Filmstruck / Criterion Channel

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

They managed to go with all the devices that I don't own. Not sure it's worth picking up a new AppleTV just for this.

seems lame that it's not on xbone/ps4; that's what a very significant chunk of the population use to stream stuff, no?

Oh wait, I do have an Amazon Fire TV in my office, guess I can watch Kurosawa while filling out payroll forms and stuff.

filling empty space with the greatest cinema ever made is kinda why i'm willing to give up a c-note for even the dream of that actually happening.

They managed to go with all the devices that I don't own. Not sure it's worth picking up a new AppleTV just for this.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, November 2, 2016 1:41 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Chromecast is $35

for me, it's about having a tv with limited HD inputs... one for the ps4, one for the tivo and switching stuff out means a painful boot up period and extra hassle so i find i just don't do it

It's not available for the Chromecast, according to them That means I can screen mirror if I got one but have to leave my laptop up and running the entire time.

Screen mirroring quality is pretty meh, IME, but it's been a while since I used a Chromecast.

It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

It will be available for XBox One and Roku in six months, pretty sure I could find plenty to watch on Netflix and Amazon Video until then. We're talking about now, though.

It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:11 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also as a public service announcement the criterion print of andrei rublev is shitty and you can watch a much better transfer on youtube right now

They said PS4 "first half" of the coming year, so most likely I'd wait a while. No Chromecast/Roku support at launch seems pretty weak, though.

Roku support was slated for January 2017 acc to some infographic I saw on their website but now cannot find (because their website seems to be three completely different websites cobbled together and filled with contradicting info).

I just want to stream All That Jazz why is this so damn hard

The latest from their Facebook flack to commenters is "early 2017" for Roku.

I didn't do an exact count, but it looks like roughly 900 films on the Criterion side. Since there are a lot that haven't migrated over from Hulu (yet), that means there are a lot of additions. Browsing around just a little bit I saw Blood Simple, the other 2 films in Wim Wenders' Road Trilogy to go with Alice in the Cities, some Harold Lloyd that hadn't been on Hulu, some New Wave.

*British New Wave

When is this up for AppleTV?

December, allegedly. (4th-gen only, nothing earlier)

Signed up last night; Hulu account expires tomorrow. Started with No Home Movie and Ornette: Made in America.

cool, any glitches? I'll sign up soon but may wait a little bit if they're still working stuff out.

I pushed the film last night to my 3rd-gen Apple TV using AirPlay and my iMac completely froze about 20 minutes into the movie; had to do a hard shutdown and restart. Everything has worked fine today, watching directly on the Mac. I'll try AirPlaying again tonight.

D.A. Pennebaker's first film, Daybreak Express, is just the sort of wonderful tidbit that makes this site worth the money to me. I never would have seen it if they hadn't paired it with the feature it ran with in 1958 (Neame's The Horse's Mouth). Filmstruck isn't perfect (all the hosted intros I've seen so far are horrible), but it's got a lot going for it.

Hosted intros? Don't like the sound of that.

Anyone know if FilmStruck is 1080p, as opposed to Hulu's 720p?

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

If they're concerned about picture quality they shouldn't be streaming

^^^^^

AppleTV app is live

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

They are basically the Steve Hoffman folk of the film world. BluRay era has been a golden age for system setup/region coding online dick-size contests.

A FB friend (who may be an ILXor, though I can't remember his screen name) who knows how to wrangle databases heard my plea last night and extracted the data from Filmstruck's "Browse All" source code that allowed me to make this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit?usp=sharing

A spreadsheet with Filmstruck's current offerings, sortable by title, director, year, runtime, country. Note 2 sheets, Basic Filmstruck and Criterion Channel. It may be less useful than the one I made of Criterion on Hulu, because films are being added and dropped much more frequently.

Thanks for that!

some surprising omissions: very little Minelli, only one Lubitsch, no Tod Browning, no Sturges, no Sirk, only a handful of Fellini, only one Cukor... plenty of oddball curation clearly swung by copyright ownership instead of best options too: four Robert Downey Sr. films but no Putney Swope?

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You're welcome! I'm going to try to keep up with arrivals and departures to keep the spreadsheet up to date, but they are being VERY stupid about announcing that sort of stuff (I found out Mulholland Dr. is leaving the site at the end of January, but not from Filmstruck itself) so if anyone wants to mention comings and goings on this thread, that'd be great.

Nice list! Wow, that's a strong sales pitch...ugh. I'm really disappointed because the little Roku TV I bought this year for the living room has no option to turn off its (subtle, not always dstractingly present) soap-opera effect and by the time I was sure it wasn't my imagination, it was too late to return the thing. So now I'm sort of hesitant to plunk down for Filmstruck when it goes Roku since it'll be sabotaging the entire ''get myself educated in great film'' thing.

You might want to double check your TV settings re: soap opera effect. A friend had this issue, I had to go in and change her TV's settings on every input.

Oh believe me I've looked, through every menu and submenu. AFAICT it does not have any kind of off switch. It's definitely more pronounced on certain content but I suspect this may reflect arcane details of what framerate/medium the content provided to Netflix was inteded for. Robotech (the DVD version from the early 2000s) looked fine the entire way through. From Dusk Till Dawn made the actors look like plastic cutouts sliding wildly around the screen somehow moving a little faster than they should, especally any time the camera moved.

I keep praying for a firmware upgrade that fixes this but I doubt many folks are clamoring for it. Just pissed that the online reviews suggesting this was really the best option for this size TV never thought this was worth mentioning. Maybe earlier models didn't do this, or something.

It's classic that a thing happens and ILX's first reaction is to make a spreadsheet

::shrug::
for me, it's an easier way to browse

The in-app browsing system is not good! A spreadsheet is very helpful for this thing!

So the non-Criterion content is pretty meh, right? I was actually more interested in TCM-style films than Criterions.

Downhill Racer is only available this month, I see.

There was never going to be a lot of content that people would think of as "TCM-like" on this, and it seemed like they let a lot of people think otherwise.

makes you wonder what TCM even has to do with it? Why not just Criterion: the App?

Yeah, they've been unnecessarily vague about everything but the price.

A friend recommended the Warner Movie Archive for classic American stuff but the library looks pretty shallow even for a one-studio service and reviews were bad.

FS has legit shit quality streaming and they told me they wont have chromecast support until sometime next year

Shit quality like they're actually streaming in SD? Lots of compression artifacts? Stuff like that?

Lots added in the last few days.

Filmstruck:
Cairo Station
The Return of the Prodigal Son
The Sixth Day
The Sparrow
Saladin
Alexandria, Again and Forever
An Egyptian Story
The Land
Cairo As Told By Youssef Chahine

The Tall Blond Man With One Black Shoe
La Moutarde Me Monte au Nez
Paris 36

Criterion:
Koko: A Talking Gorilla
My Crasy Life
An Innocent Witch
A Story from Chikamatsu
Eternal Return, The
Endless Desire
Heat Wave; Oil-Hell Murder (both Hideo Gosha)
Poil de Carotte (Duvivier)
Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne, The
Ask Father (Harold Lloyd short)
Boudu Saved from Drowning
Oliver Twist (Lean)
Courage for Every Day
Uncle Yanco (Varda)
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
American Soldier, The
Junkopia (Chris Marker)

Help Center is Helpful -- https://help.filmstruck.com/hc/en-us/

Movies leaving the service in the next 6 months: https://help.filmstruck.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000301047-Movies-Leaving-FIlmStruck

Available audio commentaries: https://help.filmstruck.com/hc/en-us/articles/232060448-List-of-Audio-Commentaries-in-FilmStruck

https://www.criterionchannel.com/videos/criterion24-7

Their new thing, a 24/7 stream. Seems to be taken mostly from the core of the core of the permanent collection. I've seen bits of Daisies, Black Narcissus, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (on now), Seven Samurai in the last 2 days. But also Cane Toads: An Unnatural History.