

mh 😏, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

thanks spottie - my problem with it is that it doesn't always register the full swipe - more of than not it will swipe 25% and then go back to home screen. i got near 100% on swipe down->up. maybe because there's more room to swipe up

, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

I've experienced this too, annoying.

Jeff, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

hah i was like wtf you talking about then it did it to me like 4 times in a row smh

that old functionality was perfect no idea why they would remove it and replace it with.... nothing

Spottie, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

The only diff is that the whole screen is a swipe target, rather than just one little corner of it. And the direction you swipe. That's it. How is that worse?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 October 2016 08:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah it seems easier to me, but I never got used to the old behaviour b/c of my big dumb fingers

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 20 October 2016 09:51 (seven years ago) link

I've given it a good go, but I hate the new notifications thing. I still can't work out when I should swipe them right, press them, hard press them or pull them down. This used to be so fucking simple

stet, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link

I just hard press them all and it gives me what I need.

Jeff, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

Unfortunately, no force touch on my model. I'm left handed and used to swiping right (it used to not matter which direction), so it sucks for me... learning to swipe left now on all notifications to open the app.

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

Err, used to swiping left with my left thumb to open, now to swipe right. You get what I mean.

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link

If you use assistive touch, can you avoid the home button altogether? Don't you have to press the home button to 'wake' the phone from standby?

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Thursday, 20 October 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link

You can press the power button on the top instead.

Alba, Thursday, 20 October 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link

And with iOS 10 and a 6S or later you can set it to wake when you pick up the phone.

early rejecter, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

I am using a 5S still so it's no wonder it's taking forever to load the camera :( I'm planning on upgrading to the 7 but I'm locked into AT&T (bcz family plan), want an unlocked Verizon phone (bcz it supports more cellular bands), but don't want to pay for it all up front, and there is no way to do the payment plan w/ a diff carrier's phone

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

otm

stet, Friday, 21 October 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link

the notifications are crap if you don't have 3d touch

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 21 October 2016 11:38 (seven years ago) link

cutting out the option to group notifications by app is dumb as hell

Clay, Saturday, 22 October 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

I really only want to stop them telling me to update to a new iOS several times a day and using 1mb of my iCloud (which I pay for) to "hold" an update that I do not want. Since I do pay for it I should have the choice.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 22 October 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link

i dropped my phone in the toilet on saturday

marcos, Monday, 31 October 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

it's not turning on, this blows

marcos, Monday, 31 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

guy at verizon store was supremely unhelpful, he just like stared at it with a mystified look on his face

marcos, Monday, 31 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

verizon stores are never helpful with repairs, you need to find a freestanding repair guy or deal with the genius bar

do you think it is worth repairing or should i just find a used phone elsewhere? (obv i don't want to pay full retail price for a new phone)

marcos, Monday, 31 October 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

i took my 2013 macbook pro to genius bar a few months ago bc it wouldn't turn on and the repair fee was actually a really good deal, it was $200 or something and they would fix/replace anything that was damaged and it turned out they essentially replaced almost all the parts so it totally beat having to buy a new laptop

marcos, Monday, 31 October 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

I've been at a genius bar quite a lot recently and it seemed like 90% of the people were there for iPhone repairs, mostly broken screens, but they're doing great business so I can't imagine it's bank-breaking labor.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 31 October 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Worst news ever! fuck fuck fuck

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/11/16/apple-dissolves-mac-automation-management-post-sal-soghoian-to-leave-company

Apple dissolves Mac automation management post, Sal Soghoian to leave company
By Mikey Campbell

Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 04:48 pm PT (07:48 pm ET)

It was revealed on Wednesday that longtime Apple Product Manager of Automation Technologies Sal Soghoian, whose work is responsible for services like AppleScript and Automator, will be leaving the company in December as his post was recently eliminated.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 17 November 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

seems like the sort of person they'd want to retain in a sinecure even if they didn't want to actually work on AppleScript anymore. :\

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link

Maybe he was a bad employee in other ways. Like stealing people's yogurt from the fridge.

Jeff, Thursday, 17 November 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link

Automator always seemed like it would be great but I just never got it. It was neither pointy-clicky enough nor scriptable enough, but some netherworld in between.

joygoat, Thursday, 17 November 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

It's not Automator that I'm worried about, it's all of AppleScript. I'm heavily dependent on it - especially in iTunes.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 November 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

I haven't delved into the newer stuff enough, but the really obvious long-term plan would be
- Surface all of the app functionality currently available to AppleScript via a better API. As far as I know, all of that stuff currently requires the use of an Objective C NSAppleScript/NSAppleScriptTask object, even from Swift, which is garbage.
- Make all the scripting hooks accessible natively, including granted security (I don't think macOS has app-specific granting of permissions like iOS, but I might be wrong). Getting that security model in place is necessary and really is part of the huge iOS feature to macOS feature backport that is kind of happening in that iOS, while really limited in some ways, is a better modern OS
- Document the Siri functionality and make the common actions available to the automation API

mh 😏, Friday, 18 November 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

I've been playing with Workflow on iOS and it can do a lot of things I didn't think possible on iOS, but it's still incredibly limited compared with Automator/AppleScript. But the same model would be great for Automator-style actions. Not the in-app window positioning and the like, not really without an interface to dig down into deeper granular actions. The basic stuff would work really well if the above happened, though.

I thought sending a music file from inside the Music app was completely impossible but in about ten seconds I created a Workflow workflow (hmm naming needs work here) that sent the currently playing song to Dropbox

mh 😏, Friday, 18 November 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

A somewhat popular theory in the dev community is that Automator/AppleScript will be superseded by similar functionality in Swift Playgrounds. Makes sense really, but sawing that arm off is going to be rough.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 November 2016 04:12 (seven years ago) link

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/21/apple-ceases-airport-wireless/

booo

, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

the 802.11ac airport router I have is the worst apple wireless product I've had, out of like... five? I think it has something to do with a device connected via IPv6 and it somehow completely sucks at IPv6. You can disable it to manual or link-local mode, but doing so takes a config change and restart and for some reason it locks up every time I attempt a config change -- like I hit save, it restarts, and never comes back

I'm going to try resetting the whole thing, configuring it how I want it, then changing the name back so all the clients reconnect, but not being able to make any changes to the config right now is incredibly irritating. Somehow it still takes software updates without freezing on restart so it's on the newest firmware, sooo... hell if I know.

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

Interface shit / dongle multiplication is utterly cyclical. Endless diversification into proprietary ports for this and that eventually makes product designers go crazy enough that they decide it's time for one plug to rule them all. The new plug is cool for a couple of years until product designers decide they hate it and its stupid limitations, and it all begins again.

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:22 (seven years ago) link

with the exception of every machine taking unleaded gasoline having the same size spout iirc

mh 😏, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link

even that is kind of fucked because diesel should really be a different shape/size but apparently is not

mh 😏, Monday, 28 November 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link

that article really underlines how fucked it is that iphone is all in on lightning instead of usbc

sktsh, Monday, 28 November 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link

Diesel is a different size!

I know this because I once spent five minutes trying to stick the nozzle into my CRV, going what the fuck is the matter with this, before realizing that I had come *this* close to ruining my engine right there in the Kroger parking lot.

pplains, Monday, 28 November 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link

Yep, I've done that.

Jeff, Monday, 28 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

I stand corrected, and also possibly reminded that I have done this

mh 😏, Monday, 28 November 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link


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