Wow. Whoa. That is some group of people. Thousands. - US Election Day 2016

Despite my continued reservations about Clinton, I have to admit that it felt good to realize last night that I had the opportunity to vote for the first black president and the first female president.

My 8-year-old son was chanting "Hillary! Hillary!" in the back seat on the way to school this morning. It's something to think that the only presidents he will know from the ages of birth to 16 may be Obama and Hillary.

Voted by mail weeks ago. I don't understand why everyone doesn't do it. Unless you just like the tradition of voting on Election Day.

dowd: yes - what year was it? 2004?

serious question, when does Trump get his Twitter account back?

Security guy at my polling place, a public elementary school in south Williamsburg Brooklyn: "I ain't seen this many people since they were giving away cheese!"

yeah so far turnout looks to be absolutely massive so....GG Republicans??

good luck usa

"I ain't seen this many people since they were giving away cheese!"

haha

I've never seen my polling place so busy before! Lines weren't out the door or anything but the school gym was full of ppl lined up to sign the book and get their ballots. Luckily my name + district fell into a less busy line so I was done fast but ppl were waiting 30-45 mins afaict. I shudder to think what it will look like at 7-8pm.

good luck usa

Good luck, Planet Earth.

pronounced 'oosa'

i want to post an encouraging solidarity gif of gremlins trashing clamp tower but it's after midnight

glpe

godspeed Lou, pink emperor.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bbF1IwgFLEA/maxresdefault.jpg

In Sydney Hillary's already the new president!

Lmao

Back around 9/11-mania, there was some privileged San Fran fancy pants writer pushing back against all the abject and ugly hyper-patriotism - I think this was in Salon or Slate? Anyway, she complained that people had gone so far as to spray paint "USA" on the sidewalk. The gall, right? Except the "USA" stood for "underground service alert," and it was there to warn people excavating of buried electric/gas lines and other important cables.

lol

no line at my district voting site, high school students outside taking exit polls for class. fare thee well, ILX. it's been real :)

Got to chime in quickly now that its all coming to an end, I've been reading the last 5 or 6 election threads since stumbling across this site and its really been a pleasure. Nice work you guys.

Xp to the pinefox

I have no idea when it was. I tend to think Louis was fairly late? But I used to post under my own name, back before the noise board and so on.

My only regret is that we didn't have more ethnic breakdowns of the electorate and what it means for American politics spill one out for the neb.

xxpost Fer sure. The more knowledgeable and informed posters in these threads deserve a Pulitzer for cutting through the fat and consistently outclassing a lot of the pallid mainstream media election coverage this year.

It's a shame Louis isn't here any more to deliver that cheering 'good luck usa' as the first response to the last election thread

ten years ago we had bob hope steve jobs and l0u1s jagg3r

^^^hammerban xp

Got to chime in quickly now that its all coming to an end, I've been reading the last 5 or 6 election threads since stumbling across this site and its really been a pleasure. Nice work you guys.

http://i.imgur.com/axu30NB.jpg

no line this morning at my precinct in lakewood, oh, a democratic suburb of cleveland. it was busy but pretty fast-moving. there was a grumpy old white dude who was passed between various sign-in tables though and he was very annoyed by that. on his way out he said "finally we can get rid of everything that's ruining this country"

guy who rents a room in the house next door to us outside wearing an uncle sam hat and holding a vote for trump sign trying to get cars to honk. maria yelled at him. she couldn't help herself. he said he likes all people and doesn't like trump he just doesn't want hillary to melt his face. also he didn't understand why maria had a problem since he was white and she was white.

also last night at the grocery store i overheard a guy behind the seafood counter tell another guy he better not vote for swillary or he'd shoot him in the head.

massachusetts gone wild.

also i was asked for ID twice? once just to get into the room and another time to find my name on the list. i wasn't aware of OH voter id laws. it was a little weird.

planning to spend 5 to midnight tonight in the pottery studio, call me when its over plz /pvmic

always been asked for ID in Shaker, voted absentee this year

xpost

good morning, where's the Aperol?

I voted last week, by mail - one of my big takeaways from this year is that a lot more states need to adopt the Oregon system, hopefully we'll see movement towards that.

Dowd I think it must have been 2004 or conceivably 2008. I have only met the L. Jagger person a handful of times and it was after he had first attained some kind of strange reputation on ilx, which I never understood. In person he was quite friendly! Anyway I think of him posting in about 2006.

I agree with or expand on the view expressed above that the ilx US election threads have been

a) remarkably well informed and a great source of links to substantial information, and yes, often more insightful than general media coverage

b) as I have said before, often remarkably witty.

Line around two blocks in my Manhattan polling place. All in all a 45 minute process, but I'd wait on line for days in the snow to vote against that Dyspeptic Carrot

The precinct I'm observing in Collinwood has been running smoothly. No waiting or lines but a steady stream of voters, nearly 100% African-American. The outside poll observers said there was some yahoo walking around the building yelling REMEMBER BENGHAZI WHEN YOU VOTE.

Also, I highly recommend the Samantha Bee segment endorsing Hillary--made me feel even better about my vote

https://youtu.be/b6zf5VkuiEQ

The GOP area supervisor showed up about half an hour ago and was surprised he had no observers here. I made sure to let him know I had been here since 5:30am for the Democrats.

The precinct I'm observing in Collinwood has been running smoothly. No waiting or lines but a steady stream of voters, nearly 100% African-American. The outside poll observers said there was some yahoo walking around the building yelling REMEMBER BENGHAZI WHEN YOU VOTE.

― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, November 8, 2016 10:13 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i drove by a few polling places in glenville on my way to work, they seemed busy but nothing crazy too.

Took me 5 minutes this morning. Mostly everyone in Hoboken is saving it for after work, I guess.

omg @ Don Shelby

Ha. Paul F Tompkins surveys the crowd of onscreen supporters at a Trump rally:

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFTompkins/status/795870883055177728

Voting has always been a five minute matter at my polling place -- took 30 minutes today.

voted in a lil town in vermont, spent more time on the ballot than i did waiting in line

I think it's only fair to request that every news outlet constantly trumpeting the nail-bitingly razor thin margin between Clinton and Trump permanently shutter their operations after Clinton's decisive victory. So fucking sick of that narrative.

I'm going to repost what I wrote on Facebook about how I'm viewing today:

I voted a week ago. It was remarkably easy, especially since my family was out of town at the time and it was Halloween; I left work, drove to City Hall, stood in two short lines, filled in some ovals and PRESTO! Done and done.

The last time I really struggled with who I wanted to vote for in a Presidential election was in 1992. I was extremely dissatisfied with President Bush's handling of the Gulf War. (I was 100% against going in but I felt that if we were to engage, we needed to engage 100%; I felt like the actual engagement plan we pursued was wishy-washy and almost guaranteed to destabilize the region further. I was also 18 and a certified military genius, as evidenced by my Tetris high score.) I was certain we needed a change and I thought that change was best represented by Paul Tsongas. When he lost the primary, I became very, very disillusioned. I knew Bush wasn't my guy and Clinton's speeches did not convince me he was my guy, either. Therefore, I did what any rational new voter would do; I went to the polls, thought long and hard about the type of person I though had the ideas and policy positions that would make sense for the direction I thought our country should go, and then wrote in my father for President.

Sadly, he didn't win. My timeline for building up grass roots support for my father's presidential bid was severely off, as I didn't start talking him up as the sane and rational choice to my friends until about a week after the election. I didn't even tell him that I considered him to be Presidential material until after the results were tallied. Maybe it was a foolish and vain thing to do; I don't know. I do know though that somewhere, in the depths of the vote tallies for the 1992 Presidential election, assuming the tallies are granular enough, there is a line item that says "D___ Perry - 1" and that the country missed out on electing the first black president by 16 years, even if he didn't know at the time that he was in the running.

This year, my choice was decided before the primaries ended. I read the platforms of the Sanders campaign and the Clinton campaign and liked both of them. I was happy with the execution of either vision, to the point where I literally could have flipped a coin to decide my primary vote. I knew one of them would be representing the Democrats when it came to Election Day and I knew I would be voting for him or her. That was pretty much it for me; I didn't take any of the Republicans seriously because all of them, from my perspective at least, had a fatal flaw that would not allow me to even consider voting for them. That Donald Trump emerged the victor once everything was said and done is not only an indictment of the current state of the Republican party; it is an indictment of the dog-whistles and racist underpinnings that are the true foundation of Republican thought once you scrape off the veneer of egalitarian self-determinism. It is all very well to proclaim yourself the party of individualism and excellence but when you do so by promoting policies that explicitly target the rights of women, minorities, queer and poor people, your proclamations ring hollow. Despite my liberal bent, I do not think that all conservative ideas are by definition wrong; I know I don't have all the answers and I am well aware of how unintended consequences work. However, if I do not believe you are willing to grant me a seat at the table and listen to my perspective, I can do nothing with your ideology. This is the corner the Republican party has eagerly painted itself into dating back to Nixon; Donald Trump is your triumphant culmination. I hope you are happy with yourselves.

Everyone who is eligible should vote. Everyone should vote not only with their self-interest in mind, but interest in the standing of your community, your state, your nation and your world. I've made my position clear; if you haven't done so already, now it's your turn. Vote.

tick

So what happened to that Twitter guy people kept quoting here about new Trump oppo about to be released? Rick Wilson?

new Trump oppo is HILLARY WINNING

Ah c'mon Adam, I with you on some aspects of this - there are absolutely untapped voters out there not served or inspired by what the Dems have been selling. But do we think Clinton would have won big by adopting Stein's platform? Or even that Stein's voters would have not still voted for Stein?

* I'm

a million little things all swung the election because the election's margin was so slim. enthusiasm, comey, wikileaks etc.

it's unfair to pin full responsibility on them, but it's not unfair to call these people idiots. presumably they are distraught about the results of this election yet they weren't willing to do the smallest thing - fill in a different bubble on a sheet - to help prevent those results.

who knows though, some of them (e.g. morbs) might be basically happy about the results. I imagine some people voting 3rd party in a swing state after what happened in 2000 might just be genuinely crazy / out of reach.

^grim liar

What ifs need to be understood in full context; you can't just change one variable and assume all others remain constant.

If Clinton's messaging had gone full-bore after Stein voters, or Sanders diehards, or unionized auto-workers, or gypsum distributors, or left-handed fishermen, or transgender circus performers, or dental hygienists (or whatever), then you're assuming that those rhetorical moves would not have lost her any nervous suburban soccer moms (or whatever).

Adam if I say that you are 100% right that liberal moderate Dems made a terrible mistake ignoring the wishes of the left and they are responsible for these circumstances and that you knew this all along and warned us and we should've listened -- will you stop making the same argument over and over again? Like is it possible you are just saying it because you feel no one has heard you yet? I hear you. I understand your position. You have been heard. Let's move onto something new.

― Mordy, Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe everyone else howling about stein could move onto something new too? or is this only a one way standard

will everyone who thinks that I, a cancer patient who may become unemployed by spring, am happy about Trump's election please chime in?

good. i thought not. move on.

I didn't vote for Jill Stein because she's a total fucking idiot.

it's not unfair to call these people idiots

call them whatever you want. but calling them idiots and then expecting them to vote for your candidate is a pretty idiot move.

thing that bugs me about stein and johnson votes (as compared to bernie ppl) is like both those candidates are fucking SHITHEADS and seem like they would have been disasters, whereas bernie was a longstanding senator, had a progressive but reasonable policy platform, understood how washington worked, experience, yadda yadda yadda

stein is like one annoying daycare mom who's always sending out group emails and whose kid has a made-up peanut allergy

johnson seemed like there was genuinely something wrong with him

i just didn't understand the "i supported bernie in the primary now i'm switching to stein", like they weren't comparable to me....like "oh kanye retired guess i'll listen to lil' dickey instead"

maybe everyone else howling about stein could move onto something new too? or is this only a one way standard

yes i think a. this is the fault of stein voters and b. this is the fault of ppl who didn't reach out to stein voters, are both pretty valueless counterfactuals

all that reaching out to #nevertrump republicans seemed to have been an abject failure. romney's voters en masse voted for trump

call them whatever you want. but calling them idiots and then expecting them to vote for your candidate is a pretty idiot move.

If you do anything at all in life based on what complete strangers on the internet call you, you may, in fact, be an idiot.

romney's voters en masse voted for trump

That takes me back to when McCain/Palin supporters thought that "PUMAs" (anti-Obama Hillary supporters) would vote with them.

stein is like one annoying daycare mom who's always sending out group emails and whose kid has a made-up peanut allergy

loves the Indigo Girls

can we close this thread? There are three live.