xp its u and tom d that know how to hurt us most ime
― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
That "scallops" in chip shops are not made of seafood.
I used to eat them when I was a kid but didn't really know what was in them, never had a seafood scallop until I was much older and my wife introduced me to them, asked me if I'd had them before I said yeah, battered from the chippy, they used to be really cheap, like 12p each, so I used to get them for snacks. She was confused by the cheapness because scallops are usually expensive. Not the same thing! I just found this out now. I'm 40.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:34 (seven years ago) link
I've never heard or seen scallops in a chip shop? What are those?
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link
Battered potato. Maybe they don't have them down south which would explain why I haven't eaten one in 20 years.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link
"Potato scallops originate from central England and are common in fish and chip shops there."
There you go then. I also originate from central England.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:24 (seven years ago) link
They have scallops in my (Scottish) chip shop that are definitely scallops (the expensive kind).
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link
(potato) scallops have different names regionally so ppl might have encountered them in a different guise. at home in cov a scallop batch was a personal favourite. when i was in lancashire the same thing was called a dab teacake.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link
Getcher fried challops here!
Though it sounds like a bit like rarebit/rabbit and truffles, where there's two or more levels of meaning that have conflated. This cheese thing is a Welsh rarebit, which someone turns into a bad ethnic joke about the Welsh being so poor they'll eat cheese and call it rabbit, so you start hearing "welsh rabbit."
Ditto someone comes up with the bad folk etymology that "asparagus" once was "sparrowgrass," except that in Greek "asparagos" means "vegetable shoot," etc. Somebody makes a chocolate candy shaped a bit like a truffle, calls it a "chocolate truffle," then after a while the modifier "chocolate" wears off and hey presto you have two totally different things both called truffles.
Somebody in a chip shop makes a scallop-sized or scallop-shaped fried potato, calls it a potato scallop, which gets shortened to scallop, then someone turns round and says ha ha, lolz English, trying to pass off a common potato as if it were fine seafood, etc.
― pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
I am also from central England and was incredibly confused about scallops until I was in my late 20s. I mean, I figured out that most people meant the seafood and the other thing was regional but I didn't know what the other thing actually *was*.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
Never heard of potato scallops. Don't think our chippies had anything like those. I would eat them.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
I think of scalloped potatoes as a casserole dish. I knew of that for many years before I learned about the seafood.
― how's life, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link
(although way the hell before age 40)
― how's life, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
xposts! Scalloped potatoes are a thing in the US and I never understood the nomenclature, not sure what relation (if any) there is to UK potato scallops:
Gratin (French pronunciation: [ɡʁatɛ̃]) is a widespread culinary technique in which an ingredient is topped with a browned crust, often using breadcrumbs, grated cheese, egg and/or butter.[1][2][3] Gratin originated in French cuisine and is usually prepared in a shallow dish of some kind. A gratin is baked or cooked under an overhead grill or broiler to form a golden crust on top and is traditionally served in its baking dish....Potatoes gratiné is one of the most common of gratins and is known by various names including "gratin potatoes" and "Gratin de pommes de terre". Slices of boiled potato are put in a buttered fireproof dish, sprinkled with cheese and browned in the oven or under the grill.[8] In North America, the dish is referred to variously as scalloped potatoes, potatoes au gratin, or au gratin potatoes. (Note that the term scalloped originally referred to a style of seafood dish rather than to one specifically based on the scallop.)[9] In French-speaking Canada, the dish is referred to as patates au gratin. Australians and New Zealanders refer to it as scalloped potatoes or potato bake.
...
Potatoes gratiné is one of the most common of gratins and is known by various names including "gratin potatoes" and "Gratin de pommes de terre". Slices of boiled potato are put in a buttered fireproof dish, sprinkled with cheese and browned in the oven or under the grill.[8] In North America, the dish is referred to variously as scalloped potatoes, potatoes au gratin, or au gratin potatoes. (Note that the term scalloped originally referred to a style of seafood dish rather than to one specifically based on the scallop.)[9] In French-speaking Canada, the dish is referred to as patates au gratin. Australians and New Zealanders refer to it as scalloped potatoes or potato bake.
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link
Challops.
What are *they* made of, you midlands people?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
Scalloped potatoes are called that because the layers of sliced potato end up looking scalloplike. That's different from the chip shop product.
Compare "hush puppies," which are not made from actual puppies (in my experience).
― pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
Pretty sure "Welsh rabbit" is the original name. It's like Bombay Duck or Birmingham Screwdriver; "rarebit" is a later affectation.
― mahb, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
Don't think that's the same thing. The thing I used to get from the chip shop was a round bit of batter a couple of inches diameter, I know what potato gratin is and it's not that.
It might seem unfeasible that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between battered potato and battered seafood, but it was over a decade later when I first ate seafood scallops and it seemed reasonable to assume there was a tiny bit of seafood in amongst all the batter in the mysterious scallops of my youth.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
Oops xpost to Old Lunch
Hush puppies used to be fried dough balls loaded with dog tranquilizer, iirc?
― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
Welsh rabbit is the original, mahb is right. Which reminds me that all of these falsely-named foodstuffs confused the fuck out of me. How am I supposed to know Bombay duck isn't duck?!?!?!
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
Bombay duck isn't duck?!?!?!
Well that's 2 things I'm shockingly old to have learned today.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link
I don't think I've ever eaten that though.
Mince pies seem pretty straightforward, right? Like, a steak and ale pie has steak and ale in it. So a mince pie has mince in it. WRONG. (tbf I learned this one when I was a kid and not when I was "shockingly old" but still - whyyyyy?)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link
I only recently learned that the E Street Band is named after a street called E Street. I always thought it was an abbreviation for East Street Band, bolstered by hearing live recordings in which Bruce says the name and I thought he was saying East not E.
― heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
news flash: Sweetbreads are not bread, and sweetmeats are not meat.
― pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
Sweet Sweetback's song is not baadaaaaaaass
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link
A mince pie did used to have mince in though (and still does in our house) because it uses raw mince rotted down to provide some of the sweetness in the mincemeat.
http://oakden.co.uk/mince-pies-1861-recipe/
― Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
I am told you can't buy Bombay Duck in the UK any more (certainly all our local takeaways stopped doing it) because of import health & safety laws or something.
Which was disappointing to my Dad, as was the time he, yes, bought "scallops" in a fish&chip shop, ordering several bags full as he couldn't believe how cheap they were. They're not a common thing round here but there must be at least one place in Wiltshire that did them 30+ years ago as I've heard the tale many times.
I'd always imagined they must be puffy and ridged like a scallop shell, but a quick image-google suggests they are p. much just discs of potato. Would still eat them.
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
yeah if the name does come from some supposed visually similarity that was a prodigious feat of imagination.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
I think I was as old as 18 when someone had to tell me that Pub Landlord wasn't a real guy. Embarrassing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
that my fellow Americans are not really that committed to good government and democracy
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nqIhP2z.jpg
- "I don't know why you keep calling them scallops. They're clearly potatoes."
- "Maybe you're right."
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link
apparently in american football you can substitute players pretty much nonstop??
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
as soon as one gets a brain injury, yes
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
the strokes had a fifth album
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 3 December 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
that only boy dogs lift a leg to piss, because girl dogs just squat
sorry, i never had a dog
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 December 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:23 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
p much a substitution every play
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 3 December 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
Girl dogs do lift a leg sometimes, depending what they want to piss on.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
I have a girl dog who lifts her leg to pee, although it looks more like that Karate Kid pose.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
Scallops is a contentious word down here too - theyre called scallops in NSW/QLD, and potato cakes in VIC.
Which always made me wonder, how to they differentiate potato scallops from actual ones, given those are also a thing in many chip shops (well, any where seafood's cheap and fresh anyway)
I love potato caaaakes
http://northeasthub.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/scallops.jpg
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
I just read that whenever you eat a fig, you're eating either a dead wasp or wasp larvae! I love figs and feel conflicted about eating them from now on.
― JacobSanders, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
^^ Debunked!
I've learned to stop worrying and love dates as much as I do, even though the occasional date I eat contains a (visible) small worm or larvae of some sort. Iranian dates are my fave, and I've seen it, but life's too short etc.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
hmm, chance of either eggs and larvae or decomposed wasp, yeah feel a lot better about figs after that debunking
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
the female fig produces an enzyme that digests this wasp completelyI never knew figs were so interesting!I was reading this http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/06/08/the-disturbing-truth-about-figs/
― JacobSanders, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
Scallops (chip shop potato ones, not seafood) are called fritters up here.
― ailsa, Monday, 5 December 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link
that Ghetto Superstar interpolates a Rogers/Parton smash
― niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link
armadillos carry leprosy
― clouds, Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link
well, duh. how do you think people get leprosy in the first place?
― pplains, Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
Leprosy always seemed like an unfair tradeoff for people who are clever enough to have figured out how to fuck an armadillo.
― My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
I was a teenager when I found out that Ku Klux Klan were not a cartoon or a band but something more serious. My first guess would have been a cartoon about chickens. Clue Clucks Clan: Chicken Detectives.
I seen 3 Women a few weeks ago and its shockingly late to learn that Shelley Duvall is really beautiful.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link