Shirley Collins. Classic. Dud is not an option here, I'm afraid.

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I don't love Old Johnny Buckle as much as the rest, but it's short and there's always one or two goofy songs like that on any SC recording. I appreciate that the whole record isn't super serious to the point of seeming dire or gloomy.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 November 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

so excited to see her at this: https://safeasmilkfestival.com/sam17

after that i think its just bill fay to tick off my list of 'people i will never see'

jamiesummerz, Friday, 25 November 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

I'm looking forward to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/mastertapes_26nov16

Tim, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

The programmes from the above are out:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f9zq

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088fg44

It was a real pleasure to see these recorded. I had a question accepted but they ran out of time before my question came round. The good news was that I got an absolute plum seat in the front row as a result AND I didn't have to embarrass myself by asking my dumb question.

Tim, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

The question was: "Where do you get your ideas from?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/10020-british-folk-icon-shirley-collins-on-the-music-of-her-life/


The Band: “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down”

Although this song by the Band was released in 1969, I hadn’t heard it then. But once I had, it became a lifelong favorite—it’s so powerful. This was well into my wilderness years and somehow this song and the Band gave me strength and comfort.

At this point I’d got this variety of jobs, from working in the bookshop at the British Museum to becoming public relations person at Cecil Sharp House, which I regretted within a week. I managed an Oxfam [charity] shop for three or four years, and then took a job at the job centre for the next five or six. And then, thank god, I got to be 60 and could retire and take my state pension.

Alan sent me a copy of the wonderful book he’d written, The Land Where the Blues Began, and I got one mention in it. He wrote, “Shirley Collins, the lovely young English singer who was along for the trip.” I won’t say “fuck,” but I was so angry! I thought, No, I’ve got to sort this out, this is disgraceful.

At the same time my mother said to me, “Would you like your letters from America back, Shirley?” She’d kept all the letters I’d written home, so I was able to start writing my own book. I did point out my role and that I deserved a bit more than “being along for the trip,” because it was really hard work and I think he did better with having me there. I had put a fairly harsh ending on the first edition of the book where I mention his quote and said, “We’ll see about that.” And then he died a couple of years later. For the second edition, I just couldn’t keep that line in. I had to make it a requiem about Alan. You can’t deny the man his absolute worth. I was just so cross that first time. It’s what blokes do, though—they just dismiss women’s roles in the work that’s done. I just couldn’t put up with it that time.

nomar, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 09:03 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

has anyone in London seen the movie? i wanna see it!!

also shirley collins otm
It’s what blokes do, though—they just dismiss women’s roles in the work that’s done. I just couldn’t put up with it that time.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

She was involved with Alan Lomax and Ashley Hutchings, which calls into question her taste in men tbh.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

would love to see that movie, hopefully it'll be accessible soon in some way!

i like this poster

https://media.vam.ac.uk/media/thira/collection_images/2006BC/2006BC7332_jpg_l.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

zip it Tom D! we all make mistakes

alan lomax was an artsy interesting sexist who flattered her and she was 19

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

love that poster
it looks a lot like the one i have right down to the huge illustrated shirley face surrounded by smaller illustrations of others

sorry for snapping at you Tom D :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

No worries but I didn't think you had!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

anyone got this late 70s Dolly / Shirley live album?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpGfQ0EUgWk

out of print / pricey on discogs

tylerw, Friday, 20 October 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

I DO!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

nm
i thought i had it but turns out i have just looked at that image a bunch because i think i have a file from that album on my computer :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

are some of the tunes from harking back on the within sound box set?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

yeah i think at least a couple tunes from that set are from harking back ...

tylerw, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

gah those Fledgling releases are so expensive!

that Harking Back disc was released on Current 93's Durtro label which explains why it's out of print and expensive, don't think any of that stuff has ever been repressed

sleeve, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

yeah would love to get it — haven't ever tracked down the whole thing.

tylerw, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I recently splurged on one of those early 7" EP reissues, it was like ten bucks

sleeve, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

For a recently digitized 1992 interview with Shirl, scroll down to April 1992 (vol 3 #2) -- http://terrascope.online/Archives/Archives.htm

Also it's a good time to listen to the Cherry Tree Carol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_EU1Tq9qEg

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 22 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2qFXIvxb-Q

^^^wow i had never heard about this album until i just decided to seek out other Shirley Collins Xmas deep cuts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holly_Bears_the_Crown

omar little, Friday, 22 December 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

finally heard a couple of pieces from that on the new "introduction to..." comp topic have put out which i'd picked up for the sweet primeroses tracks (also as i discovered featuring yt!) also <3 the d&s/isb poster up there^

no lime tangier, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

having a Lodestar type of morning
she always chooses interesting musicians to work with, it's never boring and always totally shirley <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

don't know if people saw the news of a new memoir:

We’ll soon be announcing details of Shirley Collins’ long-awaited memoir ‘All in the Downs: Reflections on Life, Landscape and Song’.
In the meantime please do see the wonderful 'The Ballad of Shirley Collins', which is on UK release this month. https://t.co/gSyVE0J5AT pic.twitter.com/aZvPH3GCJi

— Strange Attractor (@strangepress) January 5, 2018

faust apes (NickB), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

I did see it!!!

Cannot wait to read

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

yeah that'll be great ...
some info

‘The Ballad Of Shirley Collins’ film continues to screen across cinemas in the UK early next year and the film will be free-to stream on the Lush Player in the UK for 20 days only from January 20th 2018.

We will also shortly be announcing the official DVD release. This will come as a deluxe bookback that will feature a range of extras including deleted scenes, audio commentary, behind the scenes footage and an unreleased short film by the filmmakers along with CD of the soundtrack that will include bonus tracks.

Track list
Side A
1. “All I Ever Wanted”
2. Shirley Collins – Cavalry Hill
3. Ishman Williams & The Williams Singers – Got On My Travelling Shoes
4. “Do You Want Me To Start Again, Alan”
5. Texas Gladden – I Never Will Marry
6. Sid Hemphill and Lucius Smith – Come On Boys, Let’s Go To The Ball
7. Horton Barker – A Rich Irish Lady
8. Ian Kearey – The Poor Drowned Sailor
9. Sidney Hemphill Carter – Pharaoh
10. “I Used To Could Sing”
11. Outtake (London, 1959)

Side B
1. “There’s Never Been A Merry England”
2. Andy Hemsley and Hastings Jack In The Green – Seeds Of Love
3. N.J Brothers & The United Sacred Harp Musical Association – Cavalry
4. Lucius Smith – Make Lulu Behave Herself
5. Ruby Vass – Single Girl, Married Girl
6. “I Can’t Really Forget Them”
7. George Stoneman – Sally Anne
8. Michael J York & Ossian Brown – The Cloud House / Cyclobe – Sons Of Sons Of Light / George Collins - Dolly
9. Dolly Collins – Missa Humana (excerpt)
10. Shirley Collins – Wondrous Love

Pre-order link:
https://earthrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/the-ballad-of-shirley-collins

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

it's UK-only? :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

I think they mean the DVD is in PAL format, not that they won't let people in the US buy the DVD/CD set. Easy enough to rip a PAL DVD and watch it on a computer.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

i've heard they're working on getting it to the states sometime soon-ish.

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The documentary looks to be streaming on the Lush website: http://player.lush.com/channels/lush/tv/ballad-shirley-collins-film-tim-plester-rob-curry

Not a sentence I ever imagined typing.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

Lush like the beauty products store?

I preordered her book!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

This video is restricted from playing in your current geographic region
:(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

I am giving a short presentation about Shirley to my music appreciation class tonight. In addition to general excitement at talking about her music with a captive audience, I can't wait to show them the connection between the Lomax recordings and her recordings and listen to the two different versions of "Death and the Lady"

I feel like she is with me! <3

http://www.thebeesknees.com/wp-content/uploads/sc-3080-web.jpg

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Could have got free tickets for her appearance at the British Library but had to go back to Scotland for my sister's birthday ;_; Friggin' families, who needs 'em?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

¡¡¡¡¡happy birthday shirley!!!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

Christ, don't do that to me!

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

I'm just reading her memoir. Hadn't taken in what her Birthday is.
Book is really good as was America Over the Water.

Stevolende, Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

83 years old, HBSC

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

i am allowed to wish shirley a happy birthday because she is still with us! celebrate, don't have a heart attack :)

she is a living treasure. i have been saving her new book for a special time to focus on it. i did the same thing with america over the water and read it on a trip. perfect!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

her set in Birmingham a fortnight ago was my favourite musical performance of 2018 so far

Pardew to Megson: "you've stolen my New Orleans bounce" (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

i heard rumours there might be another album on the way btw

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

awweeeeesoooommmeeee

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

her set in Birmingham a fortnight ago was my favourite musical performance of 2018 so far
more details please!

who did she play with/who was in her band and what did they play
what songs did she sing
venue?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

setlist is here https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/shirley-collins/2018/the-crossing-birmingham-england-1bea15b0.html

there were I think five musicians onstage inc the Cyclobe guys who produced Lodestar? or poss just Ossian. also a morris dancer who gamboled across the stage intermittently

there was also a live interview type thing earlier in the day which was good (esp the part where she named Ewan McColl as an historical sex pest) and wrt Nick's post did mention upcoming recording sessions for a new album!

sorry not as detailed as you wanted but yeah it was was wonderful

Pardew to Megson: "you've stolen my New Orleans bounce" (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 July 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

that is more than i had before, thank you!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Yeah it was a Lodestar run through, but the ?mandolin? couldn't get the right tuning for Sur le Borde de l'Eau despite it having had the full intro from Shirley. Thousands Or More was a nice easy sing-along to fill the gap.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 7 July 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link


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