By Hera! Come anticipate the WONDER WOMAN movie with me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

My general attitude is fuck a comic book movie, but WW is different and just the whole feel of this movie seems remarkable. Can I buy a ticket yet?

the DC movies are all fucking awful (well, the ones I've seen) but I'll probably make an exception for this because 1) I think Gal Godot is beautiful 2) this had a female director, right? which is an anomoly in comic book movies and 3) it can't be as bad as suicide squad

Patty Jenkins, who directed Monster, directed this.

Gal Gadot is def stunning and seems a natural to play WW but wow she cannot deliver lines like a human

oh yeah she by no means is a good actress

has a slightly similar feel to the first Captain America movie, re the retroness, which I'm def into

Gal looks and seems RAD I can't wait to see this

Chris Pine too haaaaay

Gal Gadot is def stunning and seems a natural to play WW

Really? Because my main thought when watchin Bats vs. Supes was that she's way too skinny and short to feel credible as WW. Wonder Woman's supposed to be tall and muscular, since she's literally an Amazon. And I'm not saying this just because that's the way she's been depicted in post-Crisis comics, but because physical strength and stature is a pretty important part of her character in general.

If she was playing a ninja or some other type of character who's main characteristic is agility, I wouldn't mind (which is why I'm okay with Johansson as the Black Widow), but with WW it's a different thing. You wouldn't cast a skinny dude to play Superman either.

agreed. plus ya know it's a better contrast with the whole essential bondage theme which I'm guessing will not be addressed in this film....

HG Peter's Wonder Woman has a fairly regular build, sometimes even a slightly petite. Not the most popular version but surely definitive.
But I really don't think it matters what size she is.

I thought Gadot was tall but maybe she's just taller than Isla Fisher.

she's 5 10". (i looked that up, I didn't know it off the top of my head) which is fairly tall, I'd think

The overwhelmingly definitive comparison:

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Lynda-as-Wonder-Woman-264419.jpg

(5 9")

You wouldn't cast a skinny dude to play Superman either.

― Tuomas, Friday, November 4, 2016 2:27 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Au contraire...

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/superman/images/6/6e/Cage_Lives.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150815204540

Gal Gadot appears to be 1.78m or 5ft 8. Might have expected them to go with somebody at least 6ft. but I guess that's reasonably tall for lot of people.

Not having seen the previous trailers i was a little surprised to see this was going to be set in teh first world war, thought she was more associated with WWII. Though it did look like a WWI scene she was shown in the photo in Batman v Superman.

(And, completely tangentially, I've totally bought into the argument that there's no real reason why Superman should be depicted as supermuscular. I guess the same could apply to Wonder Woman.)

I'm not arguing against a Darwyn Cooke version of course, but I don't know that it's a massive betrayal not to have one.

What was that thing Gal Gadot and Lynda Carter were doing? I heard that Wonder Woman was supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador? A lot of people were unhappy but it seems like people were more unhappy about it being a typically idealised white woman than it looking like a movie promotion.

a super muscular WW would probably scare the investors.

this does look cool. WWI as a setting has potential to be more interesting or nuanced than WWII. first season of the 70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

I have never heard of Gal Gadot and she seems perfectly fine (and tall !) but I don't know, she seems a bit too... "normal" or bland for the role.
I would have imagined someone more badass, with more character.
Maybe I'm biased because Lynda Carter was one of my first crushes as a kid... that said I don't remember at all if she was that badass !

70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

by fighting... 2nd Reich Germany !

i'm kind of surprise Lynda is that short! on her show she kind of towers over everyone. maybe they only hired short people?

or people were smaller then ?
I'm not sure there were that many 5 9" women around in the 70s.

(And, completely tangentially, I've totally bought into the argument that there's no real reason why Superman should be depicted as supermuscular. I guess the same could apply to Wonder Woman.)

I actually agree with that on Superman, since his power comes from the sun, and he's always been depicted as peaceful dude, so there's no need for him to lift weights or anything. But WW was born into a warrior culture and has gone through the toughest possible warrior training, so she should be muscly.

The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

Lynda Carter has a recurring role on the Supergirl tv series now and she's a fucking worse actress than Gal Godot if you can believe it.

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

One of my fave clips of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu89K7nI8KY

Debra's Letterman interviews are gold.

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

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The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

You could actually post the panels by Quitely here and prove your point?

supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador?

what

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

tbf Veg you're the one trying to be thrilled about a film produced by Zack Snyder and Geoff Johns

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/21/wonder-woman-un-ambassador-staff-protest

This is the thing I was talking about

as long as snyder's not *directing* i'm all for it

remember when this guy was the Iranian ambassador to the UN though

http://66.media.tumblr.com/c2da3a5940bf16eb2082b80bc4206540/tumblr_nrgl4okBxP1trvouao1_500.jpg

That chin is nuts

you could fit a lot of nuts on that chin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLzqh7rZ-U

looks good

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/wptest/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/chainedwonderwoman.jpg

its a teal and orange world

that's a full trailer and not a teaser? i don't know what type of film it is. action, back story, tragic scene, cg, explosion, one-liner, comedy.

i can imagine an exec going "what DCEU really needs is marvel's color scheme from 2011"

is Wonder Woman going to find out why the sun turned blue?

looks a hell of a lot better than snyder's super fuck-fest. which isn't really an endorsement, but baby steps...

yeah I like everything I've seen about this. I hate the Snyder movies and refuse to watch batman vs superman or have anything to do with suicide squad, but this looks to hit all the right buttons. Gal Godot is probably the one weak spot; she is absolutely drop dead gorgeous and amazing, but will she be able to convincingly act the part? I don't know. Maybe acting chops don't matter that much in this type of movie. I wouldn't say that dude who plays Captain America is any kind of good actor either and he's good enough for those films.

Other lessons they've learned from Marvel: blonde guys named Chris to the front!

still really squicked out that they've chosen to put wonder woman in the trenches of ww1

For reasons of taste? You don't usually see superheroes in a WWI context (mostly because they hadn't been invented yet) but there are few conflicts since that they haven't gotten involved in, both contemporaneously and after the fact

yeah, mainly - inserting a comic book character directly into the frontlines of one of the most appalling conflicts in history just seems really, really tasteless.

the reason the captain america movie didn't feature him liberating concentration camps or kicking dr mengele in the nuts was (i assume) at least partially out of concern for the optics of playing dress-up against the backdrop of real-life atrocity. and the nazis he did fight were literal comic-book villains. although superheroes have been involved in real-life conflicts in comics they're usually fighting super-powered villains, and on the one occasion i can think of offhand where that wasn't the case (dr manhattan in vietnam in watchmen) it was far from a positive depiction.

maybe there's additional context the trailers haven't shown or something but nuance and subtlety are not the hallmarks of previous dcu movies so i'm expecting something not too far removed in tone from the infamous post-9/11 spider-man story with doctor doom weeping with grief at the site of ground zero

greek accents -- a good sign!

Because then the movie would have been about Wonder Woman punching out the Manhattan Project.

with oppenheimer as the big bad, literally 'become death, destroyer of worlds'?

i'd watch the shit out of that tbh

Oh I think ILX would totally watch that movie. Hence the budget should have been in the $2500 range.

"A Mark Duplass Film"

ilx post-covers the wonder woman movie

i spent a few days camping with a group of friends & two unrelated 5 yr old girls had WW bathrobe & pyjamas, two moms had WW tshirts, and at one point the 8 yr old boy was playing "magic lasso" with some old rope he found by the river.. it was super cool seeing all the unplanned ww love :)

despite my historical issues, a lot of it was excellent, and she was hella charismatic and a lot of things were done super well. therein lies the frustration - and it's pretty lame that her next appearance is alongside total downer-bros Cavill and Affleck in the next one.

http://www.tcj.com/professor-marston-and-the-wonder-women/

Just a piece about some of the puzzling choices in the biopic.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonwells/medium-post-gal-gadot?utm_term=.xhYANAr7KD#.vmGA1APmKq

13 years ago, Gal Gadot would have been 19 years old or so. I don't think anybody is a perfect moral specimen at that age. I don't appreciate Medium's handling of it, but then again, fucking Medium, you get what you pay for in a platform.

I read the original post before Medium took it down. If the account is true, not being a "perfect moral specimen" doesn't cover it.

Just read the webcached version. Fuck me, what a vile human being*.

*Assuming it's true as written

well okay then I guess she sucks

everyone sucks

dang

Can the fuller story be seen elsewhere?

Posts shit bigging up the IDF as well.

not sure why that's a surprise to anyone

Saw this two weeks ago -- a bit if all right as far as superhero things go. At least the action was intelligible.

Can the fuller story be seen elsewhere?

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fVArhMNLAXcJ:https://medium.com/%40imasurvivor/heres-how-gal-gadot-actually-responded-when-her-friend-raped-me-7aa7a2bea919+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

Warning: really pretty unpleasant reading. Starts off with her blaming a 15 year old victim for being raped, goes downhill from there.

This is good this is.

*spit take*

He's not wrong.

i liked it too, it just seemed uh dmac-proof to me

ITT Deems and Tombot agree on a movie

The last act drags but the first is a doozy and the second balances comic booky and plot furtherance well.

And uh gadot

The cognitive dissonance between her relentless naivete and her book learnin' was very weird and funny to me, generally not in a good way

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 13:41 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are u ppl kidding me or yourselves more in this place that's what I ask myself

Well, this is interesting news.

So excited to confirm the most thrilling news. Yes! It’s true! So incredibly lucky to welcome the sensationally talented Kristen Wiig to our Wonder Woman family. Can't wait to finally work with one of my favorites. And SO excited by what we have planned. #Cheetah!!! @GalGadot pic.twitter.com/Gn0jICiIAH

— Patty Jenkins (@PattyJenks) March 9, 2018

Wiig plays a hard-boiled undercover detective determined to find out who killed her father, Sir Patrick Morgan

huh, so i guess she's playing cheetah? guess we'll have to wait another few years before that wonder woman / egg fu bigscreen face-off that fans have been clamouring for

and this should be Cheetah in the 1980s, right? should be interesting

Great trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQ5mWYwTtQ

not a fan of orchestral blue monday tbh

kinda dreading the explanation of how chris pine is alive but also happy to see him cuz chris pine is good fuiud

It's actually nice seeing DC get its shit together

I never knew I wanted to see Wonder Woman wreck Pentagon City mall until now, but I do!!

the first one was a bit over-long (why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?) but Gadot and the overall tone was great, will totally see this w my daughter

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on, wish they'd just used the original Blue Monday though.

why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?

in their own way and in a different medium, they are replicating all those romantic symphonies that strive for a 'big finish' so long and overwrought as to leave their audience wrung out with induced emotion. when I hear those symphonies now I experience those climax-piled-on-climax endings as a musical joke instead of a passionate catharsis.

(I'm looking at you, Gustav Mahler!)

this might be the first one of these big budget superhero movies that is "not a hoax! not a dream! not an imaginary story!"
could unlock a subgenre of elseworlds? marvel is already doing a "what if" tv series right?

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on...

I was actually hoping for big, unapologetically cheesy ‘80s indulgence... not “New Order ‘80s” (let alone “New Order Remix ‘80s”). Trailer disappointing!

I want some Fat Boys

Even her hair and makeup look more 1994 than 1984.