White musicians and "artistic" use of the N-word: A Discussion and Social History

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Is anyone here defending "Black Korea"?

Showing off your working knowledge of actual racist music is just wink-wink bullshit and the thread doesn't need it.

Winky G. Winkgarten

thought for sure that this revive was going to be about Honey G

punkishippies is always on about this shit

We should probably get into how Douglas Pearce is misunderstood while we are at it

Can't be bothered to read thread. What did we decide about The Classical in the end?

I guess I'll give punkishippies that the distinction between 'artistic' use of a racial slur and 'actually racist' use is vague and worth questioning. I agree that GnR were being actually racist in "One in a Million".

xp i always thought the use of the word, in "the classical," modified as it is with the word "obligatory," wass supposed to point out how societies have this tendency to marginalize certain groups -- sort of a foucauldian thing. the target is not the out group, but society, for creating out groups.

however, i am reading now that he is targeting the bbc's tendency toward tokenism, putting a few black people in the crowds of televised performances. this is a less defensible use of the word in my view. the target is still the "bbc" but the black people in the crowd are also being singled out in a very disrespectful kind of way.

inconclusive.

30 albums and he never did it other than 20 seconds into his would-be breakout record. total provocateur move, still makes me a bit uncomfortable though

I mean, it's meant to, yeah yeah

definitely mars a song with otherwise amazing lyrics

ts: 1981 vs. 2016

recent events reminded me of this classic exchange upthread:

Slayer: two Latinos and a Jew (Kerry King). Granted, the other guy is about as Aryan as you can get and is obsessed with Nazi imagery, but what are you gonna do.

― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 AM

not be obsessed with nazi imagery

― max, Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:39 AM

lol