Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

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the infinite "wokeness" outbidding in leftist discourse is sort of a primary feature of the left since the enlightenment, but the absence of any specific situational or pragmatic context in online world makes it seem especially silly and irrelevant. The whole "why should we care about this" part is implicitly answered by "because people will click on it." Which is to say it's a fancy form of bitchy gossip devoid of actual political relevance.

And to walk back my uncool conservatism I think there's a parallel development on the right with regard to how extreme and "pure" your anti-liberalism is which reaches its logical conclusion in paranoia and the half-baked talk of revolution.

ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think you have the two "pure" extremes reacting against one another and tugging the moderates away from each other, like the pure hatred of liberalism leads to the unforgiving shaming of anything not purely woke and liberal and vice versa.

nomar, Thursday, 27 October 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

I've tried to argue elsewhere that what we've been seeing is a steady denigration of "the political" understood as the accommodation of competing value systems and replaced it with a kind of moral absolutism on all sides.

ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

if occasional quiet eye-rolling at wokeaholics is an uncool conservative belief, i guess i have it. other than that i'm mostly ignoring my latent uncool conservative beliefs atm.

mystery local boy (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

Imo there's been a lot of compromise on both sides in closing the gap between normal liberals and those making calls for 'extreme woke purity', in the past few years. or I've just started ignoring the latter more lol

flopson, Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

xp that's a tough one. marxists notwithstanding, i think the whole "working hard is the mark of an exemplary human" is some conservative bullshit. tune in and drop out, imo

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

woking hard

Mordy, Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

way out of my depth, sorry for that post

brimstead, Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

that ain't wokin, that's the way you do it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

just add hoisin sauce

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 27 October 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

last post feels so long ago

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

don't blame me i voted for hoisin sauce

qualx, Sunday, 13 November 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

i cling desperately to my wok, don't take my wok away from me

brimstead, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

don't wok away, in silence

sarahell, Monday, 14 November 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link

I don't want anymore green places to be built over. I hope it isn't necessary to accommodate everyone with homes.

Metallic vehicles generally look like shit.

Community is important but a lot of socialists and communists who talk about it creep me out (creepy communism). That horrible "brothers and sisters" unearned friendliness that reeks of falseness. "Come and link arms and we shall sing and dance on tables like hobbits". People who act like they want to live inside bland communist propaganda art.
I don't much like the idea of knowing much about most of my neighbours and I think a lot of people need more distance sometimes.
Alone time seems to have become underrated.

Acronyms should be used very sparingly.

Pop star/celebrity images and memes on social media are vulgar.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

I hope it isn't necessary to accommodate everyone with homes.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:50

I mean I hope it isn't necessary for their homes to be built over green areas.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

It's not; are you lobbying your local municipality for drastic upzoning of single family housing in the next fifty years?

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

Haven't read all the above, but...

* tattoos almost invariably ugly and stupid-looking
* professional childcare is bad for children under kindergarten age

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

I'm not crazy about tats either

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

So no Melville body art lined up for you, then?

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

It is possible to overcorrect against repression and create new problems, including more repression.
Lefties are really bad at using shame, which doesn't stop them from using it all the time.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

Getting from age 0 to 5 without professional childcare generally requires gobs of privilege btw

this is true:

Lefties are really bad at using shame, which doesn't stop them from using it all the time.

Yeah the shame-ee needs to agree with the shamer about what is and what is not shameful. If "omg Nazis love Trump, how can any person still support him?" were a tactic that worked, it would have worked Nov. 8. If it didn't work Nov. 8, it's not going to suddenly start working on Nov. 23.

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Getting from age 0 to 5 without professional childcare generally requires gobs of privilege btw

professional childcare is quite sparse in a lot of the world

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

So are incomes above the global poverty line.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

i don't find any comfort in having uncool conservative beliefs anymore :(

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

same, uncool conservative beliefs are now officially out of style for me

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

the daycare thing is kind of complicated, right? James could be correct that "professional childcare is bad for children under kindergarten age", but free or cheap daycare could still be beneficial overall if it allows parents who would otherwise not be able to afford it to go back to work, etc. there was recently a debate about it here (Quebec), where we have 5$/day daycare through a combo of public and subsidized private daycares, but also a publicized study showing that it had averse effects on some measures of kids' "non-cognitive skills". bit counter-intuitive for me but I asked my mom (who runs a daycare) about it and she suggested some possible channels

flopson, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

I'm not convinced it's clearly better to be home all day with a parent through age 5, depends a lot on what they have available to them. It's not really realistic for a stay-home parent to plan enriching activities all day every day, and the social aspect seems good too. I think a lot depends on the quality of the care as well.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

Like being in preschool for 6 hours might be an improvement on 2 hrs of television and 4 hours of indoor play alone.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

ya, I suspect it's about quality. some of the daycares are just in someone's house with like 1 or 2 other kids

flopson, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

new UCB: the modern/american need to make everything plain & explicit is a plague that fosters poor reading comprehension, cripples discourse, and indicates a deeper malaise in how people conceive of themselves & the world

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

yea the childcare thing is very complicated. part of our decision to move to a cheaper city was based (among many factors) on the opportunity for my wife to stay at home w/ the boys and we are super grateful for that. for us it has been awesome. but she's worked incredibly hard to build a varied and active schedule for them that includes all different kinds of activities, including preschool at two different places for our older son, music classes, stuff at the library, also some various types of therapy for our older son who has special needs.

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

i used to have uncool conservative beliefs, but apparently they're now uncool radical leftist beliefs.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

being in preschool for 6 hours might be an improvement on 2 hrs of television and 4 hours of indoor play alone

My 2 year old is in a small daycare with 4-5 other kids run by a woman out of her house and absolutely loves it. He gets bored with just my wife and I over long weekends or school breaks and starts asking for the other kids and the woman by name, tries to put his shoes and jacket on to leave, etc. I don't think the two of us could really provide the level of social interaction that he obviously loves and thrives on.

When I was a kid my mom didn't work, my aunt across the street didn't work, nor did a majority of the other women in our neighborhood who had kids and they could all get together and let the kids play at a park or someone's house. Now out of all the people I know with kids there are only 2 full-time stay-at-home parents.

joygoat, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

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still writes itself

imago, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

My mom was a stay-at-home mom but she still put me in daycare and I've never thought about that before now and now I feel kinda weird about it...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

if parents have the financial resources, they should avoid their children as much as possible in order to build the childrens' independence and self-reliance

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

I love my 3 year old daughter and all, but daycare is a fucking godsend. If I had to watch her 24/7, I'd probably lose it. I also like that she goes to a center with lots of other kids. She learns all kinds of crazy shit from them that she then brings home.

Jeff, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Really surprised to hear how many of you enjoy religious ceremonies, must have had more banging hymns than I did. I assumed that even most true believers can't wait until they're over.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

my sect has some pretty sick niggunim it's true

Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY-byj30cXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sml7M66pOk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF8RZd3yu-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwOedcw58gk

^ this is along the lines of what I grew up with at church; holy ghost feels a lot more real when accompanied by these voices

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 12 December 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

that's racist Mordy

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 12 December 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

If someone is going to do a war, there's no real reason not to do it with drones.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 13 January 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

European right wingers are probably right that they're facing a demographic social catastrophe. Otoh fuck Europe. This one maybe a wash.

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

xp perpetual war

Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 13 January 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

That seems like a weird one for you to say since it's so consonant with neonazi/white supremacist ideology. I'm sure you mean it in a different way. I'm a little sensitive for all the Eurocentric save-the-west fascists popping up on every other twitter thread I open.

bamcquern, Friday, 13 January 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link

They could be correct on the facts (above replacement immigration population plus below replacement native European population = predictable results) and still who gives a fuck let someone else be in charge over there.

Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link

I'm glad wet foot/dry foot is gone.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link


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